National Justice Party

JoeChill

Kingfisher
Protestant
Gold Member
I can't answer that, I am not associated with TRS or NJP. I just listen to a few of their podcasts. They have had Kevin MacDonald on their shows in the past, so there is no bad blood there that I know of.

I have never heard of the "American Freedom Party". Does it still exist? What do they do? Kevin MacDonald is 77/78, so is he still active at all?

My guess is the NJP guys took the work of Kevin MacDonald and other great men like him and they built upon it. After they had what they felt the needed they started their own thing that they could run the way they want. Their purpose is social activism, any where from good optics protests, like Fargo and Waukesha, and giving political speeches at hidden locations in front of a loyal base. They have no current plans to run any candidates due to the nature of the beast.
That's unfortunate. I was hoping that you could shed some light on the matter, given that you're a big TRS supporter. I had the same question for Heimbach's TWP when it arose. It just seems like it would make more sense for you guys to pool your limited resources. I don't know much about the American Freedom Party other than it's been around since 2009 and still exists. Maybe you could ask some of the guys on the Bang forum?

 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
That's unfortunate. I was hoping that you could shed some light on the matter, given that you're a big TRS supporter. I had the same question for Heimbach's TWP when it arose. It just seems like it would make more sense for you guys to pool your limited resources. I don't know much about the American Freedom Party other than it's been around since 2009 and still exists. Maybe you could ask some of the guys on the Bang forum?

I'm not a subscriber/paid listener, so I can't access the forum. It is a good question, but it would take someone who is a paid subscriber or with a lot more insight than me to answer that question.

My guess is that is isn't bad blood, it is just them starting their own thing and being fully in control of it top to bottom.
 

fokm

Kingfisher
Protestant
Gold Member
I can't answer that, I am not associated with TRS or NJP.
I am a subscriber but I don't think the question is worth asking to them.

When you start something brand new, you get to define it. By joining with something else, you don't know who really owns what you're going into, or if the other party even wants your involvement.

It seems like the NJP founders have known each other for quite a while, and they thus know each other's vulnerabilities, political and personal.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I forgot to come back and include the video highlight of the Ethan protest in Akron. The best part is Mike Peinovich demanding that the Police Chief come out and join them and kneel to them, just like he kneeled to BLM. Proving the police support Black American political activities but not White American political activities.

 

Max Roscoe

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Just go somewhere and live quietly is what I mean. Not start a new country per se.
This was the advice I took from Harry Browne's How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World. I believe Roosh read and reviewed it years ago. It's been even longer since I read it, (and I was much more open to libertarian ideas back then) but the bottom line is don't try to join conflicts; in fact avoid them. Live your life how you want to, and if that involves breaking their rules, then know what the consequences are in advance, understand how they enforce those rules, and try to avoid that. Live your own life and don't worry about redpilling others.

Of course, libertarianism is mostly dysfunctional for an entire society, but as personal advice, I found that rather wise.

That said, I wish the NJP guys luck and respect them. Many smart, brave, good guys in there. But there is no political solution in America. Maybe they will be in a good position to do something in post-America though.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
This was the advice I took from Harry Browne's How I Found Freedom In An Unfree World. I believe Roosh read and reviewed it years ago. It's been even longer since I read it, (and I was much more open to libertarian ideas back then) but the bottom line is don't try to join conflicts; in fact avoid them. Live your life how you want to, and if that involves breaking their rules, then know what the consequences are in advance, understand how they enforce those rules, and try to avoid that. Live your own life and don't worry about redpilling others.

Of course, libertarianism is mostly dysfunctional for an entire society, but as personal advice, I found that rather wise.

That said, I wish the NJP guys luck and respect them. Many smart, brave, good guys in there. But there is no political solution in America. Maybe they will be in a good position to do something in post-America though.

Unfortunately, as someone who is from the rural Midwest, you will not be left alone. You can't escape this mess any longer. Even the nice suburbs in the Midwest are growing more violent. The globalists are importing violent 3rd world people and placing them in North Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, any other remote area you can think of, or any area "too white". Which is why NJP was in Fargo, ND a few weeks ago, protesting about a "refugee" who beat a 14 year old girl to death, in a parking lot, over a 20 minute period and is likely to be let go due to "mental health".

I'm not suggesting anyone get involved in anything right now. If you do, you risk losing your job, becoming unemployable, and potentially getting in legal trouble. At the same time, the belief we can move to small towns and go to church and make it another 40 years and our kids another 80 years, and escape the trouble is not reasonable either.

From what I can gather of the NJP is they are a political group in name only. I don't think they plan on running any candidates due to all the legal red tape put in place. Instead they are a group of people who can help each other out through these tough times. And then after things collapse they will have organization already in place to make some real moves. Likely carve out a white ethnostate within the USA borders if the US govt. collapses. They know they cannot do anything within this political regime but at the same time they can organize like-minded men and tell the rest of the people "hey, we tried to stop the collapse".

My advice, is to do what you can to be prepared. We must be eating right, we must be training every day, we must be as strong as possible physically and mentally. We must be saving every penny and putting it to good use. And we must not fool ourselves into thinking we can continue to run from this for another 40 years. Maybe you could run from it for another 40 years in Russia, but I wouldn't want to risk being a US citizen in Russia right now. If you can afford to keep making good money and move to a rural area, it might buy you some more time and it might not, but it will not buy your kids another 80 years.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Here's what I don't understand about TRS and the NJP. The American Freedom Party has existed since 2009 and includes big names like Kevin MacDonald and L.A. lawyer William Daniel Johnson. Why did TRS decide to create an entirely new political party dedicated to White American interests instead of helping the American Freedom Party?
Kevin MacDonald is a guest on today's "The Daily Shoah" with Mike Peinovich. Obviously, there are no hard feelings between the groups.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I don’t know where the AF and MAGAPEDES are at in this but the NJP went back to Akron this weekend to protest Ethan’s killers getting away with the murder. Great entertainment seeing Mike Peinovich roast some cat lady.

 

Max Roscoe

Hummingbird
Orthodox Inquirer
Libtard>> I don't feel safe around so many men.
> Why did you just assume my gender? I don't feel safe now.

Libtard>>You just came out of nowhere and started threatening me
> No, I came from over there where I'm protesting, and you've been filming me all afternoon.

Libtard>>I'm here trying to cover this and if you don't want me to cover it....
>No, we WANT you to cover it.
>>woman walks away :laughter:

That's some pretty great trolling.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Libtard>> I don't feel safe around so many men.
> Why did you just assume my gender? I don't feel safe now.

Libtard>>You just came out of nowhere and started threatening me
> No, I came from over there where I'm protesting, and you've been filming me all afternoon.

Libtard>>I'm here trying to cover this and if you don't want me to cover it....
>No, we WANT you to cover it.
>>woman walks away :laughter:

That's some pretty great trolling.
The NJP group is by far the best when it comes to talking points/debate/political ideas. That is why no one has them on as guests and they don't really have to go on any other shows due to their growing popularity.

But among their group, Peinovich is still on yet another level. I could watch him trolling anyone, on either side, all day long, and getting them to argue against themselves. It is hilarious when the libtards think this is Proud Boys or Trump supporters and then find out that they bite off more than they can chew.

He had a debate there with one libtard about banning books, her thinking they were Trump supporters and wanted to ban Critical Race Theory. He burned her on that one too and then got her to admit she would ban books if they went against her beliefs. He talked about it this week and said the obvious truth: "these libtards have serious mental problems, you can't win them over, you can only poke holes in their argument for others to copy".
 

paternos

Pelican
Catholic
I don't trust this TRS/NJP/Patriot Front for one bit.

Seems like a honeypot to me. Listened to a podcast and it gives me creepy vibes.

Grown up men shouting n..... all the time. Either it's highly infiltrated, or it's a governmental set-up, or it's controlled opposition.
It's like I'm watching a jewish hollywood fantasy movie on how the "right wing" would look.


Which Blackpilled called the most Jewish movie ever:


Or I am wrong, but I wouldn't want to associate in any way.
 
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It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I don't trust this TRS/NJP/Patriot Front for one bit.

Seems like a honeypot to me. Listened to a podcast and it gives me creepy vibes.

Grown up men shouting n..... all the time. Either it's highly infiltrated, or it's a governmental set-up, or it's controlled opposition.
It's like I'm watching a jewish hollywood fantasy movie on how the "right wing" would look.


Which Blackpilled called the most Jewish movie ever:


Or I am wrong, but I wouldn't want to associate in any way.

You have three choices...

1) Support the GOP/Trump and continue down this path.

2) Do nothing.

3) Support the NJP/Patriot Front/TRS.

I choose to do nothing, because I am old, have no children, and have no reason to take risk trying to save a country that choose to destroy itself. If I get to a financial position where I feel I am able to have children, I will likely move to Europe.

But if you are young, have children, or simply want to try to save the USA, these are your choices. There is no 4th choice. Choice #1 is an obvious a waste a time. Choice #2 will save yourself, keep you out of trouble, but let's be honest with what you are choosing to do. I am very honest about it. I have no desire to risk so much for a country that offers so little. Or choice #3. But if you choose #2 and then choose to call the only people getting anything done "feds" then you might as well vote Democrat and support the left, because you are doing their job for them but from a much more destructive position.

I don't like them throwing around the N-word, I think it wreaks of low class and is very disheartening to people who are not white nationalists but might strongly support their cause/their simple use of logic. But there is no one else getting anything done. The school board thing is nice, but Blackrock will either find a way around this or those new board members will find out really quick how "powerful" they really are.
 

paternos

Pelican
Catholic
You have three choices...

1) Support the GOP/Trump and continue down this path.

2) Do nothing.

3) Support the NJP/Patriot Front/TRS.

I choose to do nothing, because I am old, have no children, and have no reason to take risk trying to save a country that choose to destroy itself. If I get to a financial position where I feel I am able to have children, I will likely move to Europe.

But if you are young, have children, or simply want to try to save the USA, these are your choices. There is no 4th choice. Choice #1 is an obvious a waste a time. Choice #2 will save yourself, keep you out of trouble, but let's be honest with what you are choosing to do. I am very honest about it. I have no desire to risk so much for a country that offers so little. Or choice #3. But if you choose #2 and then choose to call the only people getting anything done "feds" then you might as well vote Democrat and support the left, because you are doing their job for them but from a much more destructive position.

I don't like them throwing around the N-word, I think it wreaks of low class and is very disheartening to people who are not white nationalists but might strongly support their cause/their simple use of logic. But there is no one else getting anything done. The school board thing is nice, but Blackrock will either find a way around this or those new board members will find out really quick how "powerful" they really are.
I think we millions of choices.
  • Most important choice is: Do we choose to follow Christ?
  • And do we choose to strive for truth and find the courage to speak the truth?
  • Are we able to discern with the help of God between false priests and real priests?
I don't see how joining these type of cringy demonstrations like this based on our "whiteness" and then be picked up by the police or having "Hitler style" party gatherings with agressive speeches is helping anyone to go to heaven.
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In these groups the severe lack of Christ, the overly focusing on "white", "blackness" or "muslims" is in my opinion playing in the hand of the people that rule our country. The criminals are those who shaped this internationalist police state, this debt economy benefitting the jewish lenders, those billionaires supporting the democratic and republican parties. Divide and rule.

And those rulers are not black people. Black people have been receiving 30 years of propaganda by the Jewish music producers that this below is success. Fathers leaving their kids. Drug addiction. Fornication. And now the opposite hiring underqualified people based on their skin color in Tech firms. (which will only grow the desperation) Marketing has effect.

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While below black people are singing together in a Church choir in Uganda.



Everyone is being abused under the current rule. These people from NJP/Patriot Front/TRS I think will only take you further from the truth. Further away from Christ.

And that's just basing on their content. Deep down I feel something is also very off.
 
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Gazza

Woodpecker
Other Christian
People who still believe “parties and elections” can solve our problems are universally not worth listening to.
I had the following message sent to me this evening after Dan Andrews and the Labour Party were re-elected for a third term here in Victoria Australia (famously known for being THE most locked down city in the world)……………

“Those who rule us are mostly ignored by me now. I don't serve or recognise their evil, I deal with the system as needed and nothing more. They are the enemy. We can still take supplies from our enemy's it is a common war strategy. We are in a war. We are the underground resistance”.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
I had the following message sent to me this evening after Dan Andrews and the Labour Party were re-elected for a third term here in Victoria Australia (famously known for being THE most locked down city in the world)……………

“Those who rule us are mostly ignored by me now. I don't serve or recognise their evil, I deal with the system as needed and nothing more. They are the enemy. We can still take supplies from our enemy's it is a common war strategy. We are in a war. We are the underground resistance”.

Huh? Who sent you that message? Is that a text? A vision? What are you talking about?
 

fokm

Kingfisher
Protestant
Gold Member
The NJP does not use the n-word in any official party business.

TRS, though, does.

Above @paternos shows this image as an example of bad optics:

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I strongly disagree.

NJP have been the *only* protests focused around how White people are getting screwed over by our justice system. They really made the difference in the Paulsen case in Nebraska.

If these were truly bad optics, the media would have covered them. When NJP protested in Ohio a few months ago on behalf of Ethan Liming, they got one reporter to come out and talk to them. The local media ignored them. Then a few days later, 5-10 BLM supporters did a protest and were covered by the entire local media establishment.

If @paternos was correct that these images were cringe, the media would be all over them and they'd be very quick to point out and ridicule NJP's message. But they don't do that, because that brings the wrong kind of attention.

In any case, I strongly agree that TRS message boards and the like, where users build N-towers is not going to attract people who are on the fence. Building N-towers is not a political message and there are plenty of people who don't 'get' the message.

At the same time....I had a liberal relative over for Thanksgiving and asked her point blank, if she was killed by a black and I called that black the n-word, would she be mad at me for that, and she said yes. The fact that so many people think these examples of 'uncivil' behavior are equal is alarming, and one way you know you probably don't have feds is if they are comfortable using the language that many normal people use, vulgar as the more elite may find it to be.
 
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