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MikeinMKE

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tjf78 said:
However, my ultimate sleeper team will be tampa bay. This is a contract year for Josh Freeman. He has Vincent Jackson, Doug Martin, and Mike Williams. All of these skill guys can produce. Their oline is decent with two great guards (Davin Joseph and Carl Nicks), two below-average tackles (Donald Penn and Demar Dobson) and I forget their center.

Their defense will be top 10 in 2013. They have the nfl's best three tech dt with gerald mccoy but the rest of their dline is unproven. They have two hard-hitting lbs (Mason Foster and Lavonte David) but they cannot cover. Their secondary improved immensely with Darrelle Revis and Dashon Goldson. They had the number 1 run defense last year and they only lost Michael Bennett to Seattle and their nose tackle. This team will win the NFC South and they are my 2013 sleeper team.
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The problem with this is that the Saints and Falcons not only have great big receivers, but both have great tight ends, slot receivers, and running backs who can catch out of the backfield (plus top 5 QB's in the league). It's kind of pick your poison IMO.

I agree the Bucs secondary is improved but I think the problem will be covering Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham, Lance Moore, Harry Douglas, Jaquez Rogers, and Darren Sproles. The NFC South usually throws us a curveball of some sort, but I honestly have trouble seeing any team not named "Atlanta" or "New Orleans" coming out on top.
 
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tjf78

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I think the Raiders reached in the first round for that CB hayden (I think is his name). Should have just kept trading down and got picks. Holes across the entire team.

Haha, I agree with you 100% on this pick. They should have picked Florida DT Sherrif Floyd at 12. IMO, this draft was not very deep at CB. Outside of Alabama's Dee Milliner, there was a severe drop-off at CB. The Raiders have been the laughing-stock of the NFL since around 2005 when they drafted speedy Nebraska CB Fabian Washington. I believe he ran a 4.25 but he did not produce. Spent three seasons with the Raiders and then went to the Jets. I believe he is out of the NFL. Speed and 40 times matter more to the Raiders organization than anything. They took that Maryland WR Darius Heyward-Bey ahead of Crabtree in the 2009 Draft. Back to Hayden, he ran a 4.33 40. This was one of the fastest times for a CB in this year's draft and this explains why the Raiders reached for him.

I always liked TB since Gruden, but Freeman better step up. IIRC, TB drafted a qb. It is a contract year for Freeman, right? He has tools around him and a good defense as long as Goldson doesn't pile a bunch of personal fouls.
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Yes, this is the last year on Freeman's rookie contract. They drafted NC State QB Mike Gleanon in the 3rd round. Haha, Goldson is a mean motherfucker except when he squares up with Marshawn Lynch.
 
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samsamsam

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LOL Dashon didn't lower his shoulder.

Joking of course, but it would be awesome just as a joke, if Marshawn on one play packed skittles inside his helmet and then when he got hit they exploded everywhere.
 
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tjf78

Pigeon
The problem with this is that the Saints and Falcons not only have great big receivers, but both have great tight ends, slot receivers, and running backs who can catch out of the backfield (plus top 5 QB's in the league). It's kind of pick your poison IMO.

Jimmy Graham and Tony Gonzalez present match-up problems for every team they face. They are great route-runners and they move well in space. Also, Greg Olsen of Carolina is a top 15 nfl TE. He will hurt the bucs too. I really believe their TE's will have to produce for either the saints and falcons to play well against the bucs. Also, Atlanta picked up RB Steven Jackson from St. Louis and he is a beast. He will get his yards against the bucs stellar run defense. The TE's need to show up. Since the Bucs have Revis, they immediately take away the running backs, receivers, and slot guys. The bucs can put revis one on one against Julio Jones or Colston the entire game with Mark Baron over the top. Or they can put revis on an island against Roddy White or Lance Moore with no safety help. Revis gives them so much flexibility to run numerous different coverages with their pass defense.

The Saints or the Falcons have a good chance to win the NFC South. If they wish to beat the Bucs D, their TE's need to big days.

@samsamsam. That would be really funny to see all of those skittles fly out after Marshawn hits a defender. They should put it on Sport Science episode. This a funny Marshawn Lynch video during his rookie year in Buffalo. Watch 3:24-3:53. It explains why his head is so strong, haha.
 
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rudebwoy

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Raiders got Woodson back on a one year deal, does he have anything left?

As a Charger fan I was hoping they would bring back DaMarcus Russell. lol
 
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samsamsam

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tfj78, that is some funny stuff. busted his head up but had to keep running because he wasn't tagged yet.

rudebwoy, I think he has a year left in him as long as he doesn't get hurt. He keeps getting banged up.
 
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The Chicago Bears are going to take it this year. New head coach Marc Trestman and company are going to improve on what Lovie Smith left off which was a 10-6 Bears team with an amazing defense. All we need to do is keep Jay Cutler upright and have improved the O-line by aquiring Brushord from the Saints and drafting Howie Long's son Kyle Long in the first round. Theyve also added Bennet from the Giants as a huge upgrade in tight end. The Bears are one slot receiver away from being a stacked team and a complete team.


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I want to give a shotout to the newest Bears. First round pick Kyle Long and 2nd Round pick Jonathan Bostic and former Free agents Brushord and Bennet

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NYJ

Kingfisher
2Wycked said:
Current value of NFL teams: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9566558/forbes-dallas-cowboys-top-valuable-nfl-team

I am surprised that the Texans were so valuable - I would have thought the Bears, 49'ers, Steelers and Packers would have been ahead of them.
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Well in the 49ers and Packers cases those stadiums they play in hold them back a bit. Older venues with not as many luxury boxes which are a source of revenue. Soilder field is also the smallest stadium in the league.
 
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MikeinMKE

Kingfisher
I'm excited about this season - am going to see my Saints play week 1 in NOLA, at Chicago, at New England, at Atlanta*, at St Louis*, and any 2nd round or later playoff games.

* - assuming game is meaningful
 
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2Wycked

Ostrich
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NFL is back tomorrow, fellas.

I'm fucking stoked.

I'll go ahead and make some predictions for the hell of it.

NFC

Seahawks, Falcons, Cowboys and Bears win their divisions.

Green Bay and 49'ers are wildcards.

Bears and Falcons in the conference game.

AFC

Broncos, Patriots, Texans and Bengals are division winners.

Pittsburgh and Kansas City are the wild cards.

Broncos and Bengals in the championship game.
 
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