Nick Fuentes

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I think there was still an opportunity.
I don't know how you bridge the gap between the fact the GOP is a top down run organization that stands against everything you believe in and pushing your beliefs within that organization. I used to think it was a good idea to try to infiltrate the GOP, use the populist talking points, and push more Trump 2016 candidates. But the fact is the GOP exists solely to prevent this from every happening. The entire reason the GOP exists, and billionaires spend millions every year funding elections, is to prevent a populist uprising.

I think Nick has realized this now and he will become much more dangerous not being shackled by trying to put out "good optics". Big things ahead for him and I am excited to see where he goes.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
I will say, Nick is starting down the hard road that the NJP has already built. He is realizing that he can't change the GOP. That he must work outside the GOP and build something new to ever have any real meaningful impact. And that is a VERY tall order. Kanye is a big name and front page news, but it is only a matter of time before the media completely shuts Kanye out. Soon the media will pretend he doesn't exist, no one will be allowed to interview him, he will be banned on social media, and then what?

I hope that very soon Nick and the Groypers reach out to the NJP. The NJP has no hate for Nick and the Groypers, in fact they love them because as their followers grow and realize this hardcore truth, they find the NJP and the NJP's numbers grow greatly from it. If Nick just reaches out to them, eventually moves his followers over, you could have a large sized movement with some infrastructure already in place and the elites will really be fearful.

The situation in LA is a great example. He is on an island by himself and on the enemy's territory. That is why, for the time being, the NJP does their conventions and rallies in hidden locations and records them. If anyone from Nick's entourage reads this thread, this is my advice from an older guy who has been following all of this for a long time. Reach out to the NJP, it is time to combine these two movements into one.
 

mountainaire

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
I will say, Nick is starting down the hard road that the NJP has already built. He is realizing that he can't change the GOP. That he must work outside the GOP and build something new to ever have any real meaningful impact. And that is a VERY tall order. Kanye is a big name and front page news, but it is only a matter of time before the media completely shuts Kanye out. Soon the media will pretend he doesn't exist, no one will be allowed to interview him, he will be banned on social media, and then what?

I hope that very soon Nick and the Groypers reach out to the NJP. The NJP has no hate for Nick and the Groypers, in fact they love them because as their followers grow and realize this hardcore truth, they find the NJP and the NJP's numbers grow greatly from it. If Nick just reaches out to them, eventually moves his followers over, you could have a large sized movement with some infrastructure already in place and the elites will really be fearful.

The situation in LA is a great example. He is on an island by himself and on the enemy's territory. That is why, for the time being, the NJP does their conventions and rallies in hidden locations and records them. If anyone from Nick's entourage reads this thread, this is my advice from an older guy who has been following all of this for a long time. Reach out to the NJP, it is time to combine these two movements into one.
TRS should reach out to Nick and ask for advice, imo. Nick's the one out there being a mover and a shaker. These other guys who are isolated on the internet should look at Nick and wonder what he's doing differently and figure out how to emulate him.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
TRS should reach out to Nick and ask for advice, imo. Nick's the one out there being a mover and a shaker. These other guys who are isolated on the internet should look at Nick and wonder what he's doing differently and figure out how to emulate him.
I agree, TRS is isolated. But they grow because they have infrastructure, because they knew 5 years ago, what Nick is just learning now. So, Nick now only has two choices. Try to duplicate the NJP, which is just wasted effort/time because the work is already done or reach out to them and combine the two.

The TRS/NJP guys will not reach out, because they simply don't believe they have to do so. They are busy doing toy donation drives, helping down and out unemployed White people, and doing real world protests that actually produce results and has the GOP terrified. Nick does an online podcast and is on TV in the background, unallowed to talk, while Ye spouts off discombobulated talking points.

I have two strong criticisms of the NJP.

#1) Stop using the N-word. People are just psy-oped into never trusting anyone who talks in such a low-class fashion, which is reasonable.

#2) They don't do outreach within the Alternative Political universe. Mike was on an actual radio show earlier this year. They do go on shows like "Patriotic Weekly Review" and other such podcasts. But they need to reach out to Ethan Ralph and just go on and answer questions.

Anyway, the fact that now Nick realizes what the NJP has been saying for 5 years about the GOP offers a huge opportunity to bury the hatchet and combine the two.
 

Holymanaspen

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer

CaliforniaBased

Woodpecker
Catholic
One of the best sincere Twitter lines I have ever read

"On his way to meet Trump at Mar-a-Lago yesterday, Kanye West was filmed walking through Miami's airport with misogynistic antisemitic white nationalist Christian fascist incel Nick Fuentes."


Nick associating with the whole incel thing is an unwise move if he is actually doing so.

The guy did not really come across as a racist in the Kanye interview.
 

Viktor Zeegelaar

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
One of the best sincere Twitter lines I have ever read

"On his way to meet Trump at Mar-a-Lago yesterday, Kanye West was filmed walking through Miami's airport with misogynistic antisemitic white nationalist Christian fascist incel Nick Fuentes."


Man they pulled out ''all the stops'' in adjectives there lol. I guess Schlomo Epsteingoldbergtov is very pleased.
 

Going strong

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Gold Member
Moves to Los Angeles for one week and makes the front page of TMZ.


Apparently, Coca-Cola is the new Molotov? I thought copper, steel and skin would dissolve in Coca-Cola only if they're immersed into it for like, one full day? Has coca-cola become more lethal, that it's now thrown full force at enemies?

In any case, Nick (Fuentes) is lucky he didn't try it on Nick (Cage), if you remember the beverage and archery scenes from the Weather Man.

About the whole set-up things around Mar a Lago, Nick and Ye, I'm just waiting for "the Russians did it" angle, like in the good old days of the Donald's first campaign.
 

Kurchatov

Pigeon
Orthodox
Apparently, Coca-Cola is the new Molotov? I thought copper, steel and skin would dissolve in Coca-Cola only if they're immersed into it for like, one full day? Has coca-cola become more lethal, that it's now thrown full force at enemies?
They love Coca-Cola.

During his leadership, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson was able to bring more people closer to the Jews than all the religious leaders of the present generation combined. His methods were completely innovative, never seen before in Jewish organizations. Rebbe seems to have used every opportunity, Technology, press, public influence to achieve what he has achieved. The seemingly dying Hasidic movement, drained of blood, has become a powerful force whose influence is felt by millions of people. The Rebbe has built an unprecedented network of Chabad branches around the world. As one of Israel’s greatest rabbis said:

“Wherever you go, you will find two things: Coca-Cola and Chabad. And even where there is no Coca-Cola, there is Chabad
.”
 

Raskolnikov

Woodpecker
Orthodox
They both disavowed him before the Kanye thing. The GOP mega donors are not going to let someone like Nick get into the big tent. And anyone in the big tent will be told to disavow Nick or else.
I agree and I am disappointed by how many people here don't understand that meme magic is real, and also that Nick is clearly maneuvering under God's guidance. Nick's fandom Ye started roughly around the same time as him becoming a serious Christian, then a serious commentator.

Here's my take on the situation: At this moment in time, we have a situation where the table is being shaken up and people might be able to play a new game. This confuses people, because everybody has learned to play under the rules of the old game. Seeing Ye as a "serious politician" in the sense of the old game, would mean "plays by established rules, doesn't offend the veto players, doesn't mess with conventions too much". The error lies in first of all assuming that the old game really existed as a static entity, which it didn't.
The left/progressives/globohomo understand that you can constantly manipulate the rules if you go about it with enough chutzpah and conviction, which they did. They got comedians into office, they got politicians to do comedy shows, they just recently managed to have a certified retard with aphasia to win an election.
Well, we now have a hyperactive negro superstar promoting open debate about faith, morals and the JQ carry those topics into the realm of media that is normally frequented by completely apolitical people, that is, negroes and young people. He is accompanied by an eccentric loudmouth virgin politics nerd who has a very loyal following of comparably eccentric, yet smart and engaged young people. The US now has a demented and corrupt president who can't help but make inadequate remarks at every turn, before that another hyperactive celebrity who responded to allegations of a sex affair by calling the woman in question "horseface" on twitter.

Long story short, going on about what is and isn't a good move is just an anxious waste of time, since clearly politics is less about convincing people of any measure of objective competence and more about inspiring loyalty, which both Nick and Ye have been very good at in different ways, through many ups and downs.

Do you objectively disagree with them? Then criticize them on that ground. But the never-ending "that's a bad move, now he'll look crazy" is a tired canard that needs to be put to bed. It has no use, since we are already getting shaken up in the inner whirls of the Kali Yuga, metaphorically speaking. From now on, whatever you think "makes sense" strategically will have to take a backseat to the one and only question "whom am I loyal to".
On optics: Optics in the Fuentes sense was about people not getting the wrong idea, not about giving in to people screeching about whether you can say something or not. Nick has never cared about that, that is not what optics means. Ye cannot really be called a Nazi in common perception, so he's got leeway. Also, he's got A LOT of negroes to speak about what's happening, and they ARE a monolithic vote.
Ye saying "I love Hitler" does not make people go "oof, neonazi" it makes them look up the video and find out what he said. He's a big enough fish do accomplish that.
 

Denam8487

Robin
Catholic
Do you objectively disagree with them? Then criticize them on that ground. But the never-ending "that's a bad move, now he'll look crazy" is a tired canard that needs to be put to bed

I'm reminded of a quote from JFK: "You all got to start thinking on a different level like the CIA does. Now we're through the looking glass here, people. White is black and black is white."

What Kanye is doing is infinitely more effective on a deep, subconscious level than your typical GOP hack in a suit and tie talking about the GDP, how AOC is a socialist, and how America just needs to unify. If you have to resemble Mike Pence, Ron Desantis or Tim Scott to get in with the GOP then you're ultimately harmless to the established order.

Kanye unapologetically calling out Jews without having to do the usual humiliation ritual apology tour of visiting the Holocaust museum, doing a press release with a Rabbi and writing a book report on "Goy Privilege" for Bari Weiss feels like one of the most authentic wins Christian conservatives have had in a long time and it inspires confidence.
 
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