Need life advice - very bad situation

Liviu

Robin
Orthodox
Thanks for the kind words. Just out of curiosity - do you know anything about the Lipovan Russians in Romania and what their current state of affairs looks like? They are Orthodox Old Believers that fled to Romania a while back and established some villages there.

You`re welcome, John. Lipovan Russians from Romania, in number of about 40 000 live in the most majority in Danube Delta which is a protected area, classified as a reservation of the biosphere and which has been included in UNESCO patrimony since 1991. They have nice traditions and wear traditional Russian clothes at events. They have been fishermen for centuries. Unfortunately they broke with Russian Orthodox Church thus losing the continuity with One True Church.

You could find more about Russian Lipovans from Romania here


here


or here

 

Alexander_English

 
Banned
Protestant
I'm 23 years old and am a complete loser and on the verge of suicide. I was born in a former Soviet country and at about 6 years of age I was taken to Canada by my immigrant parents and as a result I have citizenship here. I am also currently stuck here because I am unvaccinated. I am a single child. My parents were entirely secular and although they stayed together and did not divorce, they did not raise me at all but basically just threw me into the public school system where I degenerated. My parents are toxic people who only care about themselves and are completely miserable. Because of my father's careerism, I was forced to switch schools and cities around 7 times, so I was made a complete rootless cosmopolitan with no friends. Some of the schools were ghetto, and I really hate those times. In fact, I cannot remember a single happy moment from my childhood or earlier life. I don't have any resentment or anger towards my parents, but they were not competent enough to be raising kids and should not have had me.

Since I was a single child and all of my relatives live overseas and we were constantly on the move across the country, the only people that I have any significant relationship with are my parents, who are very distant and live far away. They are also radically pro-vax. I was always unhealthy, because my parents fed me junk food in huge amounts growing up and made me get massive amounts of vaccines (including the annual flu vaccines), after which I would always get terribly sick. I am visibly unhealthy and I have narcolepsy. I am trying to treat all of my health problems but it is very hard without decent cash.

I finished the full 12 grade retarded Canadian "education" system with a 4.0 GPA, even though I exerted zero effort. I went to several Universities over a couple of years but higher education never interested me in the slightest and I couldn't finish it (part of the reason was because my mental faculties declined after I developed narcolepsy, but it also had to do with the fact that University has become insufferable now with all the wokeness), so I dropped out. I worked some dead end jobs but quit and have been a NEET ever since. My parents have provided me with an apartment in the middle of nowhere in Canada where I currently live and eat the cheapest junk available at Walmart because of no money. I never had a car, and was never taught to drive, nor do I have a licence. I have never had a girlfriend and am a virgin, moreover - my health conditions have made me ugly with grey hair, huge black bags under my eyes, extremely skinny, etc.

But my main problem is my masturbation and pornography addictions, starting from age 14. For 5 years I have tried to beat this addiction but cannot do it for the life of me. My reality is simply too depressing and I need some kind of drug to cope. I know for a fact that if I were stupid enough to get into alcohol or hard drugs as a teen, then I would be addicted to that as well. I feel that my addiction to lust is a coping mechanism for this dull reality that I live in. My porn addiction is really bad, and if I could choose one thing that I want out of this life, I would choose to overcome my lust forever.

I have been praying to God since about the time when I realized what porn is doing to my brain. I have been praying every morning, day, and evening for a long time now, but God has never helped me once over the last 5 years. Attending Church does not help either. It doesn't matter how much faith I have, when the urge strikes, nothing can stop me from relapsing.

My life is horrible and I don't see a point in continuing. I've told my story to multiple people and they say the obvious advice like "dude, just get a job, dude, just get an education, dude, just get a haircut, etc.". But I have really ran out of options at this point. It is quite appalling that my parents have witnessed my deteriorating condition for the last 5-8 years and don't care in the slightest. They are simply busy working and consuming product.

At this point, I have reached the end of the road with no real hope for the future. And the ongoing coronavirus and wokeness idiocy gives me no hope for society either. I'm seriously considering killing myself just to end this suffering.

I'm writing this to you in hope that you might have some unique advice to offer me. Maybe not, but it's still worth a shot.

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. You are on the right track.

1 Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

You have enough faith to realize you must not kill yourself even if that means honorably suffering for another several decades until God brings you home. May God be with you.
 

Alexander_English

 
Banned
Protestant
Many people were in similar, apparently hopeless situations as yours and, in addition to praying to God, they spoke to Mary, the Mother of God, to ask for her intercession and prayers to her son, Jesus, in order to help you. You can speak to her openly. Pour out your heart to her as you have done in your OP.

It may help to print or buy an icon of her that you place on a wall or book shelf in order to help focus your mind on her. She loves you. Her son Jesus loves you. They will help. Pray and do not despair.

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Mary and her young son, Jesus.

This is very true. Mary the Virgin Mother has been with me in the most difficult situations in my life, even before I believed in God. Somehow even as an atheist who attacked God all the time, I was aware of the presence of Mary as a spiritual being and relied on her for support and comfort especially when I was rejected by women, or facing some self-caused issues with women due to my poor choices. She was there to comfort me and make me realize I am not alone, she is with me and I have an eternal companion who provides better companionship than any woman on Earth. I don't know how that made sense to me as a materialist/atheist but it was true. Now that I know she is the God-bearer, it makes sense the truth of Mary came to me first, before the truth of God and His Son Jesus Christ.

I was happy to learn from the Orthodox Study Bible that Mary is identified with the Garden of Eden, which brought forth the Tree of Life, Jesus Christ in its midst, among many other appearances of Mary in older times written about in the Old Testament. I like thinking of Mary as unspoiled creation itself, the beauty of the natural world God created for us whether I'm looking at a beautiful unspoiled wilderness or just a beautiful looking tree, patch of sky or beam of light in an otherwise ugly urban-blighted landscape. Speaking to Mary satisfies the natural urge to have a spiritual connection and reverence for Mother Earth, the Queen of Heaven, the Earth Goddess, etc. while being clear that the Mother of God, the most honorable and blessed woman in heaven and Earth, is absolutely NOT a "goddess". The Christian doctrines about Mary place her in exactly her proper place, to be loved and revered, and to comfort us even (especially) in isolation and rejection by the world, without turning her into some kind of pagan Earth-goddess.

God provided even more than the truth of Jesus Christ to bring me peace, even though that is already more than enough. He also generously gave the true physical presence of Mary by my side, and the entire community of the saints, in order to have even greater peace and no longer feel alone.

Edit: I realized that was self-centered, completely about me. Obviously I am recommending you should start speaking to Mary and realize she is with you. You should get a picture and/or statue of Mary and baby Jesus and just stare at them and pray, to God as God in the form of a little infant child and realize He came to Earth in the flesh for your and my sake and suffered more than we ever will. And, speak to Mary the way you would speak to either 1) your mother if you were a little boy and you had a good, loving mother, or 2) a young, extremely beautiful virgin woman who is your relative or someone else completely un-sexual but who loves and cares about you deeply. One of the beautiful things about Mary is how she fulfills both roles.
 
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Reem

Chicken
Orthodox Catechumen
I have located the source of my addiction to lust and it is of a peculiar nature. For me it is not enough to stop viewing women sexually, blocking porn, etc. It is a Pavlovian hormonal "rush" that begins whenever I start to feel chronically stressed out and it constantly pushes me to relapse. I think I developed this from my brain being conditioned to pornography at an early age. My longest abstinence streaks occur when I manage to overcome this rush by being around other people whenever the rush occurs. It can take days to subside when it happens and so I eventually relapse to just get it over with, so that it disappears.


Thank you.
Masturbation isolates you in the world of fantasy . To relate effectively to a woman , you need to free your mind from the world of fantasy created by masturbation .
 
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RedLagoon

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Your OP shows a lot of strength even though you might not know this. You have taken the first step towards healing and you should be proud of this.

There has been some great advice already in this thread, take it to heart and you will look back on this time in your life as a lesson, please stay around brother and God bless you.
 

Pointy Elbows

Kingfisher
Orthodox
JohnD777, I said a little prayer for you this morning. May God give you strength and wisdom to attend to today's struggles. Sufficient for today are the struggles of today. God bless you and may you have a happy and fulfilling day today! Please keep us posted.
 

aguy01

Pigeon
Orthodox Catechumen
Based on my research, the main causes of my health conditions are the following: autoimmune reactions to bad food (thinking of going on a carnivore diet), heavy metal build up from vaccines and tap water, hormonal imbalances (high estrogren, high prolactine, low t) from porn and endocrine disruptors, parasites and pathogenic microorganisms that I need to get rid of (I suspect that I might have Lyme disease or Candida build up). I already supplement the essential minerals and vitamins that I need, but I have leaky gut and all of that might not be getting absorbed by my body.
I did a carnivore diet for 9 months, 2 months of which was strict ribeye / salt / water.

I also had some issues I suspected were Candida, namely acne and brain fog and other issues commonly associated with candida, so I did it as an elimination diet. In the end, I started adding foods back in and realized I have no problems with any foods really, and my symptoms were ultimately related to stress I have found. Eating smaller meals more frequently helped reduce cortisol (fasting elevates cortisol because it is a necessary element of initiating fat release from your cells), avoiding overtraining by following a periodized program that forces proper deloading also made a big difference (5/3/1 in my case). Also porn elevates cortisol a lot (the rush you get involves a cocktail of adrenal hormones of which cortisol is one) and depletes B Vitamins so thats another big thing to keep avoiding.

Also in terms of high carb vs low carb diets, I would suggest getting a 23 and me DNA test and taking the raw DNA report over to here https://www.foundmyfitness.com/genetics. This will tell you genetically if you should be on a high or low carb diet. For me it suggested high carb and I have found that they are correct and everything about my life is better on a high carb, low fat diet. That's not the case for everyone though, some people do better on low carb, but the point is you will never feel great on a diet that isn't suited for you.
 

Lawrence87

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Another suggestion based upon your OP would be to make sure you include gratitude towards God in your morning and evening prayers.

If I am honest, your OP sounds like you have a lot of rage against God. Maybe not expressed in precisely those terms, but it seems like you have a lot of complaints about things you feel are beyond your control (in other words things that are in God's hands). I'm not trying to be too critical here, because we all do this from time to time.

I think it might benefit to remember all of the good things that God does for you. Thank Him each morning that He has granted a new day for you. Thank Him that He created you. Thank Him that He has provided you with this life as a chance for salvation. Thank Him for sending His only begotten Son to suffer and die in order to conquer death for us, and for the life and freedom that he is offering you.

Remember that loving one's neighbour is an extension of our love for God. So even if your rage is directed at your parents or whatnot you still ultimately rage against God. Seize control of the things that you can control, and come to peace with God, I think step one on that path is to let go of our rage against God and embrace gratitude. He has the power to take everything from you in an instant, so take inventory of all the things you do have, and thank Him with all your heart.
 

M'bare

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Gold Member
you blame others for thing that you are responsible for. You have no friends - your responsibility. You are unhealthy - your responsibility. You are uneducated - your responsibility. You don’t know how to drive - your responsibility.
You have no job or money - your responsibility.
You’re addicted to porn - your responsibility. But according to you, you have no friend because your parents moved a lot, your unhealthily because they fed you junk food, you don’t know how to drive because no one thought you, your uneducated because of wokenes ecc…It’s about time that you take the responsibility for your life from other people and put it in you hands. Recognise that all of these things are the results of your choices. That’s empowering, because you can easily choose otherwise.

Bingo. It's tough, but take 100 percent accountability for things. Sure there are outliers like someone running a red light and smashing into you. You don't have to take accountability for stuff like that.

But everything else, and things you mentioned. Own it man. Not owning it gives you excuses to continue it.
 

ph80

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Here's the thing. you are TWENTY THREE YEARS OLD. When I was 23, I thought my life was ending because I wasn't successful and also addicted to pornography like you.

However, now that I'm 38, in hindsight, from 23 on you have SO MUCH LIFE left to live. You are VERY YOUNG. it may not feel like it, but when you enter your 30s the age of 23 will seem like a young pup. And you can still enjoy your life immensely in your 30s. In fact, now is the best time of all to focus on what's right.

Here are the ONLY THINGS that matter at 23: developing a career, finding a long-term partner, and living your life in good Christian faith. You need to start on the first one immediately, and the second one keep in the back of your mind until it happens, and work on the third throughout your life.

And don't be distracted by women and getting laid. It's actually not that important in the long run. When I was in my 20s I was obsessed with getting laid or not getting laid, and all of the pretty girls around me, but now, in my late 30s, I realized that all that stuff is just a waste of time. Sex is actually not that big of a deal. Media makes it into a much bigger deal than it is. All the pretty girls around you? They're going to hit the wall in 10 years and not even look that pretty. But in 10 years you could be banking a six figure salary, building wealth, and raising a family with a woman who supports you and cherishes you. But ONLY if you focus 100% on that right now and don't get distracted by shit that doesn't matter: getting laid with loose women, playing video games, masturbating to pornography, listening to hip hop music, traveling the world aimlessly, etc.

Other guys your age will try to distract you, or make fun of you for not going to clubs, and not getting "laid" with loose, promiscuous women, but these things don't actually matter. They're tricks played on you to distract you from your true purpose. Casual sex is like eating potato chips - unsatisfying and bad for your health. Pornography is just casual sex projected onto your computer screen. The only sex that matters is sex you have with a long term partner with whom you have a strong emotional and spiritual bond. Casual sex and pornography spoil you for that. Other guys will make fun of you for thinking this, but in the end they will ALL regret it.

EVERY SINGLE MAN WHO WAS A "PLAYER" OR GOT LAID ALOT IN HIS 20S and even 30S THAT I'VE MET ENDED UP DEPRESSED AND BROKE. I was shocked when I realized this, but I've met many "naturals" and guys who had tons of sex, and in the end, when they're 40 years old, they have nothing to show for it, nobody gives a SHIT what their lay count was, and women find them usually creepy and gross. The only exceptions are guys who managed to also build a career and some long term relationships despite being players, and at the point, they succeeded in spite of their casual sex flaw.

You're 23 years old. I would give ANYTHING to be in your position again, knowing what's actually important in life. And I'm telling you right now the most important things in life are simply: building a career, starting a family with a good woman, and building your faith in God.
 

JohnD777

Pigeon
Orthodox
Here's the thing. you are TWENTY THREE YEARS OLD. When I was 23, I thought my life was ending because I wasn't successful and also addicted to pornography like you.

However, now that I'm 38, in hindsight, from 23 on you have SO MUCH LIFE left to live. You are VERY YOUNG. it may not feel like it, but when you enter your 30s the age of 23 will seem like a young pup. And you can still enjoy your life immensely in your 30s. In fact, now is the best time of all to focus on what's right.

Here are the ONLY THINGS that matter at 23: developing a career, finding a long-term partner, and living your life in good Christian faith. You need to start on the first one immediately, and the second one keep in the back of your mind until it happens, and work on the third throughout your life.

The most IMPORTANT THING is establishing a career, skills, that enable you to earn a living or even become wealthy into the future.

And don't be distracted by women and getting laid. It's actually not that important in the long run. When I was in my 20s I was obsessed with getting laid or not getting laid, and all of the pretty girls around me, but now, in my late 30s, I realized that all that stuff is just a waste of time. Sex is actually not that big of a deal. Media makes it into a much bigger deal than it is. All the pretty girls around you? They're going to hit the wall in 10 years and not even look that pretty. But in 10 years you could be banking a six figure salary, building wealth, and raising a family with a woman who supports you and cherishes you. But ONLY if you focus 100% on that right now and don't get distracted by shit that doesn't matter: getting laid with loose women, playing video games, masturbating to pornography, listening to hip hop music, traveling the world aimlessly, etc.

You're 23 years old. I would give ANYTHING to be in your position again, knowing what's actually important in life. And I'm telling you right now the most important things in life are simply: building a career, starting a family with a good woman, and building your faith in God.
That sounds good and all but in Cucknada I am banned from higher education and even trade school for being unvaxed - this is the case across the country. More and more employers are also mandating the vax. My best bet seems to be working on a farm.
 

ph80

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
That sounds good and all but in Cucknada I am banned from higher education and even trade school for being unvaxed - this is the case across the country. More and more employers are also mandating the vax. My best bet seems to be working on a farm.

If that's your best option, then take it, at the moment, The world might open up for you in the future.

Meanwhile, learn as much as you can about how the world works - read books on economics, finance, religion, sociology, etc. Try to find a "niche" for yourself - something you genuinely have a talent for. Even if it's a trade like plumbing or carpentry. Or it could be writing or programming.

Whatever your niche is, MAX it. You want to be the best at ONE particular thing that can carry you to a successful career at some point in the future. Even if you're working on a farm now, identify that one thing that's "yours" and build it in your spare time. This will be the bedrock of your life until you're old and gray.
 

nicolahcm

Sparrow
I'm 23 years old and am a complete loser and on the verge of suicide. I was born in a former Soviet country and at about 6 years of age I was taken to Canada by my immigrant parents and as a result I have citizenship here. I am also currently stuck here because I am unvaccinated. I am a single child. My parents were entirely secular and although they stayed together and did not divorce, they did not raise me at all but basically just threw me into the public school system where I degenerated. My parents are toxic people who only care about themselves and are completely miserable. Because of my father's careerism, I was forced to switch schools and cities around 7 times, so I was made a complete rootless cosmopolitan with no friends. Some of the schools were ghetto, and I really hate those times. In fact, I cannot remember a single happy moment from my childhood or earlier life. I don't have any resentment or anger towards my parents, but they were not competent enough to be raising kids and should not have had me.

Since I was a single child and all of my relatives live overseas and we were constantly on the move across the country, the only people that I have any significant relationship with are my parents, who are very distant and live far away. They are also radically pro-vax. I was always unhealthy, because my parents fed me junk food in huge amounts growing up and made me get massive amounts of vaccines (including the annual flu vaccines), after which I would always get terribly sick. I am visibly unhealthy and I have narcolepsy. I am trying to treat all of my health problems but it is very hard without decent cash.

I finished the full 12 grade retarded Canadian "education" system with a 4.0 GPA, even though I exerted zero effort. I went to several Universities over a couple of years but higher education never interested me in the slightest and I couldn't finish it (part of the reason was because my mental faculties declined after I developed narcolepsy, but it also had to do with the fact that University has become insufferable now with all the wokeness), so I dropped out. I worked some dead end jobs but quit and have been a NEET ever since. My parents have provided me with an apartment in the middle of nowhere in Canada where I currently live and eat the cheapest junk available at Walmart because of no money. I never had a car, and was never taught to drive, nor do I have a licence. I have never had a girlfriend and am a virgin, moreover - my health conditions have made me ugly with grey hair, huge black bags under my eyes, extremely skinny, etc.

But my main problem is my masturbation and pornography addictions, starting from age 14. For 5 years I have tried to beat this addiction but cannot do it for the life of me. My reality is simply too depressing and I need some kind of drug to cope. I know for a fact that if I were stupid enough to get into alcohol or hard drugs as a teen, then I would be addicted to that as well. I feel that my addiction to lust is a coping mechanism for this dull reality that I live in. My porn addiction is really bad, and if I could choose one thing that I want out of this life, I would choose to overcome my lust forever.

I have been praying to God since about the time when I realized what porn is doing to my brain. I have been praying every morning, day, and evening for a long time now, but God has never helped me once over the last 5 years. Attending Church does not help either. It doesn't matter how much faith I have, when the urge strikes, nothing can stop me from relapsing.

My life is horrible and I don't see a point in continuing. I've told my story to multiple people and they say the obvious advice like "dude, just get a job, dude, just get an education, dude, just get a haircut, etc.". But I have really ran out of options at this point. It is quite appalling that my parents have witnessed my deteriorating condition for the last 5-8 years and don't care in the slightest. They are simply busy working and consuming product.

At this point, I have reached the end of the road with no real hope for the future. And the ongoing coronavirus and wokeness idiocy gives me no hope for society either. I'm seriously considering killing myself just to end this suffering.

I'm writing this to you in hope that you might have some unique advice to offer me. Maybe not, but it's still worth a shot.


Hi John. I am 24 years old, and I think I relate very much to your story.

My parents emigrated to another western country and expected me to raise by myself, without any effort to integrate or create any social circle. Many immigrants and bad influence at school. I never had a girl, and during high school I got terribly addicted to porn. It also was my only way to cope with the terrible school and totally negligent family.

But enough getting depressed, this is not the solution and we know it.

Now I am in Russia, since 5 months, and I started teaching at school. This allows me to remain here in Russia, where I am trying to rebuild all by myself. Many people underestimate it, but the social part and the community are the most important things. Too bad that my parents did not take care of it. And do all by start is very difficult. Lonelyness is very tough. I understand about your masturbation problem. It is not because of lust, but a way to escape of the tough situation. I cannot say that I have overcome it, but in the last months, It seems almost disappeared. Not by my self. But thanks to God.
I explain you.

The first 2 months here in Russia have been so tough, but I wanted to escape from where I came from, because there I saw no future. Not that this solution is suitable for all. Then I started attending Church, and this a bit helped. Plus the language was a huge barrier, but I studied hard, and obtained a decent level that allows me to communicate decently.

The loneliness was destroying me, start all from zero was so tough. I was totally alone. Then I decided to do something, and I had an enlightment. Here in Russia, thanks God is full of Orthodox Churches. During Xmas Holidays, I took my stuff, went out in the morning, and visited all the Churches that I could. There I prayed a little, but most importantly, I asked people who worked there, or the Priest, if they organized some volunteering, or any activity with young people. I found so many Churches and many welcomed me and invited me to many many activities. Now it's been almost 3 weeks, and I only had 2 days off, all the others either I was busy in Church helping, either working.
And this is the secret to reduce the loneliness. Of course, sometimes is still very tough, but I am creating good Christian friends, and they often invite me in many activities. Even only turning down the candles in the Church, I won't decline this offer. Or help in feeding poor people in the station. Or helping in an exposition of Orthodox icons. I found so many good people of Church that are welcoming me, and it is very hard now that I found myself without anything to do.

1) Try to build a community. Eventually more community, don't limit yourself to 1 Church. At the beginning, I was limiting myself to only 1 Church, but there were only old people, and I attended some activities and it was harder to connect with them. Then I decided to try many Churches, and I found many people that are very welcoming and invite me to help whenever I can. For example, yesterday, there was the Baptism of Jesus. They invited me to help and keep the Cross in the road-crossing and some other helps. Today I helped throwing the short candles in Church.

2) Try to get yourself always busy with practical things, As you can see, do not be so extreme and limit your self with prayers, reading of holy books and so on. Of course this is important, but understand that not all are suited only for this, and this was my mistake, as well as of many other people. I understand the holy books, and the prayers, but this is not enough. As they say here in Russia, faith without practice, is death.
And this includes contacts with people. We are not all born to be monks. Few people have this energy to do this, and this has been given by God. Do not be so extremist and spend 10 hours a day among prayer and readings of holy books. This is more harmful.
Do activities, find something. Volunteering and so on. Pray for this. When I prayed for this, then God filled me with so many things to do, that I barely even have the time for myself, and most importantly, you feel fulfilled and not lonely. You do not even have the time to contemplate how miserable is your lonlely life. You are too busy doing activities.

Please take these advices.
If you want to know more, feel free to message me.
 

lasunsets

Sparrow
Catholic
I love you brother. You and I are around the same age and I don't think that the older members know the struggle for our age group. For many of us, it's over when it comes to women because of feminism, hypergamy and whatnot. Hence, we become very self-critical and negative. Nevertheless, remember your sorrow has been given to you by God for a mysterious reason. I wish my life could have been different and I sometimes just laugh at my fate. That being said, spend the rest of your life loving God and keep the good fight going. Suicide and self-harm are never the answer for the devil wants us to destroy ourselves. The cure to all things is true Christian love. Love Our Lord and Our Lady and love everyone. Forgive everyone for everything. Stay in a state of love and you will see who freeing and rewarding it is. I am praying for you, brother.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Hi John. I am 24 years old, and I think I relate very much to your story.

My parents emigrated to another western country and expected me to raise by myself, without any effort to integrate or create any social circle. Many immigrants and bad influence at school. I never had a girl, and during high school I got terribly addicted to porn. It also was my only way to cope with the terrible school and totally negligent family.

But enough getting depressed, this is not the solution and we know it.

Now I am in Russia, since 5 months, and I started teaching at school. This allows me to remain here in Russia, where I am trying to rebuild all by myself. Many people underestimate it, but the social part and the community are the most important things. Too bad that my parents did not take care of it. And do all by start is very difficult. Lonelyness is very tough. I understand about your masturbation problem. It is not because of lust, but a way to escape of the tough situation. I cannot say that I have overcome it, but in the last months, It seems almost disappeared. Not by my self. But thanks to God.
I explain you.

The first 2 months here in Russia have been so tough, but I wanted to escape from where I came from, because there I saw no future. Not that this solution is suitable for all. Then I started attending Church, and this a bit helped. Plus the language was a huge barrier, but I studied hard, and obtained a decent level that allows me to communicate decently.

The loneliness was destroying me, start all from zero was so tough. I was totally alone. Then I decided to do something, and I had an enlightment. Here in Russia, thanks God is full of Orthodox Churches. During Xmas Holidays, I took my stuff, went out in the morning, and visited all the Churches that I could. There I prayed a little, but most importantly, I asked people who worked there, or the Priest, if they organized some volunteering, or any activity with young people. I found so many Churches and many welcomed me and invited me to many many activities. Now it's been almost 3 weeks, and I only had 2 days off, all the others either I was busy in Church helping, either working.
And this is the secret to reduce the loneliness. Of course, sometimes is still very tough, but I am creating good Christian friends, and they often invite me in many activities. Even only turning down the candles in the Church, I won't decline this offer. Or help in feeding poor people in the station. Or helping in an exposition of Orthodox icons. I found so many good people of Church that are welcoming me, and it is very hard now that I found myself without anything to do.

1) Try to build a community. Eventually more community, don't limit yourself to 1 Church. At the beginning, I was limiting myself to only 1 Church, but there were only old people, and I attended some activities and it was harder to connect with them. Then I decided to try many Churches, and I found many people that are very welcoming and invite me to help whenever I can. For example, yesterday, there was the Baptism of Jesus. They invited me to help and keep the Cross in the road-crossing and some other helps. Today I helped throwing the short candles in Church.

2) Try to get yourself always busy with practical things, As you can see, do not be so extreme and limit your self with prayers, reading of holy books and so on. Of course this is important, but understand that not all are suited only for this, and this was my mistake, as well as of many other people. I understand the holy books, and the prayers, but this is not enough. As they say here in Russia, faith without practice, is death.
And this includes contacts with people. We are not all born to be monks. Few people have this energy to do this, and this has been given by God. Do not be so extremist and spend 10 hours a day among prayer and readings of holy books. This is more harmful.
Do activities, find something. Volunteering and so on. Pray for this. When I prayed for this, then God filled me with so many things to do, that I barely even have the time for myself, and most importantly, you feel fulfilled and not lonely. You do not even have the time to contemplate how miserable is your lonlely life. You are too busy doing activities.

Please take these advices.
If you want to know more, feel free to message me.

Thats a great advice. I had a friend once who was quite blackpilled, disillusioned with how things were in society and seemed generally lost in life due to him being very politically charged and not being able to monetize his right wing activism.

So I figured that him being a native English speaker could be a giant asset elsewhere. So I advice him to take a break from North America and go teach English overseas. Which he did, once in Mexico and then in South America. It definitely made him alive for some time.

Maybe thats what the creator of this thread needs to do - just take the jab to be able to travel (not the worst option given he already considers suicide) and move overseas like to Russia to teach English and get busy with a local church.

Who knows, maybe in a few years he'll be a healthier still young man, possibly married to an Ortho lady.

Sometimes one needs to drastically change the environment.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
And don't be distracted by women and getting laid. It's actually not that important in the long run. When I was in my 20s I was obsessed with getting laid or not getting laid, and all of the pretty girls around me, but now, in my late 30s, I realized that all that stuff is just a waste of time. Sex is actually not that big of a deal. Media makes it into a much bigger deal than it is. All the pretty girls around you? They're going to hit the wall in 10 years and not even look that pretty. But in 10 years you could be banking a six figure salary, building wealth, and raising a family with a woman who supports you and cherishes you. But ONLY if you focus 100% on that right now and don't get distracted by shit that doesn't matter: getting laid with loose women, playing video games, masturbating to pornography, listening to hip hop music, traveling the world aimlessly, etc.

I’d add on to that. I was a very late bloomer too and didn’t have any success in that area until 23. Never really got good at that and whenever I did start going well I’d self sabotage (because I didn’t want that and I knew it).

In my hobby ( war game) group we have a former military guy who traveled the world on embassy duty sleeping with a rather interesting and thrilling sex life. Nice guy and I respect him now but he doesn’t have much to show for it and he knows it. On my end I’m married to the second girl I ever slept with (wish it was the first quite frankly) and he’s still trying to get what we have in my family.


Speaking of. One good, cheap way to get out of the house and enjoy a shared activity is to find a good board game group. The online forums tend to be pretty rabid leftists but in person meetup groups are usually much better (the really negative people usually don’t get out much).
 

ph80

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
I think what Roosh discovered and what a lot of PUA gurus discovered in recent years, is that you could have sex with hundreds or even thousands of women and past a certain point, the experience is mostly the same. There are incredibly diminishing returns sleeping with more than a handful of women.

And no matter how many women you slept with, when it's all over, you have gained nothing but some similar, interchangeable memories. THAT'S IT. And that is probably why all these high lay count guys who spent so much time chasing women end up old, lonely, depressed alcoholics.

I worked with a guy once who was in his 60s, and told me stories of all the women he slept with when he was young, living in Brooklyn. This guy must have slept with more than 200 women back in the 60s/70s in NYC. He was one of these naturals who looked like a movie star when he was in his 20s, and also dealt drugs so he had status and money (back then). When I knew him, he was working at a retail store stocking shelves in his old age. The guy was a serious alcoholic - he would come in at 5 in the morning reeking of whiskey. I thought to myself, "This guy had any woman he wanted when he was younger, and had money and power, and he never married, and now he's just an old alcoholic working at a grocery store." All the women you sleep with, it just doesn't matter when it's over. This guy had memories but did it do him any good? No. He was drinking himself to death working minimum wage. He finally passed away of liver failure a few years after I first met him.

If they're smart, they monetize their womanizing by selling PUA services, but at this point, even that's not as feasible as it once was. The revenue stream is drying up due to several converging factors. So essentially, anyone who chases women at this point in time is wasting their life.
 

canuckj

Woodpecker
Other Christian
I think what Roosh discovered and what a lot of PUA gurus discovered in recent years, is that you could have sex with hundreds or even thousands of women and past a certain point, the experience is mostly the same. There are incredibly diminishing returns sleeping with more than a handful of women.

And no matter how many women you slept with, when it's all over, you have gained nothing but some similar, interchangeable memories. THAT'S IT. And that is probably why all these high lay count guys who spent so much time chasing women end up old, lonely, depressed alcoholics.

I worked with a guy once who was in his 60s, and told me stories of all the women he slept with when he was young, living in Brooklyn. This guy must have slept with more than 200 women back in the 60s/70s in NYC. He was one of these naturals who looked like a movie star when he was in his 20s, and also dealt drugs so he had status and money (back then). When I knew him, he was working at a retail store stocking shelves in his old age. The guy was a serious alcoholic - he would come in at 5 in the morning reeking of whiskey. I thought to myself, "This guy had any woman he wanted when he was younger, and had money and power, and he never married, and now he's just an old alcoholic working at a grocery store." All the women you sleep with, it just doesn't matter when it's over. This guy had memories but did it do him any good? No. He was drinking himself to death working minimum wage. He finally passed away of liver failure a few years after I first met him.

If they're smart, they monetize their womanizing by selling PUA services, but at this point, even that's not as feasible as it once was. The revenue stream is drying up due to several converging factors. So essentially, anyone who chases women at this point in time is wasting their life.
Agreed on all points. I personally know people with notch counts of over 100. If they find God they only feel shame not pride. Just emptiness, sin and shame.

Also worked at a liquor store once after the oil economy crashed and needed a temporary job. It was horrible. A lot of the employees were alcoholics and many of the customers were addicts. They would come every day, some twice to buy a bottle. One was a woman with a kid in tow. It cured me of wanting to drink to deal with my pain. The job was soul crushing.

Please continue to pray for the young man who started the thread.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
Whatever your niche is, MAX it. You want to be the best at ONE particular thing that can carry you to a successful career at some point in the future. Even if you're working on a farm now, identify that one thing that's "yours" and build it in your spare time. This will be the bedrock of your life until you're old and gray.

I disagree. I followed this advice, and became successful -- in an industry which now requires vaccines in order to stay employed!

My employer fired me for refusing to disclose my vaccination status, and every other employer also requires proof of vaccination. Finding a new job is hard because I put all my eggs in one basket.

The best thing is not to focus on any particular skill, but rather to master multiple, and to learn to be self-sufficient, without any debt.
 
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