Need help examining behavior of Russian/Ukrainian women and their potential as a long-term partner

I am from eastern Europe. A lot of Russian women in my city.
I suggest- for LTR go only for highly educated, preferably young, if it's possible- religious, but what's important - more on artistic/esoteric/ scientific / hipsterish/ hippie side.
Other way you will deal with something very materialistic, too simple, soulless, dumb. Let's say - a thug from the projects, in womens clothes. Booring and not pleasant to deal with.
But at the end of the day- it's a matter of personal preference.
 

Bitter End

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Are there noticeable personality differences between Russian/Ukrainian women vs. other eastern european nationalities? (Romanian, Baltic Countries, Balkans, etc.)
The Balkans have a much nicer climate overall. The people can be very friendly in their social circle and to locals that make an effort. The women are "easy" when they perceive you as a catch and are not as cold blooded as the Russians, who could be thinking a lot of other things in the back of their mind. Most of the Balkan women want to marry at some point, the smaller the town the more normal that is.

As a generalization, life in the Balkans is often much sweeter than those remote Russian and Ukranian villages. As a result, the women are not desperate for a foreigner or general wealth, it is often a source of skepticism even. (Meaning the traditional types, not the club rats).

The going joke here is that a Russian woman would be kissing your boots until you marry and then completely let herself go once the job is done. I know a few exceptions, of course. But the Balkan women appear more romantic, the Russian more calculated and pragmatic. Heard multiple times that Russian women are raised to see men as animals that can be stimulated in a certain way.

Don't forget Greece too, although the language can be tough.
 

Sinabelus

Sparrow
I have always liked Russia as a whole, its culture, its way of telling things without saying them that you can even see in movies. This is very visible in movies like Stalker. The coldness, the roughness, everything appeals to me for some reason. I actually learned Russian on my own and can speak it a bit, although I would need to finish learning it.

The more time goes, the more I'm considering actually going there. But where should I go exactly in Russia, and besides how do I find a good woman, considering how much more skilled Russian girls are at manipulating you?
Also it would mean I'd have to convert to Russian orthodoxy, but I consider the Catholic Church to be "true" one so…

Poland is also an option, and it's catholic, but I'm a sede so it's not that much better anyway. And I've heard they're getting more and more on the rainbow train so idk.
 

Pointy Elbows

Woodpecker
Orthodox
I am from eastern Europe. A lot of Russian women in my city.
I suggest- for LTR go only for highly educated, preferably young, if it's possible- religious, but what's important - more on artistic/esoteric/ scientific / hipsterish/ hippie side.
Other way you will deal with something very materialistic, too simple, soulless, dumb. Let's say - a thug from the projects, in womens clothes. Booring and not pleasant to deal with.
But at the end of the day- it's a matter of personal preference.

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vstk

Pigeon
Remember you also have:

Moldova
Romania
Serbia
Poland
Georgia
Russia
Croatia
Estonia
Armenia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Hungary
etc etc etc

All worth exploring for the religious trad wives we seek
Estonia has to be removed from this list. I've lived there. Better odds of finding a traditional wife in France than in Tallinn.
 

fortyfive

Woodpecker
Being in Estonia many times, although not for wife hunting. Like very much that country. Cheaper version of Finland. Many Russians live here. Estonians seem to be more distant, aloof than Slavic nations, much more similar to Scandinavians. Definitely a big contrast to Balkan in temperament.

The country is flat, but a lot of beautiful forests and low human density places for camping, especially on islands in the Baltic sea. I felt very safe there always, cheap good food, fish, easy-going people. Simply relaxed country, but for someone looking for a rush, maybe a little boring.
But I enjoyed being there every time, making fire, and sitting on the beach during summer white nights.
 
I married a Ukrainian woman. We have been married 14 years and together 16 years. We have two children. She has been a great wife. She is a fabulous mother. She is intelligent, beautiful, has aged well, and is cultured. Just go there to meet a woman. Avoid the ex-pat hang outs. Go to clubs near the Opera House, especially during the day in Kiev. Chevchenko University is nearby and there are a lot of students there. Just chat one up in English. Most will take advantage of the opportunity to speak with a native. Be respectful, a gentleman, and dress well and you will have an embarrassment of choices. Brush up on Ukrainian and Russian history and culture before you go, learn some Russian.
How did you meet? I have some free time this summer and I would like to go EE, not sure where,but I have a thing for slavic women. Someone who has been there already could tell me how is the situation? Do they speak English in urban area? Where do you approach ? clubs, agency ecc..
 

bucky

Ostrich
Please go to YouTube and listen to the Mel Gibson leaked phone calls.

That's what being in a relationship with a Russian will do to you.
Heh. I'm a survivor of a marriage to a Russian girl. This is exactly what I thought when those phone calls were leaked.

There used to be a great website called "Russian Marriage Scams" run by a Canadian guy who'd lived in Russia for years. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to exist anymore, but I remember him saying that if you're 10% a decent person, you have no chance against these girls. He also said that if you want a foreign wife, Russian/Ukrainian is the worst choice, Asian better, Latina best. I'm happily married to a good Latina now, so I agree.
 

griffinmill

Kingfisher
Heh. I'm a survivor of a marriage to a Russian girl. This is exactly what I thought when those phone calls were leaked.

There used to be a great website called "Russian Marriage Scams" run by a Canadian guy who'd lived in Russia for years. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to exist anymore, but I remember him saying that if you're 10% a decent person, you have no chance against these girls. He also said that if you want a foreign wife, Russian/Ukrainian is the worst choice, Asian better, Latina best. I'm happily married to a good Latina now, so I agree.

I survived three months with a Russian girl.

Marrying her would have been the absolute worst choice of my life. I nearly got her pregnant too. That would have been a nightmare. She drove me round the bend. Luckily I have no problems dropping a girl when I see red flags, but she made things difficult that I can tell you.

If you are a decent guy they will figuratively rape you because they have zero respect for nice guys.

One of my best friends (in the UK) married a Ukrainian girl he met off an app. I'm very interested to see how that goes. They've been married for around three years so far.
 
On my personal observation women from Eastern Europe do not make good wives. (With Russian and Ukrainian women being probably far the worst of them all.)
I personally can't why some posters here put Eastern European women on pedestal...but each to their own, I suppose.
Peace.
 

bucky

Ostrich
On my personal observation women from Eastern Europe do not make good wives. (With Russian and Ukrainian women being probably far the worst of them all.)
I personally can't why some posters here put Eastern European women on pedestal...but each to their own, I suppose.
Peace.
Most of them have not actually married the girl or girls they put on a pedestal.

The Canadian with the anti-Russian marriage website I mentioned above did concede that if you manage to find a good Russian or Ukrainian wife, you'll probably be very happy. I think this is true, but I'd guess it's no more than 10% who are good wife material, probably less. Given the typical eastern Slavic woman's talents at manipulation and ability to play the long game, combined with her doll like beauty, it's almost impossible to tell if you've got a good one until you sign on the dotted line and by then it's probably too late. This is even more true for most guys who aren't "red pilled" and don't understand the culture (me when I married my little doll, for example).
 
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