New rules about black pill and emotional posting

Roosh

Cardinal
As the collective Christian faith on the forum grows, we can continue to move away from secular ways and paradigms. Starting today, this will include a ban on black pilled and emotionally negative posting. The forum will no longer tolerate posts that lead other members to feelings of despair or that comes from emotional states of depression, sadness, or pessimism. Despair or despondency is not of God so we will not accept that on the forum.

Specific rule change

I added this clarification to rule number three under the heading "Don't be a low-quality poster":
Don't demoralize or dispirit other members through black pill or negative posting. Don't spread hopelessness or use the forum to vent negative emotional feelings or states. Don't be a single-purpose member or shill who pushes an agenda mainly about an individual or pet cause.

Read the full rules here.

What is black pill posting?


To be black pilled is to believe that all is lost, nothing can be done, the world is falling apart, there is no true good, everyone is evil, the wolves are about to devour us, and ultimately, that God will not deliver our souls from harm. It is often a pessimistic outlook combined with negative emotions that should not be confused with merely posting bad news in a logical manner. Examples...

Black pill: "There are no good women out there. All of them are sluts."
Better: "A lot of good women have chosen a life of sin. You will have to be patient and use discernment."

Black pill: "The churches are all corrupt. We're close to the end of times."
Better: "Check out your local ROCOR or Antiochian church."

Black pill: "They just took Georgia. There was never any point to voting. We're all doomed!"
Better: "They just took Georgia." [It's acceptable to simply state or share bad news.]

Black pill: "Donald Trump didn't talk about Jeffrey Epstein today. He must be a pedophile too."
Better: "I'm disappointed that Trump is not more aggressive about taking down the pedophiles."

The black pill cannot be disconnected from the person. In other words, your mental state and constitution determines what kind of poster you will be. If your posts are consistently black pilled over a period of time then that means you are black pilled and have to do some self-examination before the Lord to heal your depression or secular dependencies with the aid of the Church. The forum can help give you advice on this path but we are not a therapy center or support group. (I also consider it black pilled if your post for help, receive sound advice, and then refuse all that advice to continue posting negatively about your problems.) The forum is not a place for you to vent or blow off steam. You will have to fix your spiritual problems before you get involved on the forum or else you will rack up suspensions until you get banned.

It's okay to post about bad news for we do not conceal reality, but that bad news should be logically stated without crying about the state of this world. Ultimately, this rule change is aimed to weed out non-believers or Christians of weak faith who are bringing harm or distractions to the fellowship we have here.
 
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Dream Medicine

Robin
Gold Member
Excellent decision and good detail in the explanation.

 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
In Catholic school, the nuns used to call black pill talk being a "Negative Nellie." They tried to get you to look on the positive side of things. "Count your blessings." "For every downside, there is an upside you're not seeing."

They were right, at least according to a study published about ten years ago. I bookmarked the article about it, which was titled "Confidence drives mobility, not merit."

What this means is that the more positive you are, the better off you're likely to be. So reading negative post after negative post does no one any good.

Anyway, the article has since disappeared from the Web, but I found it on the Wayback Machine, for anyone who is interested. Here is the link.
 

Salocin

Robin
I respect your decision, and agree being overly negative is unhealthy.

I do wish to express a couple of thoughts which may be considered blackpill, though. If this is the consensus I will refrain from sharing them here. I would also greatly appreciate any counter points I can ponder to become more positive in my outlook.

The Holy Bible explicitly states as a Christian in this life you will be hated and persecuted. It states to reject this world, and says simply to endure until the end. Does Genesis not state we are cursed due to the actions of Adam and Eve? Until we die, or if Jesus returns during our life, my understanding is we should expect things to be pretty bad. Of course the Good News is Jesus Christ has saved us, and one day will return so not all is lost. However, that good news is not for this life. We are told to simply endure until the end.

Is this not a corrupt, fallen world ruled by Satan? Was John the Baptist not imprisoned and beheaded? The Bible is filled with stories of Christians being jailed, fed to lions, and other assorted atrocities. Obviously we all know Jesus himself was tortured and crucified.

The Bible states the end times will be nightmarish. I don't know if the end is nigh, but I pray that they are. My eyes and ears are telling me things are getting worse. I do not love the world, and I don't think they'll ever get better until Jesus returns.

That all sounds pretty blackpill to me, but am I wrong? Is this not what is stated in the Bible? Are we not in living in a sick world where vile, depraved people revel in their sin?

As I stated before, I know God loves us. I know Jesus died so we could be saved. I have faith, and thank God everyday for my blessings. One should not dwell on the negative I agree. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

But in my possibly (probably) misguided opinion a Christian viewpoint on this world should inherently be blackpill with the caveat that eventually things will get better. But until the return of Jesus Christ himself there is nothing to do but endure life struggling against our sinful nature in a horrid, fallen world.

I ask if I am misguided to please help me look at things appropriately. I will continue to pray God Almighty will give me understanding if it is his will.

Thank you.
 
Not sure if it's worth sharing my opinion.

I agree with Roosh somewhat, but for completely different reasons. I disagree with his reasoning-ish. I personally believe most of the blackpilling anti-Trumping is shilling/glowie/fedposting. Thus should be disregarded for that reason. Similarly, if they are too emotional and cannot think clearly, then they would just spam the same thing over and over(not necessarily the same posters posting the same thing, but same themes across multiple posters)

While I agree with positivity and keeping morale high, I disagree that we should be shielded from negativity or despair. To some degree, it is just words on a screen, so if it affects us badly, I believe it's up to us to retain emotional control. However, I am not Christian enough to know what God would want or what is ideal for the situation/situations in general.

Edit: I know it was many years ago, and the context was different, but I think one of the threads here, people didn't like complaining/negativity. Roosh rightly pointed out they were complaining about complaining, and said something along the lines of him being the king of complaining(forgot the exact phrase/term). Would you disagree with this now?

Edit 2: Clarification on the rule. Would say, some of the posts on Complaints on donald trump thread count as blackpilling? Criticism on coronavirus policy thread?
 
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What about "optimistic black pill" posting? I.e. society is fucked, but there is a silver lining in the black clouds that can be exploited? Brutal realism in other words.
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
The forum is not a place for you to vent or blow off steam

Great. There's goes my Friday night ice-cream-induced fits of rage here. :laughter:

In seriousness, the world can be depressing enough. I'm a pretty stoic hard head but it can get to me sometimes too. This forum should be a place to leave that behind, re-charge while finding wisdom and sound advice, connecting with other men. I enjoy it most here when it's like that.

weed out non-believers or Christians of weak faith who are bringing harm or distractions to the fellowship we have here.

Perhaps you meant weed out non-believers but guide those of weak faith to stronger places, if possible?
 

AnonymousBosch

Crow
Gold Member
One thing I like about walking with Christ is that he doesn't let you delude yourself with falsehoods and constantly reveals to you the truth behind your actions.

If you all want to pat yourselves on the back and believe some false narrative that banning any contrary discussion to your own viewpoint comes from a place of strength, rather than extreme emotional fragility now that the possibility of suffering under socialism is rearing its head, so be it. True spiritual maturity would embrace with joy the possibility of suffering, but the manosphere taught men to be psychosexually and psychologically immature, so rather than walk the Golden Mean in Christ, the only place it can really end up in is, sadly, religious fundamentalism: some weird mixture of Traditionalist Religion Larping - with Trump, not Christ, as your Saviour, despite Jesus' repeated warnings about putting your faith in the Princes of the World, particularly one who, unlike the Pope, is on the public record as supporting gay marriage, has packed his administration with jews and sodomites, continued the massacre of Syrian Christians, and whose own daughter prayed to a Jewish antichrist on the eve of the election, and whose particular religion requires the destruction of America to set the stage for their Messiah - the AntiChrist - who they believe is on the verge of a return.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/45...lgrimage-to-lubavitcher-rebbes-grave-praying/

All of this means a Billionaire is somehow 'chosen by God'.

Sorry, but you're all crazy, and anyone with a serious interest in God needs to stay very, very far away from this place.
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
You've got to be kidding me. Honest question: is this pedantic high and mightiness supposed to serve a purpose?

If you all want to pat yourselves on the back and believe some false narrative that banning any contrary discussion to your own viewpoint comes from a place of strength, rather than extreme emotional fragility now that the possibility of suffering under socialism is rearing its head, so be it.

You seem to struggle with discerning between appropriate public vs private conversation. What would make you think anyone should bloviate their terror or depression to a group of Christian men who try to better themselves? What would make you think they're obligated to pander to it instead of challenging it? Wrap this up in whatever high-handed language all you want but it doesn't make any of what you're saying more Biblical.

Roosh hasn't banned private conversations, individual or group, on the topic and many are willing to help each other with their problems in open threads. We even made such a thread about the blackpill!

You're confused and it's becoming more clear that you take advantage of people through emotional manipulation.

True spiritual maturity would embrace with joy the possibility of suffering, but the manosphere taught men to be psychosexually and psychologically immature, so rather than walk the Golden Mean in Christ, the only place it can really end up in is, sadly, religious fundamentalism: some weird mixture of Traditionalist Religion Larping - with Trump, not Christ, as your Saviour,

You should talk less and look more. This isn't a forum for the manosphere. Many of us who are now here have no part nor ever had a part in the "manosphere." Does anyone even use that term anymore?

Has anyone said Trump is going to save them or could?

unlike the Pope

Condemns people using Trump as a means to God, then talks about the Pope. Seems legit.

All of this means a Billionaire is somehow 'chosen by God'.

Please point to anywhere on this forum where anyone, in seriousness, said Trump was "chosen by God." I'll wait.

Sorry, but you're all crazy, and anyone with a serious interest in God needs to stay very, very far away from this place.

This takes the cake and is grossly womanly behavior. Just have to get in those last shots before you ragequit, right?

There's no need for you to come here and warn people other than to get off on your own sense of moral superiority. Who are you to condemn everyone here as not having a serious interest in God? Who are you to pretend you can see into their motives like this?

You're a charlatan and a wolf in sheep's clothing.
 

redpillage

Ostrich
Gold Member
One thing I like about walking with Christ is that he doesn't let you delude yourself with falsehoods and constantly reveals to you the truth behind your actions.

If you all want to pat yourselves on the back and believe some false narrative that banning any contrary discussion to your own viewpoint comes from a place of strength, rather than extreme emotional fragility now that the possibility of suffering under socialism is rearing its head, so be it. True spiritual maturity would embrace with joy the possibility of suffering, but the manosphere taught men to be psychosexually and psychologically immature, so rather than walk the Golden Mean in Christ, the only place it can really end up in is, sadly, religious fundamentalism: some weird mixture of Traditionalist Religion Larping - with Trump, not Christ, as your Saviour, despite Jesus' repeated warnings about putting your faith in the Princes of the World, particularly one who, unlike the Pope, is on the public record as supporting gay marriage, has packed his administration with jews and sodomites, continued the massacre of Syrian Christians, and whose own daughter prayed to a Jewish antichrist on the eve of the election, and whose particular religion requires the destruction of America to set the stage for their Messiah - the AntiChrist - who they believe is on the verge of a return.

https://forward.com/fast-forward/45...lgrimage-to-lubavitcher-rebbes-grave-praying/

All of this means a Billionaire is somehow 'chosen by God'.

Sorry, but you're all crazy, and anyone with a serious interest in God needs to stay very, very far away from this place.
AB - you need to get off the soy juice my friend. Maybe have your test levels checked - LOL :)

Seriously mate, what you are posting is pure hyperbole as you are judging an entire community by what effectively is your own solipsistic perception of reality. It sounds like you're an educated and intelligent man but based on years of commentary it's clear that you have an immature and short temper. Worst yet you are prone to aggressively lash out at people who differ in opinion. Get over yourself or you may end up alone and without any alleys in an hour of need.

BTW, no need to reaffirm what a great and wonderful even keeled person you are and how everyone loves you. Plus based on your own statements you shouldn't even be reading or replying to this comment, at least assuming you are following your own advice.
 
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