Happy to, but I'm a bit busy right now. Feel free to DM me or, if I can later on, I'll read through the replies here and post something.
My wife is half Ukrainian, just got her over here to comment on this thread. She says Roosh's post is spot on. She says Ukrainian women born and raised here with just the ethnic background are a safer bet than those straight from Ukraine.Is she a devout Orthodox Christian? If not then she is a hyper-materialist who is going to be way more advanced than you when it comes to game (even if you have studied game), and you will be "happy" with her as long as she sees a material benefit, but if she believes an additional benefit can be found elsewhere, she will end things in a ruthless matter. American men who are used to American women with bad attitudes easily fall under the spell of even sub-par Slavic women.
Yes, the truth is that most have neither the time nor the money to walk away from their home country until they realize how poor it is (the women are).The problem is that many dudes only start realizing this when they are in their late 30s or early 40s and that's when you get these painful, frictious, overtly transactional relationships
Ahh yes, the catch-22 of finding a needle in a haystack of the orthodox world, then, since percentages are likely low across the pond regarding devoted believers. And if faithful women, sadly less likely to be interested in foreigners due to their being traditional - but I'm hope I'm wrong about that.Is she a devout Orthodox Christian? If not then she is a hyper-materialist who is going to be way more advanced than you when it comes to game (even if you have studied game), and you will be "happy" with her as long as she sees a material benefit, but if she believes an additional benefit can be found elsewhere, she will end things in a ruthless matter. American men who are used to American women with bad attitudes easily fall under the spell of even sub-par Slavic women.
Have you been traveling throughout EE for a while? I'm curious if a faithful orthodox woman would actually be open to someone from a different country, as I noted above in my catch 22 example.I've dated two, plus a Serb lady. The first Ukrainian was a gold-digger. Very attractive, ultra feminine, had excellent girl-game. It was old RVF days and I was lucky to read that she was just monkey-branching from one good deal to the next better deal. I ran into her recently and she is still looking for another trade up. Dodged an expensive bullet on that one.
The Serbian woman was an excellent lady, willing to commit to me, low/manageable hypergamy behavior. Closer age gap than the first woman. She was a good catch that I let go, maybe too easily. Again, very feminine. Literally said "I will cook healthy meals for us and keep a clean house always, if that is what you want." I believe she was sincere.
The second Ukrainian is, I believe, a keeper. Very feminine, traditional, and much lower hypergamy tendency. The age gap between us is closer than on either other woman. She's really a catch; practicing Orthodox, proud of appearance but not excessive, thrifty, considerate, and has reasonable expectations.
Younger FOB women are high threat/high reward. They know their advantages over US women, and how to play them. You must control your emotions and see your relation for what it is, not what you want it to be. Do not idealize/pedestalize them, but appreciate the good they bring and be willing to understand some of them are ice cold exploiters.
Generally speaking, age gap isn't as big a deal with these women. They don't mind dating someone 15+ years older. Instead, YOU better understand that the bigger the age gap, the more likely this relation is about resource extraction. Don't be a 45 year old 6, dating a 27 year old 8 and think you have upper hand. You likely don't. The age gap:wealth ratio is meaningful. The "score" gap is also meaningful.
My EO church has a surprising number of single women in the 30-50 range. Old guys will warn you about crypto-bimbos reforming themselves overnight, but it should be worth considering.
Only over the last 4 years, primarily 2 long trips. I'm not a big world traveler, but I'm not afraid of a new location either. Of the three Slavs I've dated, 2 had already immigrated to the US. The third I met in UA after some online connections. I have the same concern and know there are no guarantees, but I've time tested this one for several years and have a good hunch she's a fit. I am OCA and see devout people of all kinds at liturgy weekly, including such marriages. Personally, I see Orthodox Christianity as properly delivered Christianity to all people. It was Orthodox Priests that codified Aleutian Alaskan language. Orthodox Priests created Church Slavonic to witness to the Slavs. I am aware of some of the contradictions between the EO branches, but I am resource limited where I live, so I go where I can. My Priest is devout and very traditional. My girlfriend was baptized in a secret baptism, in the woods, as a child, during USSR times. She's younger than me by 6 years, so I'm probably pretty old compared to many RVF brothers. She's into the faith, and she doesn't see my foreign nature as a hard obstacle. Actually, with all the political BLM turmoil, she's been trying to persuade me to move to UA!Have you been traveling throughout EE for a while? I was wondering in the other thread how likely it would be to find a faithful orthodox woman who would actually not shun someone from a different country.