New anti-blasphemy rule (effective November 1)

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Captain Gh

Ostrich
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wwtl said:
Captain Gh said:
First it's always analyze what Women do... and never trust what they say. "Talking on & off for 1 year... her calling you a... friend... and thinking you're ahead?!?! Dude... you're not even in the FriendZone... You're in the FriendZone of the FriendZone!!! Religious or not... what are the probability of a Hot & Young 20 Year Old not livin it up with anyone else!??

You realize that your "FriendZone" is a completely fictional concept, made up by liberal screenwriter for a TV show to cope with his own dating failures? It's fictional, it doesn't exist.

The Manosphere has educated Men on certain tenets of Women & Dating... and I don't think they blend in quite well with Christianity since MANY will view them as inherently immoral knowledge to pursue... and the Blue Pill lives on & on.

The Red Pill was about seeing through the cultural brainwashing bullshit. Like the one you quoted above. First thing I did after learning game in my youth was to bang that "out of my league" HB in that "inescapable friendzone" to check it off my list. I'm not proud of that as a Christian convert today, but it proved RP right.

A women's heart is not through her vagina?!?! Whut!?!?

That like learning the # 0 in Math, or A in spelling. Attraction is what drives a woman to be interested in you and when you successfully convey value & rapport, this longer lasting Attraction is now Passion coming from Her.

It absolutely starts with sexuality... and unless she reallly really believes in Chastity (which by the way is the Attraction she feels which allow her to "fight nature" for the greater good) you got 2-max 3 dates to solidify the Whole Thang.

I have a counterexample orbiting me. She doesn't believe chastity at all. Fell head over heels in love with me simply by talking to, singing and praying with me, all that with minimal kino (no hover hands, but inappropriate context for cuddling). Is still completely confused about it, because she believed the same vagina theory as you do.

All I did was hold my frame, not employ limiting beliefs and trust God.

New Forum members... do not let Your Christian Beliefs to make you gullable to Blue Pill falsities

The Bible is full of truths countering the Blue Pill. It literally commands you to not put women on a pedestal.

TheGreatLogos said:
I don't think Roosh is being hypocritical here. We have to remember that if it weren't for God, we wouldn't have free speech. We must respect his name.

Alpha F**** Beta B**** aka the FriendZone is now a Myth

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You're one of the Most HardCore on here now... so let's agree to disagree!

And regarding everything you wrote about your interaction with that Chick... Wheater you realize it or not... you Ran Game! Created Attraction => Established Rapport => Then Started the Seduction Process but self consciously stopped it b4 intimacy and (possible) Last Minute Resistance came your way.

What you don't realize is that your extreme conviction in Christianity is an extremely powerful element creating Attraction & Rapport simultaneously... and instantly if talking to a chick who's religious. Very enticing to the Right Prospect!

You call it Faith I call it Game => Same Thing!

The same reason that if Roosh decides to Marry... he's guarenteed to have a smoke show... or a normy with extreme emotional kindness.

The same reason why Roosh will become a prominent figure in Christianity within 5 years... and the haterz will re-emerge. Déja Vue is what they call it!

You heard here First!
 

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Louis IX

Pelican
Latan said:
Cattle Rustler said:
Roosh,

Would it be possible for you to give forum members a time period to delete their forum posts? I remember you allowed us once before, for 7 days and many forum members would appreciate it if you did it again.

It would be a win-win situation. Adulterous non-Christian content would be removed for the most part. In addition, members who do not wish to be associated with the forum any longer can distance themselves or practically erase their existence. Everyone can continue on with their life without drama for the most part (aside from those wishing to meltdown).

This.

I also made many posts promoting promiscuity.
I'd really like to have the opportunity to erase them, as they link me to a darker past and don't belong anymore in this forum.

I actually disagree with this. We cannot erase the past totally. The sins we have done are done . Reading some of the stuff from the past is positive since it shows you how much you have changed and how "wrong " you were before.
We can simply block this content from new registrations and/or non members.
 

Louis IX

Pelican
rockoman said:
It isn't just liberal cultural hegemony which is a hindrance to young men marrying early to form a traditional family - kids, wife at home etc - it is also the economic reality of our times.

1. Training, education taking longer - deeper into his twenties.

2. Women often earning more than men.

3. Many young men barely earning enough to support themselves, never mind a family.

4. QE forcing house prices and rents higher and higher - families have to live somewhere.

The building of a traditional family has to be part of a traditional mindset, which necesarily includes a man investing in his own knowledge, skills and experience in order to allow him to support a family.

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"But in a new study examining household formation patterns in the US, Pew Research Center has isolated the biggest factor behind the rise in those households without a partner or spouse: “The declining ability of men to earn a salary large enough to sustain a family.”

.....
"That’s right. As wages for female workers have risen in recent years, wages for their male peers have stagnated. This in turn has weighed on the household formation rate, because men are more reluctant to marry and start families unless they’re earning above a threshold, which Pew identified as $40,000, the Hill reported.


Instead, analysts said, the decline in both marriage and partnerships “All signs point to the growing fragility of the male wage earner,” said Cheryl Russell, a demographer and editorial director at the New Strategist Press. “The demographic segments most likely to be living without a partner are the ones in which men are struggling the most — young adults, the less educated, Hispanics, and blacks.”


“The point at which the average young man becomes ‘marriageable’ appears to be earnings of $40,000 a year or more,” Russell said.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017...ing-marraige-because-men-arent-earning-enough

Yes absolutely . But this is more am issue in rich countries. In many poor countries the financial condition is worse than in the west but people marry very young . So this is more a matter of society which applies to rich countries than the core of the problem .
The core of the problem is to not be aware that marrying young is a healthy thing in most cases and should be priority over working ; never mind the financial conditions .

I have spent a total of 900USD ( equivalent ) for my wedding with around 30 guests ; and it was good memories for everyone . I know people who have spent astronomical amounts for their wedding but divorced two/three years later . If there is real honest love things will work out well. From my experience real Christian women do not care about having a "low-key" wedding ceremony . But all the instagirls ( I do not want to call women instawhores anymore) and princesses will want a top ceremony to share it on social networks

I think only house prices are the issue. Before 2nd WW in western Europe one salary was enough to have a household and a little flat. Now if both work it s barely enough to rent something decent.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
Going off memory from Fawn Brodie's "No Man Knows My History" and other sources, but I don't his recall that Joseph Smith was a freemason before his first supposed revelation. He was into the practice of money digging, the use of divining rods, and such occultic practices. And of course there were the infamous seer stones. There's little doubt that Mormonism's development of temple rules heavily drew from Freemasonry, but I think Smith got into that in the 1830s. Smith revelations and behavior got increasingly "out there" as he progressed from the BoM to the D&C to the Pearl of Great Price to the King Follette discourse not long before his death.

Sandra Tanner (one of Brigham Young's great great granddaughters) and Bill McKeever are good resources.

I've lurked here and there a few years, but what always stopped me from joining was all the porn pictures...too much temptation to look. It's good to see the workings of conscience in many of you who are re-evaluating things.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Note that there are Mormons on this forum, and they consider themselves to be part of the Christian faith, so let's keep any critiques of them intellectual and without passion.
 
d said:
It's a chapter in the whole book. It's not a manual on how to sin, it's a book about women, their psychology and how to interact with them. Sex is a part of this interaction. It's up to you how you use this knowledge. There are people who use technical knowledge of chemistry to build bombs, but it doesn't mean the books should be pulled or that their authors publish them in bad faith.

Also you're using false dichotomy with your example. It'd be more accurate to say that an ex-robber slips a tutorial of lock-picking in his legitimate book, or something like that. You talk of doing something in bad faith, but you're nitpicking just for the sake of being contrarian.

To the contrary, I'd say your defense of the apparent inconsistency is more revealing of your own sycophancy

You are trying to justify someone profiting from advice on casual sex, plain and simple.

If you want to stick with the lock-picking analogy, then Roosh's chapter on SEX is similar to that of the former-robber who wrote an overall good book on gaining wealth with a chapter on lock-picking tutorial. However the context of that tutorial deals with instructions on how to lock-pick house doors for stealing jewels.

Maybe there is nothing wrong with lock-picking per se, under the right conditions, but the advice for lock-picking to facilitate a burglary would surely be out of bounds... even if the rest of the book provides sound advice.

There's no denying that everything in Roosh's SEX chapter is advice for getting sex outside of marriage. Specifically, the common obstacles that you will have to overcome in banging out girls with 'emptier penis pipelines'...

Would you like another quote?

I’ve never had to wait more than five dates to have sex with a girl, including virgins, but I’ve heard many stories from men who needed more dates to seal the deal. I don’t want to lay down a rigid rule you must follow, but it is rare to find a non-virgin who won’t sleep with a man by the third date. If a girl hasn’t slept with you by then, she should provide evidence that she is a virgin, extremely religious, or has values that are higher than those of normal girls her age.

Val¡zadeh, Roosh. Game: How To Meet, Attract, And Date Attractive Women.

My question to you is that if someone wrote this now, what do you think would happen? Does this seem like it would be acceptable within the new rules of the forum?

The turn of faith is all well and good; it's his forum. I can respect him for taking a stand and attempting to reshape the forum to reflect his values (even if I think it's an error in judgment and will have the opposite effect in bringing more people to his view).

Nonetheless, I still find it highly inconsistent and of bad faith that Roosh's conscience is burdended by having a platform that allows others' discussion of casual sex while NOT being bothered by selling a book with advice for obtaining casual sex (even if only a part of the book). It appears that when there are book sales on the line, that conscience gets light in a hurry.

Then again, I'm inclined to respect consistency in the application of one's principles so maybe our values are different.

Do you think it's alright to sell detailed advice on how to sin (in this case: non-marital, casual sex) even if it's bundled with otherwise sage, wholesome advice?
 

Roosh

Cardinal
God will judge my decision to continue selling that book. You are free to criticize or hate my decision on your own platform or web site. If I ask for personal/business advice in the future you may then share your opinion about my decisions here.
 

Wutang

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Rocha said:
wwtl said:
Athanasius said:
Yes, you should pursue debt-free, virgin, Christian women w/no tattoos who desire to submit. In fact, if a woman claims to be a Christian and mocks the ideal of this, then that alone is a red flag.

The ultimate red flag is if she actually chooses to marry someone with an account on any fornication forum.

That's the fallacy resulting from slut abundance: Assuming these exclusive goods are actually available to experienced fornicators and can be "pursued" by them.

Well, I have to say that you are the best troll ever on rfv.

Good job sir.

I thought this post was the most obvious sign that he's trolling.

wwtl said:
More suggestions adding to #101 to make things clear:

1. Replace the forum logo with a cross.
2. Put John 3:16 next to it.
3. Make sure to call out the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Having it in their face all the time will let the demons throw the biggest fit you've ever seen (bigger than June), but after then you never need to change the forum rules again.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74334-post-2034334.html#pid2034334
 

doc holliday

Pelican
Gold Member
Leonard D Neubache said:
N°6 said:
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Likewise don’t allow the Sparrows and the new Faith Militant in this forum tell you that you don’t need Game in church just because they happened to get married with their Game knowledge pre-2016. Look at a map showing divorce rates in the US. The southern Bible Belt has high rates.

...

See, this is what I'm referring to. We've had a bevy of members claiming that the "New Faith Militant" are denouncing "Game" entirely and calling for men to develop total amnesia on female behaviour. Oddly they never seem to quote any of these calls to blue-pilling on women because literally nobody is saying that.

Game is nothing but repackaged masculine virtue minus the social responsibility that comes with patriarchy. As if the young men of the West are doomed unless they learn how to access dozens and dozens of women as cumdumpsters.

It's proven to be a teenage concept in society riddled with delayed adulthood.

This is one area where I always felt that the so called Manosphere had gone of the rails. This notion that you have to game dozens upon dozens of women into bed in order to learn their true nature and then use this to finally find the woman of your dreams was one that I felt was complete nonsense. There isn't a whole lot good that comes from being highly promiscuous for either men or women and is a big part of the reason that everyone is mentally so screwed up these days. It's impossible to form bonds with anyone when everyone is looking for the next hole or pole to get with. Now we have a generation of dudes and ladies who banged the world and are now more lost than ever.

Game really is just a repackaged, bastardized name for masculine virtue, masculine charm and social gracefulness. The very fact that it had to be taught in it's bastardized form to a whole generation of men by strangers on the internet rather than by just going out and doing it, falling on your face, and eventually figuring it out and learning how to be a man who can meet a quality mate is a sad reality of the modern world today. Too many guys want to hang on to the notion that it's necessary to sleep with 100s of women to become a man when in reality a lot of guys who go down this path end up a broken mess. You need so called "game" to meet and screen for a high quality girl and to keep a marriage, no one is denying that like Leonard stated but too many guys, Roosh included, used it for the wrong purposes.
 

Geomann180

Ostrich
Gold Member
Days of Broken Arrows said:
If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

My central problem with the manosphere was that essentially it taught you deal and be successful with broken women. But a relationship with a broken women is broken.

I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G
 

Barron

Ostrich
Gold Member
doc holliday said:
Leonard D Neubache said:
N°6 said:
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Likewise don’t allow the Sparrows and the new Faith Militant in this forum tell you that you don’t need Game in church just because they happened to get married with their Game knowledge pre-2016. Look at a map showing divorce rates in the US. The southern Bible Belt has high rates.

...

See, this is what I'm referring to. We've had a bevy of members claiming that the "New Faith Militant" are denouncing "Game" entirely and calling for men to develop total amnesia on female behaviour. Oddly they never seem to quote any of these calls to blue-pilling on women because literally nobody is saying that.

Game is nothing but repackaged masculine virtue minus the social responsibility that comes with patriarchy. As if the young men of the West are doomed unless they learn how to access dozens and dozens of women as cumdumpsters.

It's proven to be a teenage concept in society riddled with delayed adulthood.

This is one area where I always felt that the so called Manosphere had gone of the rails. This notion that you have to game dozens upon dozens of women into bed in order to learn their true nature and then use this to finally find the woman of your dreams was one that I felt was complete nonsense. There isn't a whole lot good that comes from being highly promiscuous for either men or women and is a big part of the reason that everyone is mentally so screwed up these days. It's impossible to form bonds with anyone when everyone is looking for the next hole or pole to get with. Now we have a generation of dudes and ladies who banged the world and are now more lost than ever.

Game really is just a repackaged, bastardized name for masculine virtue, masculine charm and social gracefulness. The very fact that it had to be taught in it's bastardized form to a whole generation of men by strangers on the internet rather than by just going out and doing it, falling on your face, and eventually figuring it out and learning how to be a man who can meet a quality mate is a sad reality of the modern world today. Too many guys want to hang on to the notion that it's necessary to sleep with 100s of women to become a man when in reality a lot of guys who go down this path end up a broken mess. You need so called "game" to meet and screen for a high quality girl and to keep a marriage, no one is denying that like Leonard stated but too many guys, Roosh included, used it for the wrong purposes.

+1
This thread is going in the direction I didn't know I was hoping for.
 

RWIsrael

Woodpecker
Geomann180 said:
Days of Broken Arrows said:
If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

My central problem with the manosphere was that essentially it taught you deal and be successful with broken women. But a relationship with a broken women is broken.

I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G

You have oneitis. NEXT!

Seriously bro don't idolize the "one that got away". The past is in the past. You're different and so is she.
 
debeguiled said:
Those Mormons though, are sweet, humble, caring, hard working, and seriously not Christian.

And they dangle their daughters in front of you to rope you in.

Tread carefully, Teedub.

Don't be mesmerized by home made apple pie.

This girl is annoying, but she has some good information. Mormons have updated their approach for seeking out converts and they conceal a lot to get you on board.

Lately all the Mormon missionaries approaching me have been very cute, very female, and very young. We talk for a long time before church talk comes up. (Rapport building.) They play it off like they are just normal Christian folk (Fellow Believers!). They are polite at first, but really don't appreciate my pointed questions, especially when I don't let things slide.


@Pitbullowner

Maybe it's my upbringing as an ultra legalistic Church of Christ Christian as a child, but I naturally don't trust the mormon ideology ... Something just seems "off" about them.

Like you get this weird vibe about them.
Not a bad one per sae, but like... You sense they're missing something .
I liken it to a sheltered kid believing something wholeheartedly without questioning it or having life experience to do so and they take that youthful and contagious optimism and it flows into you. Very refreshing and energizing... But it doesn't sit well with me after I've got time to think introspectively about it later.

I usually get this same vibe when I talk to Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah Witness types too. Not that they're inherently bad people, but you get this feeling in your gut that tells you to tread carefully.


That's why I posted those links earlier:
https://www.amazon.com/Thought-Reform-Ps...B006M9RZQA

https://www.amazon.com/Destroying-World-...0805065113


http://www.apologeticsindex.org/7715-ide...l-totalism


People who truly want to seek the truth or want to do God's will. Are targets of those ostensibly "Christian" cults.

Those books talk about the characteristics of destructive cults. And its similarities to totalitarian regimes of Soviet Union and Maoist China.

Its a helpful guide for those who one wants to guide away from destructive cults.


 

VNvet

Kingfisher
Geomann180 said:
I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G

Don't. Life isn't a Hollywood movie.

I'm in almost exact similar situation as you. Broke it off to travel and fornicate with women. Did lots of traveling, not much fornicating, and became woke on the JQ.

Anyway, my point is that some things just aren't meant to be, so don't try to force something that wasn't part of your plan.
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
Thanks to all who've pointed out their objections to Mormonism/LDS doctrine etc and have reached out on PMs to look out for me. But a few things to note:

1) I'm not an idiot. I won't jump blindly into any life changing decisions without some very serious thought.
2) I know full well why they send out young, attractive women. It's a strategic decision on their part to bring in disillusioned young men.
3) From what I've gathered from research, Utah/US Mormans and ones elsewhere are are almost worlds apart in some aspects.
4) If I attend a few gatherings it doesn't mean I'm going to be baptised or anything like that, it's just a nice family gathering that feels good for my mental wellbeing at this stage compared to getting blind drunk.
5) I spoke at length with one of the British members and he certainly didn't believe when you die you go to a different planet. He spoke about atoms and the nature of consciousness. I suspect, like with a lot of the Joseph Smith stuff, there's a significant amount of picking and choosing. What I did like was how much they spoke about Jesus, and not Mary - which is what I saw in Poland with the Catholic and Orthodox guys I knew/know. Lots of taxi drivers and have pictures of Mary in their cabs etc.
6) I don't think some of the North American guys here know just *how* atheist Western Europe (bar rural Spain and Italy perhaps) is. If I told my mates I went to a 'normal' church, let alone a LDS one, they'd think I was insane. They'd probably be more comfortable if I came out as a heroin addict. Marriages/Christenings/Funerals aside, NONE of my white friends has been to church, ever. And that includes probably 90% of Facebook friends too. So a middle class white guy in Britain going to *any* kind of Christian event should be seen as a positive thing.
7) I know when I'm being proselytised to and when someone is genuinely just trying to talk to me and/or is trying to help me. There were genuinely nice people at this event that certainly weren't covert satanists, luciferians, freemasons, or whatever other conspiracy of subversion you subscribe to. Guys here can laugh at some of the 'out there' parts of certain religions, but I find much of the 'everything I don't like is a CIA operation/Talmudic subversion' to be just as 'out there'.
8) I'm not an idiot.

To all who read my above ramble, have a nice day and cheers for the well-meaning heads up. I know it comes from a good place. That includes you, Mr. Porsche fan... who, despite our exchanges over a certain football hooligan, remain my favourite sparring partner. God bless, and see you on another planet ;)
 

Teedub

Crow
Gold Member
Rush87 said:
Sadstate said:
Go ahead and get married you pussies, cause this is what's in store for you.

See the cluster of traits on the left hand side? You know, the ones that 'God' always preaches? Goodness, good father, good husband, loyalty, intellience? Women despise that, so enjoy literally being cucked for the narcissistic clowns on the right.

It's not degenerate society, it's not social media, it's not the left, women have always been like this. With hypergamy greater than ever, it's the worst time to abandon game.

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If you decide to get married in an age where whoredom is at an all time high, I wish you the best, but to me it's a mistake.

Yes he got banned, but this does need to be a valid discussion. I've been to church as a Catholic every week since I was a child, and what has to be understood (especially for anyone newly directed towards christianity as a result of this forum), is that modern day christianity has been compromised. The globohomo agenda, feminism, and cucking has spread through the ranks and we do have to retain what we know to be true as men, to reform this sacred sphere.

The reason the above knowledge is important, is not due to the faggot way the poster expressed it, but due to the realities the chart possesses. I have noticed a large chunk of new users who have little to no understanding of the way women operate, and that cannot be lost. I've seen posts such as "God will guide me and relationships will work themselves out". Not only is this lazy, but it's in direct contrast to the teachings of faith. God will only help those who help themselves, and the quest for truth (or in this case, the truth about women), is a major part of that.

What the above graph doesnt illustrate, is that the key to a long successful relationship lies in embodying both aspects of that infographic. Being muscular amd dominant doesnt come at the expense of being a good father and/or financially secure. These aren't conflicting attributes. I think there is scope to offer the information we already know into an all encompassing package or else risk men being burned and jaded by women.

Indeed. There's even a name for it: Muscular Christianity.

Muscular Christianity is a philosophical movement that originated in England in the mid-19th century, characterised by a belief in patriotic duty, discipline, self-sacrifice, manliness, and the moral and physical beauty of athleticism.
 

master

Chicken
Can someone bring me up to speed on what's going on? Why is game and travel archived? Is this the end to datasheets as we know it? Plz no trolling im too old for that shit.
This blasphemy rule is ok in my book, lots of forums lots of rules that you accept when you register and that's that.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
re mormonism:

I have some suspicions about it based on two factors. The first is that theres some documented friendliness between them and the deep state such as the CIA giving preferential treatment to Mormons such as them being basically auto-hires.

Second is that it's got a high level of elite acceptance. People like Romney, Ryan Gosling, and Evan McMullin are given prestige and power by the establishment in spite of being openly Mormon and espousing church values. People who openly espouse Catholic values like Huelskamp get targeted for destruction by the party machine (in his case they successfully astro-turfed a primary challenger).


As LDB said there's one sect in particular that gets all the flak and there's a reason for that.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
New post.

Haven't watched myself but Isaac Relyea is worth paying attention to.


Father Isaac used to be a Union Thug before becoming a priest. He's a legitimate alpha male in the way very few internet people are

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