New wealthiest man in the world, a Conservative blue-collar Spaniard

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Again, the guy is personally admirable for his austerity and his hard work. But he's just making more stuff for the global fashion / mass media / social media mill.

Feminism is 90% a product of the market: women spend more on things they don't need, so they needed to be freed to be able to make and spend their own money, because this boosts economic growth. Women's employment and "liberation" is a stated goal for aid programs which aim to boost economic growth in developing countries. Because when they made money, they spend it. It's not a secret.

"Fashion" is the constant excitation of material desires for status and glamour in women. It is part of why women want to trade up with men.

I see your point. But the very few times I entered (with women, in malls) a Zara store, I had (not that I was looking closely, granted) the impression that Zara's products are not so bad, quite ok looking, not very degenerate (even though you did find some bad, beta tee-shirts above, sure)... Let's say, Zara is not perfect but probably (or so I hope) above average in terms of design and principles?

By the way, I never said that this Spanish man was perfect: once or twice in his life he had to bow, a little bit, before globalists (Caritas got to him, at the end, but just once and for pocket money), but, it's not too bad... I mean, almost all his life he maintained his independence and hard-work principles, and humble -though successful- profile. He also got himself a (second-spouse) woman much better looking than the homey Facebook wife (and he divorced in good, gentleman terms with his first wife)...

Anyway, once again: what I find the most remarkable is, this man persevered ten years (or twelve years even!) sewing clothes in his living-room, so strong was his commitment, his trust in his business plan, and then he made it to billionaire. Ten years working like a dog, with one thought in mind: "I will succeed, I'll keep on!".

 

[Frank Underwood]

I don't know how conservative Ortega's political views are, but his lifestyle exemplifies the lessons of The Millionaire Next Door.

 

[ElFlaco]

I see your point. But the very few times I entered (with women, in malls) a Zara store, I had (not that I was looking closely, granted) the impression that Zara's products are not so bad, quite ok looking, not very degenerate

I'm thin but not short, so I have trouble finding cheap clothes that fit me in the US. Zara and Uniqlo have often come through for me. Zara's line is so limited that supposedly it's common to see someone else wearing the same shirt you have on but I never notice that kind of thing nor would I care. I hate clothes shopping and Zara makes it relatively painless.

 

[Going strong]

So, yeah, his forum focuses a lot on politics, accept it or find another forum.

Unfortunately a legion of great posters already have because of threads like this one.

It's guys like you are why I usually only visit the politics and war threads.

By the way, Space Cowboy, Fisto sent me a PM to confirm that you (and not me) and your pals are the ones targeted by his post above... Just in case you thought Fisto threw both of us in the basket of deplorables: no, you're alone in the basket, dude. Not really alone though, you seem to keep some nice company: