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wwtl

Kingfisher
Captain Gh said:
Alpha F**** Beta B**** aka the FriendZone is now a Myth

You're one of the Most HardCore on here now... so let's agree to disagree!

And regarding everything you wrote about your interaction with that Chick... Wheater you realize it or not... you Ran Game! Created Attraction => Established Rapport => Then Started the Seduction Process but self consciously stopped it b4 intimacy and (possible) Last Minute Resistance came your way.

What you don't realize is that your extreme conviction in Christianity is an extremely powerful element creating Attraction & Rapport simultaneously... and instantly if talking to a chick who's religious. Very enticing to the Right Prospect!

You call it Faith I call it Game => Same Thing!

The same reason that if Roosh decides to Marry... he's guarenteed to have a smoke show... or a normy with extreme emotional kindness.

The same reason why Roosh will become a prominent figure in Christianity within 5 years... and the haterz will re-emerge. Déja Vue is what they call it!

You heard here First!

Honestly I wish I would have read about this Faith Game in those PUA books in my fornicator past. But they all focused on sin and escalating to sex as quickly as possible, because of "the way to a women's heart is through her vagina", which didn't sit well with me even back then - but I saw no other solutions. For the same reason these works were also following the mass screening approach, which works great in way too big degenerate cities, but not in my preferred environment: sparsely populated area with villages offering more traditionally-minded people - just not very many of them.

Regarding the "right prospect": My "convicted Christian" frame works pretty well on non-religious girls too, which together with non-practicing Christians make 97 % of population here (you see I don't live in rural Poland). Also "that chick" wasn't even close to being religious. Completely used to Western-style dating and fully expected the standard game we used to run on this forum from me as well. Only after I chose to not go through with it (to spare myself the drama), she started working on herself to become more religious. Beside that she also got into working out, is dressing better (more modest) and showing more mature behavior.

If the latter effects should somehow correlate with me (instead of being coincidental), then I'm glad to have a positive influence now, instead of leaving a trail of destruction by collecting notches.
 

Geomann180

Ostrich
Gold Member
RWIsrael said:
Geomann180 said:
Days of Broken Arrows said:
If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

My central problem with the manosphere was that essentially it taught you deal and be successful with broken women. But a relationship with a broken women is broken.

I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G

You have oneitis. NEXT!

Seriously bro don't idolize the "one that got away". The past is in the past. You're different and so is she.

You completely missed the point.

I'm not trying to get back with literally her, again. Nor am I trying to find an exact copy. I know that ship has sailed.

I want to get married and have kids and don't want to pass up over a marriagiable woman who wants the same just because I saw another skirt and wanted it.

VNvet said:
Don't. Life isn't a Hollywood movie.

I'm in almost exact similar situation as you. Broke it off to travel and fornicate with women. Did lots of traveling, not much fornicating, and became woke on the JQ.

Anyway, my point is that some things just aren't meant to be, so don't try to force something that wasn't part of your plan.

Alright, I didn't use my words well since two people misunderstood me and took what I said at face value.

G
 

Scrapper

Woodpecker
Geomann180 said:
RWIsrael said:
Geomann180 said:
Days of Broken Arrows said:
If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

My central problem with the manosphere was that essentially it taught you deal and be successful with broken women. But a relationship with a broken women is broken.

I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G

You have oneitis. NEXT!

Seriously bro don't idolize the "one that got away". The past is in the past. You're different and so is she.

You completely missed the point.

I'm not trying to get back with literally her, again. Nor am I trying to find an exact copy. I know that ship has sailed.

I want to get married and have kids and don't want to pass up over a marriagiable woman who wants the same just because I saw another skirt and wanted it.

VNvet said:
Don't. Life isn't a Hollywood movie.

I'm in almost exact similar situation as you. Broke it off to travel and fornicate with women. Did lots of traveling, not much fornicating, and became woke on the JQ.

Anyway, my point is that some things just aren't meant to be, so don't try to force something that wasn't part of your plan.

Alright, I didn't use my words well since two people misunderstood me and took what I said at face value.

G

What you said makes perfect sense, some cats just have heads thicker than a brick of Wisconsin cheddar cheese.
Even worse, he regurgitated some old ass cliche’d watered down game advice, to an OG like you.
Probably read in from one of your posts, while lurkin’, years ago.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I though the message was clear.

Point being, as of a year ago the forum would have roundly advised Geomann-6years not to "throw his life away" getting married so young, and it most likely would have turned out in the long run to be shitty advice.

This is important because there are a lot of Geomann-6years guys out there looking for a guiding light on whether to jump on the hedonism train or simply find a decent, young girl to marry while the age gap is low. This is a difficult discussion that me and several other members have been trying to talk sense on for quite some time, against a wall of guys who think they're all going to be Donald Trump by the time they're 40 and marry their own Melania, and those guys aren't shy about validating their opinion by strongly suggesting that anyone who doesn't follow suit is a loser or a simp. Moreover there's always one or two guys out of a hundred that beat the odds and (claim to have managed to) start a great family life at 40+.

What Geomann is saying is that if he had better advice rather than game advice then he'd likely be in a good marriage, God willing with a couple of sons already. More than a worthy trade for a few forgettable notches.
 

RWIsrael

Woodpecker
ScrapperTL said:
Geomann180 said:
RWIsrael said:
Geomann180 said:
Days of Broken Arrows said:
If this forum morphs into anything, it should be giving young men this advice. Get in on the ground level. It really doesn't get better. In fact it gets worse. Parents, teachers, and the media tell you that you "need experience." But the experiences you will get are like the ones I had: Losing a house, your wife, and your confidence.

They're selling you lies. As I've said many times here before, if you're a young guy odds are you already know the girl you should marry. You're not paying attention to her. She's the one who is sweet, not sexy. She's quiet, not outgoing. She's on the all-girls hall of her dorm in the study lounge. Seek her out, have lunch with her, and don't dump her for the sexy ones as some of us foolishly did. It'll pay off in the end.

My central problem with the manosphere was that essentially it taught you deal and be successful with broken women. But a relationship with a broken women is broken.

I already passed over the woman who in another timeline I was to marry. An 18 year old virgin German gal I met when I was 21. But I wanted more experience.

Now I'm trying to find her again. Six years later.

G

You have oneitis. NEXT!

Seriously bro don't idolize the "one that got away". The past is in the past. You're different and so is she.

You completely missed the point.

I'm not trying to get back with literally her, again. Nor am I trying to find an exact copy. I know that ship has sailed.

I want to get married and have kids and don't want to pass up over a marriagiable woman who wants the same just because I saw another skirt and wanted it.

VNvet said:
Don't. Life isn't a Hollywood movie.

I'm in almost exact similar situation as you. Broke it off to travel and fornicate with women. Did lots of traveling, not much fornicating, and became woke on the JQ.

Anyway, my point is that some things just aren't meant to be, so don't try to force something that wasn't part of your plan.

Alright, I didn't use my words well since two people misunderstood me and took what I said at face value.

G

What you said makes perfect sense, some cats just have heads thicker than a brick of Wisconsin cheddar cheese.
Even worse, he regurgitated some old ass cliche’d watered down game advice, to an OG like you.
Probably read in from one of your posts, while lurkin’, years ago.

It was a bit tongue in cheek as this is literally the advice he would get / give before the forum changed, however it still holds true depending on the context.
Thanks for clarifying Geomann.
 

N°6

Hummingbird
wwtl said:
Captain Gh said:
Alpha F**** Beta B**** aka the FriendZone is now a Myth

You're one of the Most HardCore on here now... so let's agree to disagree!

And regarding everything you wrote about your interaction with that Chick... Wheater you realize it or not... you Ran Game! Created Attraction => Established Rapport => Then Started the Seduction Process but self consciously stopped it b4 intimacy and (possible) Last Minute Resistance came your way.

What you don't realize is that your extreme conviction in Christianity is an extremely powerful element creating Attraction & Rapport simultaneously... and instantly if talking to a chick who's religious. Very enticing to the Right Prospect!

You call it Faith I call it Game => Same Thing!

The same reason that if Roosh decides to Marry... he's guarenteed to have a smoke show... or a normy with extreme emotional kindness.

The same reason why Roosh will become a prominent figure in Christianity within 5 years... and the haterz will re-emerge. Déja Vue is what they call it!

You heard here First!

Honestly I wish I would have read about this Faith Game in those PUA books in my fornicator past. But they all focused on sin and escalating to sex as quickly as possible, because of "the way to a women's heart is through her vagina", which didn't sit well with me even back then - but I saw no other solutions. For the same reason these works were also following the mass screening approach, which works great in way too big degenerate cities, but not in my preferred environment: sparsely populated area with villages offering more traditionally-minded people - just not very many of them.

Regarding the "right prospect": My "convicted Christian" frame works pretty well on non-religious girls too, which together with non-practicing Christians make 97 % of population here (you see I don't live in rural Poland). Also "that chick" wasn't even close to being religious. Completely used to Western-style dating and fully expected the standard game we used to run on this forum from me as well. Only after I chose to not go through with it (to spare myself the drama), she started working on herself to become more religious. Beside that she also got into working out, is dressing better (more modest) and showing more mature behavior.

If the latter effects should somehow correlate with me (instead of being coincidental), then I'm glad to have a positive influence now, instead of leaving a trail of destruction by collecting notches.

Before you condemn yourself, PUA came after Sex in the City (modelled after the homosexual hook up culture of NYC) and The Rules, which highlighted Girl Game. Faith Game was exterminated like feminists’ aborted babies because marriage became to be seen as a barrier to women’s university degrees, careers, travel and even missionary work. A young Christian man is deemed a wolf in sheep’s clothing by the fathers and youth pastors of young women - not because he risks devouring virgins’ virtue but impeding their studies.

The hook up culture came about because the most powerful heterosexual demographic - young women - adopted the lifestyles of homosexuals or held out for the diminishing numbers of economically attractive men until settling at 29.9.

Meanwhile the churches continued to condemn young men for fornicatory thoughts, porn use while teaching that marriage is the cure for burning in passion while not admitting to men that they’d not likely get married until their late 20s or 30s and certainly not to a virgin.

At the same time, churches began turning a blind eye to divorced women and women with bastards. Worse, some started to condemn men for not ‘stepping up’ like ‘real men’ by marrying them and thus enter a state of lifestyle adultery as traditional Christianity taught.

Show me a cuckservative and I will show you a man who deems fornication worse than committed adultery. John the Baptist wasn’t beheaded by a manipulative woman for calling out fornication but for calling out unlawful marriage.

The churches have no answer for the Pill, the blazing fires of the abortionist’s Topet that facilitate women delaying marriage so not to waste more youth or fertility on their husbands than is absolutely necessary. All they can do is to condemn the inevitable surplus of young single men.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
Polniy_Sostav said:
Enhanced Eddie said:
Trad is looking for a wife near where your own roots are.
So if a woman is trad she'll also look for a husband from near where her own roots are.

I respectfully disagree , if you were raised as a christian from early age yes , if not , then you can find someone from other horizons and build "together" a christian family.
There is actually nothing wrong with building a family with christian women from another country than your birth country.

Yeah, nothing fundamentally wrong or sinful about it, but just like marrying a woman of a different ethnicity, it's just sub ideal.

No matter where you choose to make a home for your family, you will live far from half of your relatives and your kids' grandparents.
 

N°6

Hummingbird
Enhanced Eddie said:
Polniy_Sostav said:
Enhanced Eddie said:
Trad is looking for a wife near where your own roots are.
So if a woman is trad she'll also look for a husband from near where her own roots are.

I respectfully disagree , if you were raised as a christian from early age yes , if not , then you can find someone from other horizons and build "together" a christian family.
There is actually nothing wrong with building a family with christian women from another country than your birth country.

Yeah, nothing fundamentally wrong or sinful about it, but just like marrying a woman of a different ethnicity, it's just sub ideal.

No matter where you choose to make a home for your family, you will live far from half of your relatives and your kids' grandparents.

It’s the reality of what’s happening in the churches. Here’s the relationship list of the men I was closest to during my church years. All these relationships were formed before the smartphone era and none involved women in their youth fellowship peer group.

Most ardent Christian friend - married to a Venezuelan

Christian friend who was a natural to both Christian and non Christian women - married to a Peruvian

My brother whose relationship with a Christian woman was stopped by a youth pastor with a mullet - married to an atheist after a long spell of inceldom. Traditional Christianity would have had the young Christians married.

Least physically attractive friend - married to and divorced by a divorcée his mother’s age. A fundamentalist church married them.
 

wwtl

Kingfisher
N°6 said:
wwtl said:
Honestly I wish I would have read about this Faith Game in those PUA books in my fornicator past. But they all focused on sin and escalating to sex as quickly as possible, because of "the way to a women's heart is through her vagina", which didn't sit well with me even back then - but I saw no other solutions. For the same reason these works were also following the mass screening approach, which works great in way too big degenerate cities, but not in my preferred environment: sparsely populated area with villages offering more traditionally-minded people - just not very many of them.

Regarding the "right prospect": My "convicted Christian" frame works pretty well on non-religious girls too, which together with non-practicing Christians make 97 % of population here (you see I don't live in rural Poland). Also "that chick" wasn't even close to being religious. Completely used to Western-style dating and fully expected the standard game we used to run on this forum from me as well. Only after I chose to not go through with it (to spare myself the drama), she started working on herself to become more religious. Beside that she also got into working out, is dressing better (more modest) and showing more mature behavior.

If the latter effects should somehow correlate with me (instead of being coincidental), then I'm glad to have a positive influence now, instead of leaving a trail of destruction by collecting notches.

Before you condemn yourself, PUA came after Sex in the City (modelled after the homosexual hook up culture of NYC) and The Rules, which highlighted Girl Game. Faith Game was exterminated like feminists’ aborted babies because marriage became to be seen as a barrier to women’s university degrees, careers, travel and even missionary work. A young Christian man is deemed a wolf in sheep’s clothing by the fathers and youth pastors of young women - not because he risks devouring virgins’ virtue but impeding their studies.

The hook up culture came about because the most powerful heterosexual demographic - young women - adopted the lifestyles of homosexuals or held out for the diminishing numbers of economically attractive men until settling at 29.9.

Meanwhile the churches continued to condemn young men for fornicatory thoughts, porn use while teaching that marriage is the cure for burning in passion while not admitting to men that they’d not likely get married until their late 20s or 30s and certainly not to a virgin.

At the same time, churches began turning a blind eye to divorced women and women with bastards. Worse, some started to condemn men for not ‘stepping up’ like ‘real men’ by marrying them and thus enter a state of lifestyle adultery as traditional Christianity taught.

Show me a cuckservative and I will show you a man who deems fornication worse than committed adultery. John the Baptist wasn’t beheaded by a manipulative woman for calling out fornication but for calling out unlawful marriage.

The churches have no answer for the Pill, the blazing fires of the abortionist’s Topet that facilitate women delaying marriage so not to waste more youth or fertility on their husbands than is absolutely necessary. All they can do is to condemn the inevitable surplus of young single men.

Our mainstream churches are so far gone, that they cannot condemn young men because nobody born after 1963 shows up there anymore. They have to merge parishes now, because they are simply dying out (and then get turned into mosques). The things you describe can't happen here, because there are zero marriages, zero children, just boomers trying to feel modern by hanging rainbow flags, anyone else is absent.

It was no accident, that I ended up in a "fringe" denomination with a large catchment area (while God put me close enough to that church, that it's almost walking distance). However while the parish still represents healthy family life with overly busy moms (some go beyond seven children), there is a gap between my generation (right between X and Y) and "the chick" (right between Y and Z). True millennials are almost entirely missing there as well. My impression is that the few who didn't fall astray buggered off to the even more niche Pentecostal denominations.

One thing I can already tell about the parish youth is that they got the full globohomo brainwashing, primarily not at our church, but outside of it. When the young woman from the example above explained her plans for the next decade, the term "family" didn't occur in it. Yet she did catch one-itis for a convicted super-traditional convert. Just think about the irony.
 
@N°6 @wwtl

Where the church failed. Then we need to ask God for help. I think aside from minorities like us. God would have to intervene. Man has failed. But there is nothing too difficult for God.

Intercessionary prayer therefore aside from what we are already doing is the only thing we can do.

And I am hopeful because Jesus saved Kanye.
 
@wwtl

Do you still beleive women after 30 are sterile? Inquiring minds with a half way understandable knowledge of human anatomy would like to know?
 

wwtl

Kingfisher
infowarrior1 said:
@N°6 @wwtl

Where the church failed. Then we need to ask God for help. I think aside from minorities like us. God would have to intervene. Man has failed. But there is nothing too difficult for God.

Intercessionary prayer therefore aside from what we are already doing is the only thing we can do.

And I am hopeful because Jesus saved Kanye.

I just came up with the reason, why our mainstream churches are literally dying. The Spirit pointed me towards their family counseling services, which by pure coincidence also sign off abortions. (Women here are required to attend counseling before they are allowed to abort.)

So what those mainstream churches sow there, they reap in their parishes: zero offspring. And it is obvious and clear what they get: Not just what's left after 20+ million abortions since the start of the sexual revolution, but literally nothing. Almost every newborn Christian now ends up in some fringe "sect" (their usual term for our minority denominations).

And I can assure you, that God intervenes. In the way described above and by picking "strange" converts and placing them where He needs them.
 
BlackFriar said:
@wwtl

Do you still beleive women after 30 are sterile? Inquiring minds with a half way understandable knowledge of human anatomy would like to know?

At least I think 5 years extra on average. But substantial risk of negative mutations.
 
wwtl said:
infowarrior1 said:
@N°6 @wwtl

Where the church failed. Then we need to ask God for help. I think aside from minorities like us. God would have to intervene. Man has failed. But there is nothing too difficult for God.

Intercessionary prayer therefore aside from what we are already doing is the only thing we can do.

And I am hopeful because Jesus saved Kanye.

I just came up with the reason, why our mainstream churches are literally dying. The Spirit pointed me towards their family counseling services, which by pure coincidence also sign off abortions. (Women here are required to attend counseling before they are allowed to abort.)

So what those mainstream churches sow there, they reap in their parishes: zero offspring. And it is obvious and clear what they get: Not just what's left after 20+ million abortions since the start of the sexual revolution, but literally nothing. Almost every newborn Christian now ends up in some fringe "sect" (their usual term for our minority denominations).

And I can assure you, that God intervenes. In the way described above and by picking "strange" converts and placing them where He needs them.

@wwtl

I know. I wish they would repent. But alas. We can only ask God to lead them to repentance.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Of course they do.

But these things aren’t had rules, they’re bell curve averages. Some of these things are exceptions that prove the rule.
 

Rush87

Hummingbird
Every personal case I've seen of a woman in her late 30s and older having kids has resulted in a baby with down syndrome or autism.
 

wwtl

Kingfisher
d said:
BlackFriar said:
Contrary to popular beleif on this forum: women can and DO get pregnant up into their middle 40s.

Have fun with your kid's birth defects if you want to prove it just to spite someone.

I only ever saw post-wall women being so concerned about post-wall fertility. I think I brought this up last week or so and promptly got a neutral rep.
 
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