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<blockquote data-quote="PixelFree" data-source="post: 1481093" data-attributes="member: 13577"><p>Awesome thread. Also a question on my mind.</p><p></p><p>My experience to share:</p><p></p><p>I was engaged to a 15 years my junior Russian woman. She was from a wealthy background (e.g. richer than me - wasn't in it for my money), and was a real keeper. We met and lived in Australia. In the end I found her too quiet/shy/boring (she missed home too much) but extremely feminine, pleasant and lovely (stupid me, I know).</p><p></p><p>I know of one Ukrainian woman married to an Aussie guy living in Australia. She was a real naive small town/village type, good looking, prob an 8 locally based on looks alone. There is a big SMV discrepency here, he's an ugly pimply nerd loser who works for his parents and she's software developer out earning him as well. I fully suspect they met on some kind of marriage agency tour. They have two kids together and she constantly cheats on him with higher value guys. He knows about it but can't do anything. Sounds like hell for him.</p><p></p><p>I know of a second Ukrainian-Aussie marriage. The girl is probably an 7.5-8 locally (based on looks alone, which really all you need to do here in Australia is not be fat). Never met the guy. They had split up after having a kid together. So she's a 28yo single mum with a 6 month old baby. Sounds horrible also. Not sure who left who.</p><p></p><p>I know of another example same as above but with a Russian woman. She tried to date my friend whilst (not visibily) pregnant with some other guys child. Wtf? I have no idea why a woman would have baby by herself like this esp after she has nuked her SMV down 50%.</p><p></p><p>I have dated 2 other Russian women met here in Australia. Both of them seemed like good catches, caring and loyal (non-gold digger) women. They were both 26/27 and I was early 40. Both only had 1-2 boyfriends previously (estimated). One was very active on social media (Insta) with all kinds of posy pictures they all do but got married and instantly put it onto private like a good girl.</p><p></p><p>I dated another Russian woman here in Australia, she was 30/31. Career focused moron, she was a 7.5 who thought she was a 10. I was stuffed around by her for a bit before I learned to avoid her.</p><p></p><p>Another Russian living in Australia for 7 years. 33/34-ish, I'd give her a 9. Extremely intelligent and career focused, possible baby rabies. Very focused on settling down, it didn't work out for us due to timing. I was also unsure on the age thing but in hindsight it would have been fine. I had just finished dating a 25yo and 33/34 seemed too old at the time (not to mention I needed a post breakup break). </p><p></p><p></p><p>I suspect the best odds of success are to:</p><p></p><p>1. Avoid having a huge SMV gap - e.g. if you are 40-45 and an '8' man (with strong game and decent finances) go for a '8' late 20-something woman and no more (you will still be doing very well). If you are a 7 go for a 7, 6 a 6, etc.</p><p></p><p>2. Meet her over there and not in a Western country. Live over there for at least 5 years and have your kids there. Babysitters/her parents/schools/food/everything is much cheaper over there during your expensive baby years.</p><p></p><p>3. Consider moving back to your Western country once you have popped our your 3 kids and are very settled as a family.</p><p></p><p>4. Do you best to find the pleasant village type girl rather than the city gold digger type. Use your local Russian/Ukrainian guy and girl friends for their opinion on her (i.e. private 1 on 1 girl chat should be good).</p><p></p><p>5. Expand your search to Poland, Serbia, Solvenia, Romainia, etc.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think if you take her back to your Western country before you've started your family hypergamy is a greater risk, even though yes it's much nicer to live in a 1st world country and the winters are bitter. Maybe live in Thailand/Mexico/Greece/Portugal for 3 months during euro-Winter.</p><p></p><p>Just my theory (plan) at the moment. Keen to hear comments/feedback.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PixelFree, post: 1481093, member: 13577"] Awesome thread. Also a question on my mind. My experience to share: I was engaged to a 15 years my junior Russian woman. She was from a wealthy background (e.g. richer than me - wasn't in it for my money), and was a real keeper. We met and lived in Australia. In the end I found her too quiet/shy/boring (she missed home too much) but extremely feminine, pleasant and lovely (stupid me, I know). I know of one Ukrainian woman married to an Aussie guy living in Australia. She was a real naive small town/village type, good looking, prob an 8 locally based on looks alone. There is a big SMV discrepency here, he's an ugly pimply nerd loser who works for his parents and she's software developer out earning him as well. I fully suspect they met on some kind of marriage agency tour. They have two kids together and she constantly cheats on him with higher value guys. He knows about it but can't do anything. Sounds like hell for him. I know of a second Ukrainian-Aussie marriage. The girl is probably an 7.5-8 locally (based on looks alone, which really all you need to do here in Australia is not be fat). Never met the guy. They had split up after having a kid together. So she's a 28yo single mum with a 6 month old baby. Sounds horrible also. Not sure who left who. I know of another example same as above but with a Russian woman. She tried to date my friend whilst (not visibily) pregnant with some other guys child. Wtf? I have no idea why a woman would have baby by herself like this esp after she has nuked her SMV down 50%. I have dated 2 other Russian women met here in Australia. Both of them seemed like good catches, caring and loyal (non-gold digger) women. They were both 26/27 and I was early 40. Both only had 1-2 boyfriends previously (estimated). One was very active on social media (Insta) with all kinds of posy pictures they all do but got married and instantly put it onto private like a good girl. I dated another Russian woman here in Australia, she was 30/31. Career focused moron, she was a 7.5 who thought she was a 10. I was stuffed around by her for a bit before I learned to avoid her. Another Russian living in Australia for 7 years. 33/34-ish, I'd give her a 9. Extremely intelligent and career focused, possible baby rabies. Very focused on settling down, it didn't work out for us due to timing. I was also unsure on the age thing but in hindsight it would have been fine. I had just finished dating a 25yo and 33/34 seemed too old at the time (not to mention I needed a post breakup break). I suspect the best odds of success are to: 1. Avoid having a huge SMV gap - e.g. if you are 40-45 and an '8' man (with strong game and decent finances) go for a '8' late 20-something woman and no more (you will still be doing very well). If you are a 7 go for a 7, 6 a 6, etc. 2. Meet her over there and not in a Western country. Live over there for at least 5 years and have your kids there. Babysitters/her parents/schools/food/everything is much cheaper over there during your expensive baby years. 3. Consider moving back to your Western country once you have popped our your 3 kids and are very settled as a family. 4. Do you best to find the pleasant village type girl rather than the city gold digger type. Use your local Russian/Ukrainian guy and girl friends for their opinion on her (i.e. private 1 on 1 girl chat should be good). 5. Expand your search to Poland, Serbia, Solvenia, Romainia, etc. I think if you take her back to your Western country before you've started your family hypergamy is a greater risk, even though yes it's much nicer to live in a 1st world country and the winters are bitter. Maybe live in Thailand/Mexico/Greece/Portugal for 3 months during euro-Winter. Just my theory (plan) at the moment. Keen to hear comments/feedback. [/QUOTE]
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