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<blockquote data-quote="Ice Man" data-source="post: 1179265" data-attributes="member: 14129"><p>An interesting fact about the proliferation of uber etc is that such services have <strong>increased traffic and vehicles and pollution in cities</strong>. </p><p></p><p>One of the big claims of these "ridesharing" companies was that it would reduce vehicle congestion and pollution. Well that has been found to be not only bullshit, in fact they have increased the problem.</p><p></p><p>Studies* found that the people who use these service most are people who were previously taking the bus, train, walking, or riding a bike. Uber, Lyft etc have pulled millions of people off of public transport and non-motorized transport and put them each in (usually) their own vehicle. Turns out that given a choice between a piss smelling bus and quiet ride in a Prius, people go with the car. What a surprise!</p><p></p><p>They also found that not only are there millions more people now riding in cars who weren't before, those cars are sitting empty idling for long stretches waiting for the next passenger. So you have a <em>multiple times effect</em> on emissions than you would with someone driving their own car and parking it, let alone the effect of pulling millions off public transport and add those car trips to the "carbon footprint".</p><p></p><p>So, increased pollution, loss of riders on efficient public transport, increased traffic in cities.</p><p></p><p>The eco-terrorists are quiet on these facts. The question is, why?</p><p></p><p>Clearly the true purpose of "ride-sharing", and by extension the pushing of autonomous cars, is not to reduce traffic or pollution, since it has made both worse. So what is it? :dodgy:</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">*Sources:</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://nypost.com/2018/02/25/uber-lyft-drivers-are-making-city-traffic-worse-studies-find/" target="_blank">https://nypost.com/2018/02/25/uber-lyft-drivers-are-making-city-traffic-worse-studies-find/</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="http://kdvr.com/2018/02/25/studies-suggest-uber-and-lyft-cause-traffic-congestion/" target="_blank">http://kdvr.com/2018/02/25/studies-suggest-uber-and-lyft-cause-traffic-congestion/</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2017/12/how-to-fix-new-york-citys-unsustainable-traffic-woes/548798/" target="_blank">https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2017/12/how-to-fix-new-york-citys-unsustainable-traffic-woes/548798/</a></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/nyregion/uber-car-congestion-pricing-nyc.html[/SIZE]" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/nyregion/uber-car-congestion-pricing-nyc.html[/SIZE]</a></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ice Man, post: 1179265, member: 14129"] An interesting fact about the proliferation of uber etc is that such services have [b]increased traffic and vehicles and pollution in cities[/b]. One of the big claims of these "ridesharing" companies was that it would reduce vehicle congestion and pollution. Well that has been found to be not only bullshit, in fact they have increased the problem. Studies* found that the people who use these service most are people who were previously taking the bus, train, walking, or riding a bike. Uber, Lyft etc have pulled millions of people off of public transport and non-motorized transport and put them each in (usually) their own vehicle. Turns out that given a choice between a piss smelling bus and quiet ride in a Prius, people go with the car. What a surprise! They also found that not only are there millions more people now riding in cars who weren't before, those cars are sitting empty idling for long stretches waiting for the next passenger. So you have a [i]multiple times effect[/i] on emissions than you would with someone driving their own car and parking it, let alone the effect of pulling millions off public transport and add those car trips to the "carbon footprint". So, increased pollution, loss of riders on efficient public transport, increased traffic in cities. The eco-terrorists are quiet on these facts. The question is, why? Clearly the true purpose of "ride-sharing", and by extension the pushing of autonomous cars, is not to reduce traffic or pollution, since it has made both worse. So what is it? :dodgy: [SIZE=2]*Sources: [URL]https://nypost.com/2018/02/25/uber-lyft-drivers-are-making-city-traffic-worse-studies-find/[/URL] [URL]http://kdvr.com/2018/02/25/studies-suggest-uber-and-lyft-cause-traffic-congestion/[/URL] [URL]https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2017/12/how-to-fix-new-york-citys-unsustainable-traffic-woes/548798/[/URL] [URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/26/nyregion/uber-car-congestion-pricing-nyc.html[/SIZE][/URL][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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