New round of restrictions and mandates in (2023-24)

Nordwand said:
Both the national and local news this evening were pushing the narrative hard - my sense of humour is rapidly beginning to fail.
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It's been years since I even looked at this stuff beyond having to glance at the latest "news" for half a second when my web browser launches.

Why even consume it when you know it's likely to be fake, and there's no way to confirm if anything you see ever happened? Seems like a huge waste of time and useless cause of stress.

I get all my news filtered through this forum, and a very few other sources. Even that could be fake since you never know if a particular link or poster is real or not. All I really believe is real is what I know from my faith, what I see with my own eyes, or hear directly from a trusted person preferably face to face.
 
Ave_Maria said:
It's been years since I even looked at this stuff beyond having to glance at the latest "news" for half a second when my web browser launches.

Why even consume it when you know it's likely to be fake, and there's no way to confirm if anything you see ever happened? Seems like a huge waste of time and useless cause of stress.

I get all my news filtered through this forum, and a very few other sources. Even that could be fake since you never know if a particular link or poster is real or not. All I really believe is real is what I know from my faith, what I see with my own eyes, or hear directly from a trusted person preferably face to face.
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Why watch mainstream news? I think the old adage "Forewarned, forearmed" covers it. Fake or not, it is what the vast majority believes, and if it goes contrary to my interests, then I want to know about it.
 
Every picture you've ever seen of a virus is essentially fraudulent, but none so fraudulent as the ones you see on the news that are one hundred percent fictitious computer generated images. The very best cryoEM images in the world still produce images which look absolutely nothing like whatever it is you believe a virus looks like. As to variants and viruses in general, anyone who has never read the book Dissolving Illusions really should. What you believe about COVID and viruses and vaccines today is highly influenced by what you believe about all of the viruses and vaccines of the past. If you read the book, which is very well researched and written, you may very well see just how fragile that foundational knowledge is. So called variants are the best unpaid salesmen on the planet.
 
BasilSeal said:
As to variants and viruses in general, anyone who has never read the book Dissolving Illusions really should.
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Dissolving Illusions: Disease, vaccines and the forgotten history By Suzanne Humphries, Roman Bystrianyk (audiobook) - download mp3 - 14.5 h



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Co-authors of "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History", Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk, talk in depth about the history of disease and vaccination, primarily in relation to smallpox and polio, and how these diseases actually affect afflicted populations. Paralysis has many causes. Do childhood diseases serve a useful purpose? Does vaccination itself cause disease? Herd immunity is explained.
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BasilSeal said:
Every picture you've ever seen of a virus is essentially fraudulent, but none so fraudulent as the ones you see on the news that are one hundred percent fictitious computer generated images. The very best cryoEM images in the world still produce images which look absolutely nothing like whatever it is you believe a virus looks like. As to variants and viruses in general, anyone who has never read the book Dissolving Illusions really should. What you believe about COVID and viruses and vaccines today is highly influenced by what you believe about all of the viruses and vaccines of the past. If you read the book, which is very well researched and written, you may very well see just how fragile that foundational knowledge is. So called variants are the best unpaid salesmen on the planet.
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"Crude inoculations against Smallpox were used in the 1700s and through the 1800s. Death rates remained high despite periods of mandatory vaccination until sanitation measures began to be employed in the late 1800s. The Smallpox story is discussed in great detail.

Most infectious diseases declined markedly in the late 1800s and especially during the early decades of the 1900s before vaccines had even been invented for most of them. This was due to vast improvements in sanitation, sewage systems, better water, plumbing, the gasoline engine enabling trucking and better transportation, electricity, better farming and nutrition, refrigeration, and higher standard of living."


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BarrontheTigercat said:
And remember, Putin played along with 9-11 just as the Soviets played along with the fake Moon landing propaganda.
Personally, I feel that Tucker is a CIA employee (that's my personal view) and so him signalling this fits the bill.
It seems very high stakes but I'd guess that the question is whether they are ready for a new big crisis and assaults on liberty, or whether they feel they need to take a breather for a while. I understand from elsewhere that 2026 is when they are planning to ramp things up massively again.
This is all very speculative, but I think its entirely possible.
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Exactly. Let's remember that the powers that be like to apply Lenin's maxim about managing the opposition. Trump and other political figures surrounding him are just part of the narrative, unwittingly or not. Ditto for most other "patriotic" politicians in other countries. Please note how they studiously avoid talking about the really important issues of our time in any direct and profound way (the way the governments coerced the populace to be injected with unknown chemicals, the excess mortality that has coincided with the injection campaigns, all based on a lie, the environmental destruction, the real one not the climate change joke, etc.). They are designed and put in the positions of power to steer the energies of the people away from any meaningful action to oppose the NWO.

In reference to new mandates and lockdowns: I think they are testing the waters and are planning to make a rehearsal of 2020 on steroids in the near future. They think too many escaped relatively unscathed the last time. They need to inject more and bankrupt more, too many still have properties outside the cities, can maintain their cars, are still healthy, etc. How and when will it take place? I don't know, but I am afraid they are tightening the screws so this time the charade can run even more smoothly and can harm even more people. The lie was never destroyed in the minds of the populace, they are counting on it so we must prepare at the individual level and pray for strength because we will need it.

Moreover, it's my personal theory that any "rehearsal" of 2020 will take place under a "right wing" government not only in US but in many countries if not most. They know most peoples are sick and tired of the politicians they have and they need people's trust in their governments and hence people's unwitting(?) acquiescence to their demise. In order to pull it off they need to regain the trust of a critical mass of the people. Therefore I think Trump and other "patriot" figures in certain countries will be elected and charged to start the nightmare again...

Prayers for discernment are more necessary than ever.
 
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Maddox said:
There ARE variants. They just aren't as dangerous as what they're claiming to be.
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Variants of a cold/flu.

Maddox said:
But to say the whole thing is made, that there is no coronavirus at all, is ridiculous for many reasons. Heck, there are even whistleblower doctors and scientists who have looked at this virus under a microscope and said it's been engineered.
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Sure, there is a coronavirus. There always was. Nothing new. The "lab leak" was a hoax designed to:

A: Antagonize China (when the Democrats suddenly decided to pivot on their China-friendly policy)
B: Make it sound more dangerous and thereby justifying the lockdowns and mandates

Maddox said:
If the whole thing was "made up", they could've launched this campaign decades ago instead of waiting until now to do it. But they needed to wait until now because they needed the technology to be able to construct a virus that would act differently than your typical flu.
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No, they couldn't. They tried though. Remember the "swine flu"-hoax which was essentially Covid 1.0?

What they needed was total control of the airwaves and also a way to keep people hooked on fear porn 24/7. They have that now through the internet and social media.
 
Aldebaran said:
Variants of a cold/flu.
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I don't pretend to know if it was the flu virus that was changed or a Coronavirus, but something was changed which causes long-Covid or long-flu symptoms in people. I know people who got that and suffered those symptoms...and no, they never got the jab.

Aldebaran said:
No, they couldn't. They tried though. Remember the "swine flu"-hoax which was essentially Covid 1.0?

What they needed was total control of the airwaves and also a way to keep people hooked on fear porn 24/7. They have that now through the internet and social media.
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They've had control over the airwaves and the Internet long before the swine flu came out.
 
Frussell said:
What do y'all think about the lack of flu deaths in relation to the alleged COVID deaths?
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Covid IS the flu.

Maddox said:
I know people who got that and suffered those symptoms...and no, they never got the jab.
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Nocebo effects are just as powerful as placebo effects. Maybe much more powerful.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Nocebo Effect - PubMed

A growing body of evidence is emerging for a phenomenon known as the nocebo effect. This is when a person is conditioned to expect a negative response, or to anticipate negative effects from an experience. These findings highlight the importantance of effective communication with patients and...
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Maddox said:
They've had control over the airwaves and the Internet long before the swine flu came out.
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The "swine flu" came out in 2009. Social media was in its very infancy, and very few people had smart phones.

Most people didn't even use the internet on a daily basis. It was basically another time.
 
The problem with your thesis is that SARS and MERS (versions of coronavirus) were real and since they weren't used as propaganda, or the time wasn't right, they weren't a big deal. But they are "real". As a result, I don't think it's good that you are throwing out the baby with the bath water and claiming that sarscov2 isn't real. It is. It's just part of a propaganda campaign, as we know.

I like your post on the nocebo effect, I agree, it is likely more significant in its effects than placebo, I would guess as well. Climate hysteria/alarmism is a large scale type of this effect.
 
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