Do not slander people, there is no evidence of this.
Nick Fuentes
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Nick's focus on self and willingness to go on stupid diatribes about sex with women being gay or not (I get he's making a hyperbolic metaphor) is the sort of thing that detracts from the more important message.
All he has to say is
"I'm not going to give in to discussing my private matters publicly. I don't believe Formication is good for men, and I am deeply religious. Any attack on my faith shows that people can't debate the truth of what they say and have to resort to personal slander.
Sadly Nick takes the bate because he's young and had an ego one would expect from a dude on his early 20s.
Personally, hadn't listened to him in a while... So I don't know if the above is a generally accurate representation of what he's been putting out there recently...but it's stupid stuff like this that are the reasons Ive tuned him out for more high brow commentary or meaningful discussion that actually help me navigate being an adult...not playing into patty cake games with other internet personalities ect....
But hey, dudes gotta do something to keep people paying attention and hes got a base of people that are generally on the right side of issues...
It's pretty easy to take one thing out of context...but this sort of commentary is TO ME*** screams "me thinks thou dost protest too much".
When/if someone ever attacked me about anything I believed or did, I just say "meh don't care about them...what have they done in life and how's that working for em?" Vs getting into it debating their idiocy.
Agreed with above... Let's see the video in question where he's caught red handed though....
All he has to say is
"I'm not going to give in to discussing my private matters publicly. I don't believe Formication is good for men, and I am deeply religious. Any attack on my faith shows that people can't debate the truth of what they say and have to resort to personal slander.
Sadly Nick takes the bate because he's young and had an ego one would expect from a dude on his early 20s.
Personally, hadn't listened to him in a while... So I don't know if the above is a generally accurate representation of what he's been putting out there recently...but it's stupid stuff like this that are the reasons Ive tuned him out for more high brow commentary or meaningful discussion that actually help me navigate being an adult...not playing into patty cake games with other internet personalities ect....
But hey, dudes gotta do something to keep people paying attention and hes got a base of people that are generally on the right side of issues...
It's pretty easy to take one thing out of context...but this sort of commentary is TO ME*** screams "me thinks thou dost protest too much".
When/if someone ever attacked me about anything I believed or did, I just say "meh don't care about them...what have they done in life and how's that working for em?" Vs getting into it debating their idiocy.
Agreed with above... Let's see the video in question where he's caught red handed though....
Nick is now the top guy, accoring to JPost. This article also made the front page of Drudge. Nick's message of Christian Nationalism now reaching the masses.
I was DM'ed screenshots, it seems suspicious as the title of the video in question sounds rather generic and vulgar and “Nick” also had numerous tabs of google trends open at the same time comparing himself with other e celebrities. It seems to me more likely to be an attack on him.
In any case, we should not be sharing such scandalous snippets about people that could destroy their reputation without 100% proof.
That was from a twitter account "mrkrabs" that actually wasn't Nick. Nick has been making burner twitter accounts to circumvent his ban for months, and someone attempted to insinuate the "mrkrabs" account was his new burner account by posting similarly to how Nick posts on Twitter. However, if you follow Nick on twitter at all it was clear this wasn't Nick. This has all been disproven and debunked. An obvious attempt by yet another kiwifarms, jilted ex-lover type to smear Nick. Even a left-wing smear journalist who wrote about this alleged incident retracted and called this out as fake.
As Christians, people on this site need to be very careful to not engage in slander, gossip, and rumor spreading. That whole thing was debunked over a month ago.
I don't follow Nick Fuentes on social media so I can't confirm it, but according to Nick, he always lets his followers (I suppose on Discord or Telegram) know when he creates a new twitter account. If that's the case, then why wouldn't he let them know that MrKrabs9000 was him?
A large number of groypers were following that account and interacted with it, including Cozy streamers. Were they all following every account with some Spongebob name? I'm not saying, it was his, it just seems odd to me. Anyway, after Simon's latest appearance on the Kino Casino, there are bigger problems with Nick than this imho. I'm not even getting into it here. People can watch it or RPG's review of it and form their own opinion. You need to follow the alogs, if you want a fuller picture of AF. I trust RPG and Jaden more than I trust Nick and the AF guys. But everybody has to decide this for himself.
It makes it easier if you don't trust any of them.
I don't trust Jaden. Even when he was friends with Nick, I got the distinct impression he was uninterested in politics or making any meaningful change (that he was a member of TPUSA is telling). Always given to petty infighting within the movement, always lashing out at anyone Nick seemed to commend out of spite or insecurity. That so many had a problem with him, including eventually Nick himself, was to me more an indication that Nick could be loyal to a friend even if the friendship had effectively ended.
Nick and his "based" politicians like Paul Gosar and MTG aren't totally trustworthy either. "It's not cool to shill for Israel," says Nick, but that's all Gosar does. I do recognize that they are working within the belly of the beast, though. He has to start somewhere.
With Nick one is able to appreciate his involvement in the sea change of the alt-right from godless to, if not godly, then at least godlier. Imagine if the younger men that now watch Nick were watching, say, Richard Spencer, whose political positions have largely become indistinguishable from the average Neocon or Democrat's. Whether a sincere Christian or not, Nick was able to sell a kind of Christian nationalism in a package more appealing to zoomers who had been brought up in a secular, degenerate culture. Yes, it often involves SpongeBob memes. Yes, there's an inordinate focus on video games and popular culture. But it's all informed by a Christian, America First perspective. His response to Roe v. Wade getting overturned excited and angered the right people.
I don't trust Jaden. Even when he was friends with Nick, I got the distinct impression he was uninterested in politics or making any meaningful change (that he was a member of TPUSA is telling). Always given to petty infighting within the movement, always lashing out at anyone Nick seemed to commend out of spite or insecurity. That so many had a problem with him, including eventually Nick himself, was to me more an indication that Nick could be loyal to a friend even if the friendship had effectively ended.
Nick and his "based" politicians like Paul Gosar and MTG aren't totally trustworthy either. "It's not cool to shill for Israel," says Nick, but that's all Gosar does. I do recognize that they are working within the belly of the beast, though. He has to start somewhere.
With Nick one is able to appreciate his involvement in the sea change of the alt-right from godless to, if not godly, then at least godlier. Imagine if the younger men that now watch Nick were watching, say, Richard Spencer, whose political positions have largely become indistinguishable from the average Neocon or Democrat's. Whether a sincere Christian or not, Nick was able to sell a kind of Christian nationalism in a package more appealing to zoomers who had been brought up in a secular, degenerate culture. Yes, it often involves SpongeBob memes. Yes, there's an inordinate focus on video games and popular culture. But it's all informed by a Christian, America First perspective. His response to Roe v. Wade getting overturned excited and angered the right people.
You should watch Jaden's show to hear his side. I really like his alogging. I never watched him while he was in AF. The main donor of Jaden is a guy by the name of Ultros. He is also a mod of RPG, if you're familiar withi him. Ultros never said anything, he just donated to Jaden. AF doxxed not only him, but also his dad, after Jaden left. And only after that and other attacks, Jaden went on the Kino Casino.
Gosar disavowed Nick months ago, saying he misleads people. Now, I'm not a Gosar fan, but even after their relationship ceased to exist, Nick pretended that he and Gosar were still cool. At AFPAC III they played a Gosar video address, but this address was recorded for CPAC and a groyper inturn of Gosar gave it to AF without Gosar knowing about it. You should watch the last Kino Casino with Simon. Simon also presented evidence of Cozy using a multipler for the view count of Nick's show and showed group messages of the AF leadership telling people that they should report right-wing critics of AF to Youtube by accusing them of hate speech and linking to articles of the SPLC and so on.
At one point, Nick shouted out Joe Kent and wanted him at AFPAC III. After Kent disavowed him, AF made a homepage with the name Joe Kent Is CIA or sth. like that. Just lately Nick endorsed Laura Loomer after her saying that America should continue to finance the Iron Dome to protect the "Americans" in Israel.
Personally, I do not care for anyone involved or ever involved in AF, with the exception of Vincent James. I do think Fuentes does say some good things, but they are too weird for me as a group. Yes, I'm late-30's, married with a family, so it could be a generational thing. They may be appealing to the outcast or socially inept Zoomers, but they all seem like oddballs to me. But his defense of Pope Francis and in my opinion the wearing of a Catholic skinsuit turns me off.
What happened to cause him to attack BAP? I do not care for BAP's paganism and all that is associated with that, but I find his work to much more interesting than AF.
What happened to cause him to attack BAP? I do not care for BAP's paganism and all that is associated with that, but I find his work to much more interesting than AF.
Fuentes the "anti race mixer" (who is half Mexican or whatever) thinks asians are more attractive than blonde white women. This guy is like Jordan Peterson; the more you listen to him the more nonsensical he reveals himself to be.
There's a difference in having a crush on someone of another race, and marrying someone of another race/ fornicating with another race. He said he likes brunettes the best, he wants to marry an Italian, like himself. He actually makes complete sense.
It's okay that you don't get it. Being late 30's you are a bit old for AF. It's a zoomer/young millenial movement. It's good to stay relevant with younger people though, and steer clear of late millenial/Gen X nihilism.
BAP is a claremont institute Jewish zionist shill, a grifter. By the way.
He straight up says he finds asians and other races more attractive in the looks department than whites @1:39. But then says race mixing is "unnatural". I do think it's true that people of the same race are generally more sexually attracted to their own verses outside of their race, but I guess anomaly Fuentes is the exception. And he isn't Italian, he's a mutt.
I did watch Jaden's videos. It was nice to see him point out some of the very real hypocrisies in the movement, but let's recall it was a movement he was very much a part of. What exactly is he doing now that he's unbound? Playing video games like he always did, but now also complaining about Nick while waiting for donations? I do wonder how much more money these people are donating to Nick and Jaden than to their own churches, if they even attend.
I completely understand that a generational gap exists. However, you take 18-25 year olds from GenX and Millennial that I associated with and made up the majority and aside from tastes in music or fashion we could easily relate. We played sports, hunt/fish, had girlfriends, went to the gym, loved going to social events, owned video games but they were pretty much just Madden, car racing or GoldenEye. Nothing of which it seems AF guys want anything to do with.
The talk of nihilism that the Z's seem to dwell on only existed in the weirdo and oddballs. The small minority that would sit together at the same table in the high school cafeteria. Not the plurality.
Now AF seems to be made up of that table in the cafeteria. I saw a photo of them in Vegas for something. Only the tall dark haired guy looked like someone I would have anything in common with. Better example, he's the only one who if he moved in to the house next door to me I wouldn't be bothered by. I couldn't imagine having the dude with the long blonde hair who wears a flag like a cape move in beside me.
Lastly, saying that Pope Francis is "based" is alone cause for me to tune them out completely.