New round of restrictions and mandates in (2023-24)
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I think this culture and civic religion of democracy had made Westerners too agreeable; in the non-Western world (with certain exceptions) whole countries resort to war or coups or some other explicit conflict to resolve their issues, but here some politician gets cancelled over some fake charges and it's enough to take the steam off a movement. There might also be a precedent of the Confederate States' defeat in 1865 that left a strong ingrained behavior in succeeding generations of Americans, to literally condition most people against the idea of secession and civil war. Otherwise I think there is enough chance of a successful red-state secession or civil war in terms of firepower, manpower and logistics. The entire front of the Ukraine war is just as long as the coastlines of Georgia and the Carolinas combined. Denver, Salt Lake City and Las Vegas can easily be desert fortresses in the west.
The average normie American will never be willing to shed blood for freedom and truth unless they truly question the deeply held beliefs they have about "democracy," "rule of law," "property rights," and other abstract concepts that they regard to make more sense than the God of the Bible.
Good catch. I put a disclaimer on my post.
So far it might as well just be fear mongering. But... what if we actually see a deadly variant, one that justifies the mandates and the lock downs. What if we start seeing people around us and love ones dying, what would you do then ? Whether it's from a weakened immune system from the previous round of vaccinations or a truly new dangerous variant, it really wouldn't matter as the media is in control of the narrative.
To back what I'm saying, the cdc and the who defined 4 categories of variants on their website, the most dangerous being a "Variant of high consequence". We haven't seen the category 4 one yet, see for yourselves
www.cdc.gov
I don't want to come off as pessimist, just want us to have a realistic outlook in order to plan accordingly.
To back what I'm saying, the cdc and the who defined 4 categories of variants on their website, the most dangerous being a "Variant of high consequence". We haven't seen the category 4 one yet, see for yourselves
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
www.cdc.gov
I don't want to come off as pessimist, just want us to have a realistic outlook in order to plan accordingly.
Sounds like you actually believe this is a real thing.
Nothing justifies "mandates" or "lock downs" as they have no effect on the contagion.So far it might as well just be fear mongering. But... what if we actually see a deadly variant, one that justifies the mandates and the lock downs. What if we start seeing people around us and love ones dying, what would you do then ? Whether it's from a weakened immune system from the previous round of vaccinations or a truly new dangerous variant, it really wouldn't matter as the media is in control of the narrative.
To back what I'm saying, the cdc and the who defined 4 categories of variants on their website, the most dangerous being a "Variant of high consequence". We haven't seen the category 4 one yet, see for yourselves
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC provides credible COVID-19 health information to the U.S.
I don't want to come off as pessimist, just want us to have a realistic outlook in order to plan accordingly.
If we see an actual pandemic then I would recommend, as always, remaining calm and resisting Globohomo.
No, but I don't want to get caught off guard. When the mandates first came in 2021 some of the most redpilled guys I knew gave in and got the jab. They never expected to have to show proof of vaccination to enter a gym or keep their jobs.
It's easier to remain calm when what you expected to happen is what actually happens.
Again, the WHO has 4 categories of variants on their website and so far we've only seen 3 out of the 4 categories. There is a reason why this whole covid narrative thing is still ongoing, I don't think we've seen the conclusion of it all yet.
Foolsgo1d
Crow
They weren't redpilled, they were afraid and couldn't get around it. Think about that character in the first matrix movie who betrayed the humans to the machines. He wanted to eat steak and not that porridge crap they were feeding them.
All it took was a little pressure applied by the state.
Read this and the book mentioned;
Disobey And Live – Maui Fire Barricades | Armstrong Economics
There are a number of factors that do not add up regarding the Maui fires. I am refraining from speculating, but based on the facts, the government allowed
www.armstrongeconomics.com
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I believe what is happening is the vast majority of people are normalised to what society was and you were brought up to live within that framework. Now the rules have changed and people are unable or un-willing to adapt and thus are susceptible. For years you saw living off grid as a waste of time but how do you live in a society that actively targets you from the top down?
All of a sudden the goalposts move and you are trapped. The elite know this and use their political and corporate lackeys to push it. In the end their lackeys are the ones targeted.
We will have to wait and see for late september and early october to see if they really will push it hard this time around.
There are no "variants". It's all made up. But yes, obviously they will claim there is a new "variant" that will justify new mandates. They are doing that continuously.
As the new Eris Covid variant spreads across the world, here’s what we know so far
EG.5 or "Eris," now the dominant variant in the United States, is currently thought to have the same risk level as existing variants.
I call them "scare-iants", because that is all they are meant to do...scare people into compliance with totalitarianism.There are no "variants". It's all made up. But yes, obviously they will claim there is a new "variant" that will justify new mandates. They are doing that continuously.
As the new Eris Covid variant spreads across the world, here’s what we know so far
EG.5 or "Eris," now the dominant variant in the United States, is currently thought to have the same risk level as existing variants.www.cnbc.com
Viruses mutate, especially the flu virus, that's why I never get a flu shot. By the time you inject the vaccine, the flu already mutated into new variants, so the vaccine is pointless. As for "Covid," it is the flu (coronavirus) so I believe it mutates into new variants, but is ridiculously overblown and overhyped to make more money and get more temporary power and control for those in charge.
Caduceus
Hummingbird
The official term is "martial law."
"Lockdown" was a less scary word they used, making it seem like it wasn't really martial law, when in reality it was.
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I'm quite sure nothing will happen. Next to some rumours and counternarrative engagement, and some election fuss about, Trump will protect us against further lockdowns!
The counterpropagandists are all over it, Alex Jones' Infowars is full of "we won't bow again for the coming lockdowns". Tells me enough.
And logically why should they?
Covid was an event like 9/11. We didn't get planes crashing in buildings every year.
Part of the plan is, that it will always need to feel fresh, maybe in 4 years, another new fresh disease, or something with killer mosquitos or so, or ticks, or a new aids.
The goal is not Corona, it's a means to an end; building shared international narratives. One world, one society, we need to believe in it. All nations, people united against, evil viruses and dictators.
Zelensky works a lot better, from day 1 everyone hated Putin, and nobody cares about 221 Trillion given to Jews there.
Same with the Islam terrorists almost everyone bought that as well.
From an internationalist propaganda perspective rebranding the flu to Corona wasn't that great, quite divisive. For quite a large group trust didn't really grow in the "science" and our democracy.
They should just stick to wars. Always works.
The counterpropagandists are all over it, Alex Jones' Infowars is full of "we won't bow again for the coming lockdowns". Tells me enough.
And logically why should they?
Covid was an event like 9/11. We didn't get planes crashing in buildings every year.
Part of the plan is, that it will always need to feel fresh, maybe in 4 years, another new fresh disease, or something with killer mosquitos or so, or ticks, or a new aids.
The goal is not Corona, it's a means to an end; building shared international narratives. One world, one society, we need to believe in it. All nations, people united against, evil viruses and dictators.
Zelensky works a lot better, from day 1 everyone hated Putin, and nobody cares about 221 Trillion given to Jews there.
Same with the Islam terrorists almost everyone bought that as well.
From an internationalist propaganda perspective rebranding the flu to Corona wasn't that great, quite divisive. For quite a large group trust didn't really grow in the "science" and our democracy.
They should just stick to wars. Always works.
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This is a huge stumbling block to people who would otherwise embrace Christianity, asking them to believe in tons of other stuff too, for example that all science is wrong and a lie. That isn't theology, or a settled matter in the Orthodox Church, it's an opinion. Seems like a big stumbling block to put in people's way.
I am new here. Is this more or less a universal belief here, to reject the germ theory of disease? Is this something I should avoid mentioning in an Orthodox Church (for example "Covid shots are pointless because the virus mutates too quickly for a vaccine to make any difference")?
I read parts of the thread you linked, thank you. I was looking for some rock solid reasoning to debunk the entire scientific method of observe --> test --> draw conclusions. Technology doesn't work by magic, it works because engineers and scientists understand how it works and how to build it. Human beings have been given a lot of knowledge about the world around us. What is the value of getting into these fake controversies of religion vs. science? These aren't matters of faith, as they have nothing to do with Christianity. I can almost hear our enemies laughing.
I assume I am not going to be popular or last long here, but this just seems like a really good way to help our enemies to make our faith and our positions look ridiculous, mixing things like flat-earth, fake-moon-landing, viruses-are-fake, etc. with the actual truth of our religion, to make us look ridiculous.
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It's the part before that matters. It's how you frame the question. The first thing you do is form a question. There are an incredible amount of assumptions implicit to the intial question that "science " (as it is popularly known ) is blind to.
The blindness is showing now after the ridiculousness of covid. Look up exosomes and terrain theory. It starts with a different question than virus theory. The scientific method cannot see outside of the initial question (ie. the frame)
In short, pretty much everything we know in "science" is based on an approximation, or a model. We have accepted that the model IS reality. It is not. It's still just a model that represents reality. It can be practical but it is not reality.