National Justice Party

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I'll "tell you what to do."
Stop working 7 days a week to live like shit.
Get diagnosed with an easy to fake mental illness. Get SSDI, housing etc.
I don't understand why you would live a lifestyle that sounds comparable to one of those monks beating themselves with a whip every day.

I work hard too, every day, but an example of the work I do is helping a 18 year old kid record a couple songs over the weekend and getting paid $450 by his dad.

I don't mean to be insulting but your lifestyle doesn't make sense to me.

I appreciate the constructive criticism, but this thread isn't about me.

I am not exceptionally talented or even above average talent in anything other than seeing the big picture. That is why I try to share it here. Due to not being exceptionally talented but being able to see the big picture I am doing the best I can to have enough money to quit working and have a family. If I was talented enough to make $450 recording a song, I would gladly do it. But I certainly do not have that kind of talent. Make sure to appreciate you have this gift and can use it for such uses.

But there are upsides to my life as well. Through great struggle comes great strength. It is the only way we grow stronger. I don't regret it at all, my frustration comes from the fact that obviously no on in DC, including the gutless coward Trump, gives a damn about us, our children, or our futures.
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
Having your own business, at this time, is askig a lot. I believe 30% of small businesses have declared bankruptcy from the start of 2020. I don't recommend it at all.

Working remotely is becoming more possible, but rest assured ZOG will continue to find a way to shut down those options as well. It buys you time, but that is all, it isn't a permanent solution.

The old days of RVF were when we thought if only we could get our ideas out in the open then we could save the country. And now we see that isn't going to be allowed. Trump took our message, won the biggest political upset in maybe the history of the world, and then threw it all in the trash. It proves things are going to get very bad and being blindly optimistic is no longer a viable outlook.

Nothing is a permanent solution. You can make all the right moves and still lose, it's called life. I used to be a decently skilled poker player and played as a side gig, I learned that lesson early.

But like a wise man said, do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

What I see with the doom and gloom posts is just blame and black and white thinking. Nobody gets anywhere thinking that way about circumstances, many of which are beyond our control.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Nothing is a permanent solution. You can make all the right moves and still lose, it's called life. I used to be a decently skilled poker player and played as a side gig, I learned that lesson early.

But like a wise man said, do what you can, with what you have, where you are.

What I see with the doom and gloom posts is just blame and black and white thinking. Nobody gets anywhere thinking that way about circumstances, many of which are beyond our control.

It isn't thinking about circumstances, it is knowing what is coming. I could see this decades ago, but I predicted we would at least be given some room for a while. I didn't think they would go as far as to allow a pandemic to set in and give us no help at all and at the same time publicly give billionaires trillions of dollars.

I'm actually being very optimistic in my posting compared to knowing what is on the horizon.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Just came in to see why this thread is still active..

And...

I wasn't shocked ... :boring:

It is active because there are two choices and many men here either have kids or want kids and they don't want their kids to live in utter chaos and violence.

#1) Have utter chaos and violence by choosing who is less worse, between GOP or Democrat globalist Epstein parties.

#2) Vote nationalism and this is the only nationalist party.

There is no 3rd option as much as anyone wants to try to excuse it into existence. Men far wiser than myself have wrote mountains of books and do podcasts daily about this situation.
 

AneroidOcean

Hummingbird
Gold Member
It is active because there are two choices and many men here either have kids or want kids and they don't want their kids to live in utter chaos and violence.

#1) Have utter chaos and violence by choosing who is less worse, between GOP or Democrat globalist Epstein parties.

#2) Vote nationalism and this is the only nationalist party.

There is no 3rd option as much as anyone wants to try to excuse it into existence. Men far wiser than myself have wrote mountains of books and do podcasts daily about this situation.

EDIT: You are not being honest with yourself or with us.

1. No, this thread is active due to you. By my rough count out of the 47 responses so far, 22 of them (nearly HALF) are from you.

2. Living like a monk for anyone average that works hard and changes jobs every 2-3 years to gain income and who invests that extra income (even conservatively) would mean you'd be sitting on a sizable nest egg letting you buy in cash all manner of property all over the country and easily provide for your family.

When people point this out, you blame anything but yourself/your actions. A significant amount of success comes not from having any particular talent, it's to be disciplined and consistent over a long enough period of time. You claims are of this exactly, yet you say you have nearly nothing compared to what you "should" have.

You claim you've foregone women, friendships, etc... in order to live like a monk for 20 years. A lot of us just don't buy it.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
EDIT: You are not being honest with yourself or with us.

1. No, this thread is active due to you. By my rough count out of the 47 responses so far, 22 of them (nearly HALF) are from you.

2. Living like a monk for anyone average that works hard and changes jobs every 2-3 years to gain income and who invests that extra income (even conservatively) would mean you'd be sitting on a sizable nest egg letting you buy in cash all manner of property all over the country and easily provide for your family.

When people point this out, you blame anything but yourself/your actions. A significant amount of success comes not from having any particular talent, it's to be disciplined and consistent over a long enough period of time. You claims are of this exactly, yet you say you have nearly nothing compared to what you "should" have.

You claim you've foregone women, friendships, etc... in order to live like a monk for 20 years. A lot of us just don't buy it.

1. True, this thread has piddled out. I posted Mike Enoch, the chairman of the NJP, accurately predicting the day for the election how the election would turn out and then how things would go after the election. He is very accurate.

2. A "sizeable" nest egg is a different amount to different people. I think $2 million is the starting point, but if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage then you may need closer to $5 million. I want enough to not ever have to work again, with kids. And that is A LOT of money and I am no where close. Healthcare alone for a wife and kids will run you close to $15,000 a year.

I don't know who doesn't buy my life experiences and I don't care if they buy them. If they have problems with it they can ask me. I hold no animosity towards them.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
1. True, this thread has piddled out. I posted Mike Enoch, the chairman of the NJP, accurately predicting the day for the election how the election would turn out and then how things would go after the election. He is very accurate.

2. A "sizeable" nest egg is a different amount to different people. I think $2 million is the starting point, but if Biden gets his $15 minimum wage then you may need closer to $5 million. I want enough to not ever have to work again, with kids. And that is A LOT of money and I am no where close. Healthcare alone for a wife and kids will run you close to $15,000 a year.

I don't know who doesn't buy my life experiences and I don't care if they buy them. If they have problems with it they can ask me. I hold no animosity towards them.
The number of men who've started a family only after saving millions of dollars is infinitesimally small. When you say that you need at least two million, maybe five in the bank to have kids it sounds like you just don't want to or are too scared and should just admit what everyone else sees.
 
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MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Ok than, please master give us some worthy opinions.

What should be done than if not new political options are not the alternative?

You know at what points I would agree with you??

If those political parties are controlled or if elections are a fraud and truth to be told, both are true for the USA and the west in general.

Germany was also controlled entirely in 1930s actually it was a total lab experiment country but that didn't stop the germans to find a way out and vote a new option.

Hope dies the last.

Constantly moving way, retreating and waiting for the 2nd arrival of Christ is not the solution IMO, at last on this earth.

The Benedict Option is a perfectly viable option. If you insist on being involved in worldly governance, then a party must be the expression of a movement with clearly-defined principles, goals, and strategies. Not abstractions and ideologies like “make America great again,” which sounds great but has no substance.

And in a country like ours, with a third-world political process and fake elections combined with Big Tech censorship of conservatives’ free speech, it is really just a pipe dream.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
The number of men who've started a family only after saving millions of dollars is infinitesimally small. When you say that you need at least two million, maybe five in the bank to have kids it sounds like you just don't want to or are too scared and should just admit what everyone else sees.

That is not true, but this isn't the thread for it. If you want more information you can feel free to PM me.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I would rather start another thread or PM about it and not take from this thread. And I don't know if it is something Roosh wants discussed on his forum, so I am not starting a thread about my "wild and crazy" ideas.

I only responded to you here because I have a ton of respect for you as a poster and believed you deserved an answer. I will not discuss it any more in this thread out of respect for the forum.

Thank you for being such a great member of this forum.
 

Philonous

Sparrow
Protestant
Thought I might be able to add something worthwhile to this thread.

Suffice to say, for a fellow such as myself—middle-aged single white guy living in Pennsylvania, still pretty-much laboring income bracket—the NJP is like a cool breeze blowing on a day full of stagnant heat.

“Let’s have a political party which discusses issues that have plagued whites for the past couple of centuries, and let’s have the people running the party be whites who are not in any way kissing-up to Jews.”

Boom. Feels like the most overdue thing in the world.

Too good to be true?

Well, it’s not a fed-run organization, nor is it crawling from end-to-end with feds. Nor is its political demonstration wing, “Patriot Front”, in any way fed-run or crawling with feds.

Even so, the NJP isn’t perfect. It’s not expressly Christian in its deportment. As a result, I’d expect its leaders to eventually make mistakes that could just as easily be avoided by a moment’s prayer and the guidance it brings.

Nonetheless, it captures the public’s attention. Captures their imagination—energizes them. You listen to the crowd bawdily chanting, “N-J-P!! N-J-P!!” and find yourself grinning. It’s natural. It seems what young men are supposed to do.

In contrast, look at what the US ZOG would have young men do—would have all whites do. Play apologist for pedophiles and pornographers. Make a secular saint out of “Fentanyl Floyd”. Apologize for our own race and its achievements. Take Pfizer vaccines and their boosters until we drop dead from premature heart failure. Live as best we can under a pearl-clutching “gynotocracy” wherein laughing a woman for being ugly or awkward counts for “assault”.

And finally, let’s quit making a false idol out of libertarianism, a tin god out of “capital gains”.

But does the NJP—and its sister organization, the protest-centered Patriot Front—do these make a tin god out of “pan-Europeanism”? Out of the European diaspora remaining as racially pure as possible in the North American continent?

Thing is, I really don’t believe in any “utopia” coming about through a white-ethnostate—nor do I believe in any David Lane-ish vision of a white super-state taking over the world. My vision of a better future is of Christ returning and people accepting a brotherhood under his name, his laws, his spirit. There are no hatreds in that future, no forces of evil still permitted to cohabitate with man in this dimension.

Yet would we not still have nations? And would they not still be known by their dominant majority, or whatever ethnic group brought them into being as nations?

We would still have such, and they would still be known as such, but as far as making these things totally racially uniform with a DNA purity test—no, I do not foresee that happening.

More so, the 2 groups who are simply making themselves increasingly difficult to tolerate in American society are the Jews and the blacks. And in both instances you’re talking about groups who themselves are demanding special privileges to the exclusion of all others, and even at the expense of all others. You’re talking about two ethnicities that presently seem utterly hell-bent in having themselves worshipped as sacred cows, as prima-donnas—thin-skinned narcissists who are themselves unwilling to meet halfway with others.

That, far more than any problem with things not being sufficiently “white exclusive”, seems to be the problem.

Interestingly enough, several points of the NJP platform address that problem without promoting “white exclusivity”.

Point #1: “The United States of America will be declared an outpost of Western civilization and a state dedicated to its European-heritage population and their posterity. It will be the policy of the state to set immigration and natal policy that will ensure a permanent European majority. The rights of historic minority populations will be respected.”

Point #2: “We demand the extension of the 1964 Civil Rights act to provide equal protections and privileges to the White majority, or the act must be repealed.”

Point #4: “We support a two percent ceiling on Jewish employment in vital institutions so that they better represent the ethnic and regional population balance of the country.”

Point #25: “In order to put an end to racial conflict and hate, all people will be entitled to be policed, educated, and judged by individuals of their own race. No longer will any race be exploited for the benefit of another in America.”

In these regards, the NJP is actually a bit more racially egalitarian than Patriot Front, as the latter really doesn’t seem to have any room for non-whites whatsoever—at least not in its online manifesto.

In the meantime we still live under the US ZOG—and it really is like trying to live under the Eye of Sauron. Just an unbelievably vile and treacherous sort of government.

And so whether the NJP can be trusted to hold its leadership to its own 25 noble tenants—this almost feels like questioning whether/not all the stitching is intact on the life preserver you’ve been thrown.

And like I said—it captures the public’s imagination. So many other things I could write on this forum capture next to nobody’s imagination—I’ll get a response once in 5 months.

What people are missing is any civil metaphor for the righteous “rod of iron” by which the returning Christ rules the nations. And there is nothing I can philosophize here that’s going to compare to an image of malevolent billionaire Bill Gates being put on trial, found guilty of homicidal practices against the citizenry, and immediately executed. Or compare to seeing a nut-job like “Dr. Rachel Levine” given an indefinite sentence in a psychiatric lockup ward—or a grotesquely unpatriotic legislator like AOC permanently banned from the country.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Mike Peinovich gets interviewed on radio by James Edwards. This is pretty big, I am surprised they were able to get away with Peinovich being on the open air. But Peinovich also toned down his rhetoric a lot in the interview.

Two big take points

#1) I agree with Mike. After Trump losing and getting out of the way, the movement has not only grown by leaps and bounds, everyone can now start to feel it in their bones. Both supporters and detractors, and the number of "in the middle" people are disappearing every day, being forced to make a choice.

#2) The NJP guys held a protest in Fargo, North Dakota to support the family of Jupiter Paulsen. Jupiter's family welcomed them and he said they plan to do this on the anniversary and grow this for a rallying cry. Simply put, how can you stand against it, unless you support the 20 minute torture-murder of a 14 year old girl simply because she is white.

James Edwards interviews Mike Peinovich
 

JoeChill

Kingfisher
Protestant
Gold Member
Mike Peinovich gets interviewed on radio by James Edwards. This is pretty big, I am surprised they were able to get away with Peinovich being on the open air. But Peinovich also toned down his rhetoric a lot in the interview.

Two big take points

#1) I agree with Mike. After Trump losing and getting out of the way, the movement has not only grown by leaps and bounds, everyone can now start to feel it in their bones. Both supporters and detractors, and the number of "in the middle" people are disappearing every day, being forced to make a choice.

#2) The NJP guys held a protest in Fargo, North Dakota to support the family of Jupiter Paulsen. Jupiter's family welcomed them and he said they plan to do this on the anniversary and grow this for a rallying cry. Simply put, how can you stand against it, unless you support the 20 minute torture-murder of a 14 year old girl simply because she is white.

James Edwards interviews Mike Peinovich
Here's what I don't understand about TRS and the NJP. The American Freedom Party has existed since 2009 and includes big names like Kevin MacDonald and L.A. lawyer William Daniel Johnson. Why did TRS decide to create an entirely new political party dedicated to White American interests instead of helping the American Freedom Party?
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Here's what I don't understand about TRS and the NJP. The American Freedom Party has existed since 2009 and includes big names like Kevin MacDonald and L.A. lawyer William Daniel Johnson. Why did TRS decide to create an entirely new political party dedicated to White American interests instead of helping the American Freedom Party?
I can't answer that, I am not associated with TRS or NJP. I just listen to a few of their podcasts. They have had Kevin MacDonald on their shows in the past, so there is no bad blood there that I know of.

I have never heard of the "American Freedom Party". Does it still exist? What do they do? Kevin MacDonald is 77/78, so is he still active at all?

My guess is the NJP guys took the work of Kevin MacDonald and other great men like him and they built upon it. After they had what they felt the needed they started their own thing that they could run the way they want. Their purpose is social activism, any where from good optics protests, like Fargo and Waukesha, and giving political speeches at hidden locations in front of a loyal base. They have no current plans to run any candidates due to the nature of the beast.
 
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