New wealthiest man in the world, a Conservative blue-collar Spaniard

[Going strong]

Also, I am quite sure that, even if you are into the fashion business, you can find exclusively non-gay designers. You just have to reject the candidacy (CVs) of faggots, there is no obligation of hiring gays, even in the fashion world. Just discriminate when hiring, that's all.

We get it, you're not-gay and super masculine. But I'm still trying to figure out the point of this thread. Just because this old provincial recluse you've anointed as some alt-right ubermensch is successful doesn't mean all those other guys who made an enormous amount of wealth suddenly lost theirs.

Yeah, yeah, all these corporate big wigs are closet fags/race miscegenators/globalist vampires or whatever people are obsessed with at the moment, but how is slinging arrows at the most successful people doing anything for you? After all, I thought this forum was about self-improvement, not fringe politics.

:-/

I had a quick look at your profile. Only thread you ever created is about a leftist faggot (but, you consider Obama had a right to nominate him...) nominated by Obama to massively fuck up (what's left of) American conservative civilization ( https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-54505.html ). Why am I not surprised?

Quoting you: "After all, I thought this forum was about self-improvement, not fringe politics".

Who are you to determine what this forum should be about? :dodgy:

Whether you like it or not, the owner of this forum, Roosh, is profoundly interested in politics (what you hauntingly call "fringe politics"), is himself de facto a leader of the Alt-Right, and as such is targeted by Hillary and the likes.
Couple of days ago, Roosh made a video (go watch it on the Trump thread), endorsing the Donald ("a fringe politician", you'd call him?). So, yeah, his forum focuses a lot on politics, accept it or find another forum.

 

[Going strong]

This thread is non-news.

He's not the richest man in the world, and no one knows anything about him.

Biggest takeaway from this topic: Going Strong loves allegedly conservative Spanish people, and hates "nerds."

No, man, Biggest takeaway from this topic is that through hard-work, perseverance and self-confidence, one can become the richest man in the world. This conservative (because he is a conservative, he didn't give any money to Hollywood charities, I need no further proof) Spaniard worked hard for ten years in his living room, sewing, with his wife, clothes, then he became millionaire, and soon after billionaire... That's the biggest takeaway from this topic: hard work pays off. Second takeaway from this topic, one can totally snob MSM and still become the richest man in the world...

By the way, are you aware that your beloved Georgian-mafioso Stalin, on the other hand, never worked during his disgusting, murderous and useless life. Stalin, once again, never worked with his hands during his life, never did anything business-related, was a commie politician parasite all his life. And a genocidal monster. (Golodomor, ever heard of that? and NKVD troikas? Stalin was an abomination on the same scale as Hitler)

 

[booshala]

Agree that none of these lists ever mean anything... lots of stealth wealth out there including the Rothschilds (without delving too much into conspiracy theory) or Ingvar Kamprad who through all kinds of shell companies likely holds 100% ownership of Ikea.

 

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That moment I want to say something but my warning level is too damn high.

All I will say is.....There is no proof he is actually a "conservative", just assumptions based on zero evidence because one wants to believe that. Or confirmation bias as SP5 said.

 

[Space Cowboy]

So, yeah, his forum focuses a lot on politics, accept it or find another forum.

Unfortunately a legion of great posters already have because of threads like this one.

 

[david.garrett84]

This thread is non-news.

He's not the richest man in the world, and no one knows anything about him.

Biggest takeaway from this topic: Going Strong loves allegedly conservative Spanish people, and hates "nerds."

This conservative (because he is a conservative, he didn't give any money to Hollywood charities, I need no further proof)...

How the bloody hell is that proof he's a conservative?

By that standard, the next girl I pick up at a nightclub and do at my place later, who doesn't give a damn about politics and doesn't donate a dime to any leftist charity or cause, qualifies by default as a "conservative" I've slept with.

This thread has officially gone bonkers. Conservative does not mean non-active leftist.

 

[Going strong]

This thread is non-news.

He's not the richest man in the world, and no one knows anything about him.

Biggest takeaway from this topic: Going Strong loves allegedly conservative Spanish people, and hates "nerds."

This conservative (because he is a conservative, he didn't give any money to Hollywood charities, I need no further proof)...

How the bloody hell is that proof he's a conservative?

By that standard, the next girl I pick up at a nightclub and do at my place later, who doesn't give a damn about politics and doesn't donate a dime to any leftist charity or cause, qualifies by default as a "conservative" I've slept with.

This thread has officially gone bonkers. Conservative does not mean non-active leftist.

I can spot a Conservative by seeing what he does, or what he carefully avoids doing.

This man was undoubtedly under massive pressure to give money to leftist organizations (to "promote Zara's image"), and give interviews to CNN's Zacharias, all billionaires are. Well, he (almost) never gave in. I think he's the only Western billionaire who never gave a cent to Clooney or the likes, and never appeared on CNN. It means something, it tells us something about this man's mind.

"Conservative does not mean non-active leftist.": I disagree. Any public person who is not engaged in active-leftism, is a (secret or not) Conservative.

 

[Space Cowboy]

This man was undoubtedly under massive pressure to give money to leftist organizations (to "promote Zara's image"), and give interviews to CNN's Zacharias, all billionaires are. Well, he (almost) never gave in. I think he's the only Western billionaire who never gave a cent to Clooney or the likes, and never appeared on CNN. It means something, it tells us something about this man's mind.

It might just mean the guy has shitty English

 

[Onto]

Bill Gates deserves to be the richest man, because his company's products have the done the most good. Word and Excel dramatically transformed and increased the productivity of all people and business around the world, not to mention the Windows OS itself. I still use those two applications on a daily basis.

What good has women's clothing done for mankind?

 

[Going strong]

Bill Gates deserves to be the richest man,

Bill Gates' "charitable" SJW foundation is a direct threat to the survival of Europe (and the USA), notably (but not exclusively) by promoting the current invasions of undocumented migrants: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35381129

"The billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has told the BBC that the United States "should set a better example" by taking in more refugees.

Mr Gates said his home country "had the capacity" to follow the examples of Germany and Sweden, who were "to be congratulated" for welcoming migrants."
(But note that mister Gates himself does not welcome migrants in his personal home, how surprising!)

(Bill Gates on American farmers: "It's amazing how many farming jobs we got rid of (in the US)... That's really a very good thing" :dodgy: )

On the other hand, our Zara Spanish billionaire never said a word about the undocumented migrants, never gave them money. This in itself speaks volumes. The man doesn't care about SJW peer-pressure, does only what he wants and totally disregards MSM...

 

[Goldin Boy]

Is this viejo really thread-worthy?

Just because one conservative, mind you we don't really know if he is, guy is wealthy doesn't mean they all are. Also if you look at the Forbes list of billionaires the rest of Top 10 are leftists/globalists.


It's as silly as if I went to any large coastal, liberal*, Democratic US city, found one 25 year old virgin. Then I ran to rvf and starting a thread with a title of:

NYC/Boston/LA is Full of Chaste Women Who Hate Clubs, Alcohol, and Hooking-Up with Strange Men

Ortega, like my fictional 25 year virgin, is a statistical outlier. People get rich creating solutions and products that people want...anyone can do that regardless of their politics or values.

OP is falling for the halo effect: He shares Ortega's politics/values and is trying to link Ortega's conservatism to his success in business.If his conservatism was the key to his success would there be more conservative billionaires. Going Strong's hamster is spinning at Mach 3 right now.

I like those liberal coastal cities and don't really care for the sudden shift towards toward conservatism in the manosphere in the last 2 years. I came to the forum to learn to get as much money and pussy as I can in my 1 life and can't do that as a conservative society.

 

[Handsome Creepy Eel]

He is probably a conservative because he unapologetically refused to expand into USA because "the people there are too fat". I recall making a thread about that in my early days.

Other than that, we have no idea who he is or what he thinks. Obviously he's very superior to Cucksperger, but that's it.

 

[Onto]

Bill Gates deserves to be the richest man,

Bill Gates' "charitable" SJW foundation is a direct threat to the survival of Europe (and the USA), notably (but not exclusively) by promoting the current invasions of undocumented migrants: http://www.bbc.com/news/business-35381129

"The billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has told the BBC that the United States "should set a better example" by taking in more refugees.

Mr Gates said his home country "had the capacity" to follow the examples of Germany and Sweden, who were "to be congratulated" for welcoming migrants."
(But note that mister Gates himself does not welcome migrants in his personal home, how surprising!)

(Bill Gates on American farmers: "It's amazing how many farming jobs we got rid of (in the US)... That's really a very good thing" :dodgy: )

On the other hand, our Zara Spanish billionaire never said a word about the undocumented migrants, never gave them money. This in itself speaks volumes. The man doesn't care about SJW peer-pressure, does only what he wants and totally disregards MSM...

I'm separating what a person did to earn his money from what he decides to do with it or his own personal beliefs. In my mind they are mutually exclusive.

Dostoevsky was a mess of a man in many ways, but it shouldn't prevent him from deserving to be regarded as the greatest writer of all time.

From a business standpoint Gate's products changed the world for the better in a way akin to the lightbulb. That's all I'm saying.

 

[ElFlaco]

From a business standpoint Gate's products changed the world for the better in a way akin to the lightbulb. That's all I'm saying.

This isn't the dominant view in tech circles, where Gates is reviled for having retarded innovation, crushing non-proprietary standards, bullying competitors, lawyering, wielding quasi-monopolistic control, etc. These practices did not benefit consumers. Microsoft products are widely used because they're widely used (networking effects), not because of their high quality.

 

[Duke Castile]

So, yeah, his forum focuses a lot on politics, accept it or find another forum.

Unfortunately a legion of great posters already have because of threads like this one.

It's guys like you are why I usually only visit the politics and war threads.

 

[Going strong]

I notice that we (members on this thread) had disagreement on whether Gates is, or isn't, a nefarious "faggoty nerd married to a plain-Jane", but, nobody denied my such characterizing of the Facebook guy, whatshisname. Good, at least we agreed on something.

Anyway, "Space Cowboy" complained that my thread was "useless", it certainly was useful... to him. He (if male poster) after all, got 2 rep points from it. For writing a couple of one-liners, of no-value negative and snarky posts: not bad, Space Cowboy, well done.

I already noticed by the way that Left-leaning members distribute between themselves rep points for no-value posts. Sad, unfair and low-energy! Here's to give you high-energy, haters:

 

[El Chinito loco]

Here's how I view the post drama in this thread..

Lots of hilarious back and forth but.. I really don't see anything wrong with this thread.

Going Strong is bringing to attention a person we don't know much about. How politics intertwines in it is interesting to read about. Whether or not he's a closeted globalist is irrelevant. It's still an interesting background story of a man who came up from nothing and became a lot.

I came from absolute nothing and built a modest business so I respect guys like this and like reading about how they achieved their success.

There are deeper insights into their character there that go beyond politics.

 

[Going strong]

Going Strong is bringing to attention a person we don't know much about. How politics intertwines in it is interesting to read about. Whether or not he's a closeted globalist is irrelevant. It's still an interesting background story of a man who came up from nothing and became a lot.

I came from absolute nothing and built a modest business so I respect guys like this and like reading about how they achieved their success.

There are deeper insights into their character there that go beyond politics.

There are deeper insights into character there that go beyond politics: I agree. Especially, consider that this Spanish guy spent like ten years sewing clothes with his wife in his living-room, before making it big and becoming a millionaire, and soon billionaire. What resilience, commendable power of will, fruitful sacrifice and trust in his commercial vision! Much respect!

Avec à peine l'équivalent de 100 dollars en poche, il commence à fabriquer dans le salon de son petit appartement de La Corogne (extrême nord ouest de l'Espagne) des pyjamas et des sous-vêtements. Il faudra attendre 12 ans pour qu'il ouvre une première boutique dans sa petiteville natale, rue Torreiro
With hardly 100 usd in his pocket, he starts making clothes in the living-room of his small apartment of La Coruna, pajamas and underwear. He'll have to work 12 years to open his first commercial shop in his native city, on Torreiro street.

 

[Thersites]

Going strong, want to show the stark contrast between a bitch facebook millionaire and a man who in span of decades became a multi-billionaire that kept himself ground to reality. Ortega does inject himself in politics to indulge in signaling his virtue to the masses. He is quiet man that knows how his workers are doing and enjoys the simple things in life. Compare to pirates in silicon valley who actively fuck over their own people for a chance to make a quick buck, it breathe of fresh air when looking at Ortega.

 

[Sp5]

Again, the guy is personally admirable for his austerity and his hard work. But he's just making more stuff for the global fashion / mass media / social media mill.

Feminism is 90% a product of the market: women spend more on things they don't need, so they needed to be freed to be able to make and spend their own money, because this boosts economic growth. Women's employment and "liberation" is a stated goal for aid programs which aim to boost economic growth in developing countries. Because when they made money, they spend it. It's not a secret.

"Fashion" is the constant excitation of material desires for status and glamour in women. It is part of why women want to trade up with men.

This is his product:

Men don't give a fuck about "fashion."