Nick Fuentes

mountainaire

mountainaire

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and just say it. These latest attacks on Nick are petty, feminine backbiting.

It has become increasingly more apparent that Nick is the guy. Everyone wants to be the guy in the dissident right sphere, but it's not something you can choose. You either are or you aren't. The betas think if they gang up on Nick, they will have a shot at being the guy, but it doesn't work that way.

You can choose to engage in petty gossip, but the fact remains, a few months ago he stood in front of a packed auditorium leading a chant of "Christ Is King". If you think you can do a better job, I implore you to go and do so.

I will say this to his supposed "right wing" critics. You should ask yourselves why you're linking arms with trannies, drug addicts, atheists, liberals, and nihilists to take down a young man who has mustered resistance to this beast system. Nick and his followers aren't perfect, but currently I see no one better.
 
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GuitarVH

GuitarVH

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
mountainaire said:
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and just say it. These latest attacks on Nick are petty, feminine backbiting.

It has become increasingly more apparent that Nick is the guy. Everyone wants to be the guy in the dissident right sphere, but it's not something you can choose. You either are or you aren't. The betas think if they gang up on Nick, they will have a shot at being the guy, but it doesn't work that way.

You can choose to engage in petty gossip, but the fact remains, a few months ago he stood in front of a packed auditorium leading a chant of "Christ Is King". If you think you can do a better job, I implore you to go and do so.

I will say this to his supposed "right wing" critics. You should ask yourselves why you're linking arms with trannies, drug addicts, atheists, liberals, and nihilists to take down a young man who has mustered resistance to this beast system. Nick and his followers aren't perfect, but currently I see no one better.
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Agreed. I watch Nick a few times a week, I like his geo-political analysis. I have no idea what in the world the previous posters are talking about. Gay accusations? Doesn't seem right. Just weird.
 
Denam8487

Denam8487

Robin
Catholic
GuitarVH said:
Agreed. I watch Nick a few times a week, I like his geo-political analysis. I have no idea what in the world the previous posters are talking about. Gay accusations? Doesn't seem right. Just weird.
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Nick went on Jim’s stream and said that having sex with a woman was gross. Jaden said on the stream that Nick binged a gay show filled with male genitalia (Euphoria) and tried to get him to watch it.

I defended Nick tooth and nail until recently when he started saying some really questionable things (see above) and allied himself with absolute degenerates like Ethan Ralph, Beardson and Baked.
 
earam8778

earam8778

Pigeon
Catholic
mountainaire said:
Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and just say it. These latest attacks on Nick are petty, feminine backbiting.

It has become increasingly more apparent that Nick is the guy. Everyone wants to be the guy in the dissident right sphere, but it's not something you can choose. You either are or you aren't. The betas think if they gang up on Nick, they will have a shot at being the guy, but it doesn't work that way.

You can choose to engage in petty gossip, but the fact remains, a few months ago he stood in front of a packed auditorium leading a chant of "Christ Is King". If you think you can do a better job, I implore you to go and do so.

I will say this to his supposed "right wing" critics. You should ask yourselves why you're linking arms with trannies, drug addicts, atheists, liberals, and nihilists to take down a young man who has mustered resistance to this beast system. Nick and his followers aren't perfect, but currently I see no one better.
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I understand what you're saying, Nick is the leader of AF, but how can you be the man while also being petty and feminine? sounds like an oxymoron. The metokour debate was childish and a bit unnecessary. and secondly Jaden is not trying to gang up on nick.
 
GuitarVH

GuitarVH

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Denam8487 said:
Nick went on Jim’s stream and said that having sex with a woman was gross. Jaden said on the stream that Nick binged a gay show filled with male genitalia (Euphoria) and tried to get him to watch it.

I defended Nick tooth and nail until recently when he started saying some really questionable things (see above) and allied himself with absolute degenerates like Ethan Ralph, Beardson and Baked.
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I still don't know what you're talking about. I watch Nick for his political insights which I find helpful. I don't know anything about the people you mentioned and it all sounds really gossipy, petty and slanderous.
 
It_is_my_time

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
As a guy in his 40's I try to follow the AF guys a little bit, just to see where the youth is at. All in all, youth is simply youth. Outside of being 18 and tilling your own land to feed your family or face starvation, or going into war, most men 30 and under are still driven by hormones and ego. I was the same way when I was young and I certainly don't miss it. I see that in the AF movement too. I often have to turn it off when I hear "I'm the political genius" "I'm the one who has all the ideas". I don't blame a young man for being young, but at the same time that is why older men are to lead these younger men down the right path. The older men are not driven by ego or hormones, they are driven by trying to pass on their knowledge. Unfortunately there are few of them in our society with the knowledge we need.

There are a lot of AF former viewers moving on to the big leagues. Who/what that is I will not mention in this thread. But if you are still watching AF/Nick, I suggest staying with it but also venturing out to see what/who is beyond him and has many more years of both life experience but also research and can give you far more in-depth analysis and the only possible solution out of this mess.

I listen to both. One side I get my information (the big leagues) the other side (AF) I try to get a glimpse of the future and understand the true hardships young men face in this evil society.

I pray for all those involved in this latest controversy. We all face the same enemy and we all need to heal and come together to have a chance at beating it.
 
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BerkhofBerghof

Pigeon
Protestant
They were close friends of his, so just acting as if they are just petty haters, is a little weird. When you make big bucks and you pay your friend minimum wage, there is sth. wrong with you spiritually and morally, especially if the guy has a sick child that you are the godfather of...and then you badmouth him and fire him. Is your ego more important than your sick godchild? Seems rather that Fuentes big boy'd his friends and mistreated them and now people hate them for talking about it. Could it be that they all lie? Sure. But even if only a quarter of the accusations are true...charisma is a poison that obscures moral judgement. They don't profit from speaking out against him, Fuentes has quite a gatekeeping position and groypers will likely try to mess up their livelihoods, especially Jaden loses most of his audience by doing it - that should be taken into consideration when examining their statements.
 
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7-5

7-5

Pigeon
Other Christian
Aside from going over clips and/or whole hours long Livestreams: where can I see these things he's done?

Actually asking.
 
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BerkhofBerghof

Pigeon
Protestant
Caramasão said:
One thing I have to agree with Nick Fuentes is that online gossip and judging other people's lives, like what Metokur and Warski produce, is the lowest type of content you can find on the internet.
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That is true, but people he endorses like Baked and Ethan Ralph do the same thing. For someone calling out e-drama creators and the jews, it is odd to endorse the Killstream, to brag about how much money he makes and to have half a million on his bank account.
 
Tom Slick

Tom Slick

Kingfisher
Orthodox
BerkhofBerghof said:
We are talking about this for pages. What is your take?
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I haven't followed Nick closely for a couple of years since I got more into the church, after the Groyper Wars, but since then I saw some signs that things were going wrong. However, because he was drawing people like Michelle Malkin and Paul Gosar to AFPAC, I thought that probably the main idea of AF was being pushed forward and Nick was building a viable political movement for young people.

The biggest reservation I had back then was that Nick had anything at all to do with Milo, who had already gone public as having kept recordings of people's private conversations and was now on his own (Milo's) stream threatening out in the open to blackmail them. I think that was Dec. 2019 and Nick flew to Florida to be on his stream a couple of months later, shortly before covid. Why would anyone of integrity ever have anything to do with Milo after he began his public blackmailing? And then of course later from the cville trial it turns out Milo's also a federal informant, so they warned him not to go to the Jan 6 protest, which for me is just additional deal-breaker reasons to never trust him or anyone who associates with him.

Last summer, Nick was in my town for some kind of CPAC protest and he put out a telegram post for people to come do a mini-rally at his hotel across the street from CPAC, so I showed up and there were more signs of things going wrong. I don't know if this has ever happened to you, but in the past I've gone to meet people from online stuff and they were really into making people wait for them, and eventually it was obvious they were just giddy on this power trip of being in control and watching people put up with their bs.

At the hotel mini-rally that Nick called with just a few hours notice, it really seemed like he was doing that to the people who came to hear him. He was making us wait so long in really bad conditions. He showed up an hour and a half late to the lobby, took some photos, slipped away, then we were all told to go down the hall to a large conference room. Nick disappeared and we were stuck in a very hot, crowded hallway for over an hour before I left, although the conference with Nick did eventually happen. Before going, I met John Doyle and chatted for a moment with him and Harrison Smith of Infowars. Jaden was also standing there and looked miserable, which is unexplained, so it could be anything, but now I'm thinking maybe it was Nick.

Listening to Jaden talk about this falling out, and another dude showing up on the stream who worked for Nick since 2017 (he's got video of Nick as his best man at his wedding) saying the same thing as Jaden, plus hearing that John Doyle had a falling out with Nick, Patrick Casey had a falling out with Nick, Jake Lloyd left AF, and it's like all the little signs are coming together to an obvious conclusion: whenever the leader of an organization or large group constantly has falling outs with people close to him and constantly claims that those people betrayed him, it's the leader who has the problem.

All that said, what I'm hearing is also a typical story from a small family business or other political in-fighting. It's really the norm, not the exception, but it's still a little disappointing.
 
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Max Roscoe

Max Roscoe

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
It_is_my_time said:
Destiny, to his credit, was one of the few (only maybe) leftist to actually be open to debating the "extreme" right wing.
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There are plenty of leftists who I respect.
The Jewish Homosexual Glenn Greenwald is probably our best English speaking journalist.
Matt Taibbi, Noam Chomsky, Jimmy Dore, I even respect Bill Maher on his free speech positions and culture war positions.
I could name plenty more.

But this Destiny character is duplicitous, evil, sarcastic, and snarky.
He is also an open bisexual who allows his girlfriend to fornicate with other men (and he sometimes will watch as a cuckold in an "open relationship"), and a neoliberal, which is just a neo-con who is a Democrat, and he loves everything the deep state is doing. He doesn't have any principles. If Team USA is doing it, he is in agreement, and will find some way of defending the policy.

I've seen him in a number of "debates" because he is one of the few people that doesn't just "I literally can't even!!!" rage quit and will talk to people on the dissident right. But he is extremely disengenuous, and relies on cheap debate tricks like pretending he doesn't know obvious things, in order to waste time and wear down his opponent, demanding "wheres your study" and constantly appealing to authority, constant interruption and distraction, if you call him out on it he will use the extremely Jewish technique of crying out in pain as he strikes you and accuse YOU (usually using the buzzwords "that's a gishgallop" or "you're pivoting"), he uses profanity in a liberal and casual way, talks way too fast and says way too little, and overall he just has an extremely annoying style of communicating and weird grasp of logic.

Please don't give this character any attention.
I've never heard him make a good point in a debate.
A debate between him and Fuentes would be insufferable, as they both are rambling blabbermouths with rather large egos.

About the only decent online debater I would say is JF Gariepy or Ryan Dawson. Both are autistic enough to never fall for any debate tricks or become emotional. Richard Spencer was a very good debater but he has gone insane since covid and now thinks we should go to war for Ukraine to bring about some great Pan-European empire. Totally bonkers.

Even E Michael Jones who I like a lot is not really good at debating as he tends to ramble and not really focus on the actual points of dissention and analyze them logically. If you want a sincere principled leftist debater, other than those above, the communist Caleb Maupin is one. Twitter froze his account and added the label "Russian state media" because of his extreme pro communist views which is hilarious.

Just please don't ever watch a Destiny video.
 
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Adam78

Chicken
Orthodox
Roosh said:
We do have a groypers thread but I think it's worth having one on Fuentes since his profile is growing. The regime is going after him pretty hard...

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Why do you reckon he appears to be so dangerous bother RV?
 
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