Nick Fuentes
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I like Nick, I love his energy, I love the work he has put in, but he is in no way ready for this. I wish he would reach out to the NJP, he has already had multiple opportunities to make Jones look like a clown with his talking points. Dumb things like "Hitler took the guns", no in fact Hitler INCREASED private firearm ownership and rights.
How many times are you gonna bring up NJP in this thread? Really man, you have to be delusional to think that NJP has anything to offer Nick. Nick has broken into mainstream culture whereas NJP is still (and forever will be) relegated to their small online niche.
After that softball interview he couldn’t even hit out of the park, he needs their help. Like it or not, they will be the final answer.
The goal isn’t “the mainstream”, it is simply the full truth and trying to capture the mainstream and not the truth leaves you with a softball interview that you can’t knock out if the park.
Easy_C
Peacock
The reason why is because any business he opens an account with probably gets threatened by the feds to either drop him or face investigation and audits under anti-terrorism laws.
Easy_C
Peacock
Not actually true. My old mentor gave me a first hand account of the Nazi officer coming to take weapons from his family in Austria (which was conveniently “forgotten” after the officer noticed an Iron Cross on display and they began swapping war stories over Schnapps).
Not stating this for your edification as much as making a point about the forum and general myopic assertions of others....
You realize you're gonna run into those who are so into the anti narrative that neither your nor others life experiences, be they a wwII/Korea/Vietnam vet ect...we might have met stories are valid... Because they're into the anti US story it's not going to be accepted as there's a middle ground.
The lack of worldly life experience of the America Bad side of the coin has some convinced that if they attack our own narratives of the truth it's better than the middle ground.
I am not happy with the current state of affairs but the trend among some on the forum is making me feel like this place is an echo chamber of those who offer nothing but detraction and live only on the internet. (Not you @easy)
Apparently it's controversial to bring people's Back to reality, America is not perfect... But we are way far and away better than the alternatives in the west...
Everyone can call me soft if they want, but here is what I am seeing from my rosy-colored glasses:
- Alex Jones
- Tim Pool
- Gavin McInnes
Have more reach combined than any other mainstream media outlet.
And all of them have said "oh goodness, this cannot be, I disagree with you... please tell me what you are all about."
And they have provided a platform for Ye and Nick unlike any other ever seen in our lifetime.
Time and space and reach.
Their protestations are weak but just enough for plausible deniability.
They MAY actually be helping. And actively.
- Alex Jones
- Tim Pool
- Gavin McInnes
Have more reach combined than any other mainstream media outlet.
And all of them have said "oh goodness, this cannot be, I disagree with you... please tell me what you are all about."
And they have provided a platform for Ye and Nick unlike any other ever seen in our lifetime.
Time and space and reach.
Their protestations are weak but just enough for plausible deniability.
They MAY actually be helping. And actively.
Gun restrictions were loosened for Germans after the Nazi's replaced the failed Weimar state, but they were tightened on Jews and Communist party members, due to their attempt to overthrow the govt. in a communist revolution in 1919 that left thousands of Germans dead.
America is just another proxy state of "the west" or in reality, the "satanic west". It is no better or worse than another western country. Some things here are better, some are worse. All in all, there is no decent future under this regime but at the same time there is no opposition to the regime so the slow fall into darkness is speeding up, like water draining out of a tub. We are now circling the drain and there is no one with enough power to even slow it down.
I've lived a ton of life in this country. I can't sit at home, I am just not wired like that, I get depressed if I am not out and I get anxious if I am not working/working out/improving myself. And since I was young, going back to the mid 1980's, I wanted to know why everything was backwards here. Why do women want abusive bad men? Why do people who work hard get paid so little, but people who "know people" make so much? Why do women spend so much time and money at a "beauty parlor" and look like that? Why do men not get upset when they are required to do all the hard work, take on all the stress, and still call women their equals?
These are legit questions I was asking in the 1980's and 90's, long before I got to this point. I eventually just figured it was how things work and there was something wrong with me. But things kept getting worse and worse. My goal was to just save enough money to get the hell out of the USA. At that time western Europe was not flooded with violent people and offered me far more. But that all soon changed. I could never save enough to get out with as bad as economy got in the early 2000's and Europe was going down the drain as well.
So, I had to find the answers. I can't just say "oh well, everything is evil, and I don't want to know why, not my problem". It is my problem, a huge problem I deal with every waking moment. I've spent 22 years, working 7 days a week, living like a pauper just to get out of the USA. I've made some great investments that most would not be able to make. I've worked sick, tired, hurt. I don't take vacations, I never dated, I wear clothes given to me as presents until they have holes in them. I find dimes on the floor, I cut my calories for years and lost size. I have tried everything to save enough to just get out. I can't make it, and my field was one of the highest paid when I graduated college over 2 decades ago.
Maybe things are okay for you, but I can guarantee you, at the rate things are going bad in this country, it will come for you as well. I'm not a dummy (I scored off the charts in standardized testing, yet my commonsense intelligence is much higher), I'm not weak, I have been fighting this battle for decades. It is only getting worse and there is only one way out, and it is to face up to this nightmare and stop thinking some puppet politician will make anything better.
All I want is to get out of this hellhole, and I doubt I can ever make it, at least not in time to enjoy anything. So the next thing I can do is warn you younger guys of what is going on and what plans they have in mind for you.
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A good test is if they allow David Duke on. I doubt they ever do that, but if they do, the result would make Ye/Nick look like they didn't even scratch the surface.
But I agree, at least these guys gave Nick and Ye a platform, unfortunately they were not fully prepared for it, and it might be the last chance they get.
MusicForThePiano
Pelican
Caught this late. I would have called in. Next time then. The callers seem to be almost staged (likely not but seem like damage control or detracting from the main ideas, though I suspect many are just uneducated on the deeper aspects of history). Some of our knowledge here must be leaked to larger audiences. Alex's damage control for "Hitler bad, Nazi bad" stories are completely lame. The overall eugenicist / depopulation agenda was fought back against by Hitler's Germany. Women were encouraged to become mothers, and given governmental incentives for more children. Abortion was not pushed. The first two laws Hitler passed when his party came into office was to ban pornography and ban interest rates (usury is a sin). The biggest details that need to be laid out are first, the below-the-belt moves that the international media and the other European countries (under Jewish monetary influence) used to shanghai Germany into using physical force to save its own diaspora in its former territories, which catapulted the sanctions and the threats of war particularly from Britain and France onto them, and the sheer ridiculousness of the holocaust ponzi scheme if they're going to dive into the farcical grievance lobby.
Nick is just a kid, but he's right, we are in a war here. In this war, truth is the biggest bomb anyone can launch at their enemy.
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It really is alien to me that people still buy this nonsense. I am around/understand how people buy the nonsense of the left, mostly because they either benefit from it or are scared to go against it. But the fact there are people who still buy the Con Inc. talking points, it really is shocking. Who are these people? 95-105 IQ people who will say "I'm not the smartest person..." and then think they have things all figured out because Tucker Carlson or their dad told them something 40 years ago. These people still exist? What?
MusicForThePiano
Pelican
I was typing but ran out of time to edit my post above. Continuing from there, these are the things that need to be talked about in retrospect of any WWII era conversation.
Hitler was not part of the early globalist agenda nor was his party funded by them. If you were an agent of depopulation and eugenics then starving your people would be the easiest thing to do. He did the opposite. The economic recovery and all this crap about "the globalists and the bushes financing Hitler" is the biggest load of dradle-manure ever. There is so much confusion about the economics under Hitler. People do not often understand the differences between peacetime economy and wartime economy. There was both central planning, and allowance for the market to form its own path. The Volksgemeinschaft, or national community was the first of its kind to offer higher wages and the most benefits to workers. Every other foreign corporation that was major at the time started investing in the German economy during these years. Alex Jones talks about Hitler blackmailing poorer Germans using foreign-living Germans of high finance in the USA. Utter trash. The German labor model was designed to allow social mobility through the ladder of ability, something which Hitler admired from the American model. The Third Reich was inclined to favor ordinary Germans over any elite group.
The Treaty of Versailles is always mentioned as an offshoot but no one ever delves into it, nor Germany's history in the 1700s and 1800s or the two thousand years before that, and Alex Jones never talks about the degenerate repulsiveness of the Weimar era. Alex Jones' stories of his grandfathers sounds very nebulous. I can recall exact stories to a detail that my great uncles had with SS officers when they were visited in their country. Living on the coast with several geographically unofficial ports had a lot of sea traffic coming to their remote homestead and local villages. From having breakfast in an inn to walking down dirt roads talking about cars, something my uncles were fascinated with as many countries did not have a lot of cars for regular citizens at the time. At least one man on the German crew could always speak English. Other times they traded supplies with U-boat crews. The war rations were hitting everyone in Europe hard after 1939, but even then the stoic Germanic trait of selflessness, carved into charity by a millennia of Christianity, showed everywhere they went. My grandmother was just a girl when a German sailor gave her a huge net sack of oranges, something that they would only have found once a season until later in the 40s when the governments finally eased on food restrictions. Her father made use of them for a good two weeks feeding her seven siblings along with their stored produce, meat, and grain, to her it was like Christmas had come early.
I'm not on here to recruit people into a Hitler fan club. There were many other leaders in the 20th century who opposed Communism and the NWO, but they are relegated to footnotes or smeared as being Nazi collaborators. However, Adolf is the closest example of a shattering force to the Antichrist system (Bolshevism/Marxism/Communism) and a learning point every one should be studying every detail of to fully understand the world they were born into and what we can do to change it based on what we know is coming versus what our own idealistic expectations are. All faithful and learned men should educate themselves from his successes and mistakes. I will never understand why he was a vegetarian, but I know that he also embodied one of the classic traits in simple Germanic types that Julius Caesar wrote about in his "Commentari de Bello Gallico," which was sort of a straight-edge tendency, not chasing after women, smoking, or drinking, or displaying vulgarity. The allegations of severe drug use in certain (((books))) by Hitler are also facetious. He was a disabled combat veteran with likely neurological damage that was starting to effect his daily life, as was evident the older he became. The toll of having half the world united in deception against Germany also seemed to age him faster. If he had lived he likely would have been wheelchair-bound within a decade. There were many things about the man that are more ordinary than ever, but something about his love for his people gave him the extra gear to push beyond his own limits. No human will ever come within a million miles of Our Lord and Savior, but there are men out there who defy the world and I believe God allows this to those who have the gusto to reach for it. Few men come close to mortal legendary status, and I believe this mans reputation will be vindicated before the end, along with every other figure in history that tried to right the world against the onslaught of the devils ilk, be they a saint, a virtuous pagan, or somewhere in between (Constantine, Augustus, Edgar the Peaceable)
Jesus is the only one due worship, not Allah, Buddha, or any mortal men. But these exceptional men must be studied and the lies must be refuted if we as normal men are ever to arrive at a divine stewardship of the flock of nations, wards and congregations that God has commanded us to preach the Word to and bring into Him. All historical falsehoods must be rooted from under their dirty rocks and driven out.
Hitler was not part of the early globalist agenda nor was his party funded by them. If you were an agent of depopulation and eugenics then starving your people would be the easiest thing to do. He did the opposite. The economic recovery and all this crap about "the globalists and the bushes financing Hitler" is the biggest load of dradle-manure ever. There is so much confusion about the economics under Hitler. People do not often understand the differences between peacetime economy and wartime economy. There was both central planning, and allowance for the market to form its own path. The Volksgemeinschaft, or national community was the first of its kind to offer higher wages and the most benefits to workers. Every other foreign corporation that was major at the time started investing in the German economy during these years. Alex Jones talks about Hitler blackmailing poorer Germans using foreign-living Germans of high finance in the USA. Utter trash. The German labor model was designed to allow social mobility through the ladder of ability, something which Hitler admired from the American model. The Third Reich was inclined to favor ordinary Germans over any elite group.
The Treaty of Versailles is always mentioned as an offshoot but no one ever delves into it, nor Germany's history in the 1700s and 1800s or the two thousand years before that, and Alex Jones never talks about the degenerate repulsiveness of the Weimar era. Alex Jones' stories of his grandfathers sounds very nebulous. I can recall exact stories to a detail that my great uncles had with SS officers when they were visited in their country. Living on the coast with several geographically unofficial ports had a lot of sea traffic coming to their remote homestead and local villages. From having breakfast in an inn to walking down dirt roads talking about cars, something my uncles were fascinated with as many countries did not have a lot of cars for regular citizens at the time. At least one man on the German crew could always speak English. Other times they traded supplies with U-boat crews. The war rations were hitting everyone in Europe hard after 1939, but even then the stoic Germanic trait of selflessness, carved into charity by a millennia of Christianity, showed everywhere they went. My grandmother was just a girl when a German sailor gave her a huge net sack of oranges, something that they would only have found once a season until later in the 40s when the governments finally eased on food restrictions. Her father made use of them for a good two weeks feeding her seven siblings along with their stored produce, meat, and grain, to her it was like Christmas had come early.
I'm not on here to recruit people into a Hitler fan club. There were many other leaders in the 20th century who opposed Communism and the NWO, but they are relegated to footnotes or smeared as being Nazi collaborators. However, Adolf is the closest example of a shattering force to the Antichrist system (Bolshevism/Marxism/Communism) and a learning point every one should be studying every detail of to fully understand the world they were born into and what we can do to change it based on what we know is coming versus what our own idealistic expectations are. All faithful and learned men should educate themselves from his successes and mistakes. I will never understand why he was a vegetarian, but I know that he also embodied one of the classic traits in simple Germanic types that Julius Caesar wrote about in his "Commentari de Bello Gallico," which was sort of a straight-edge tendency, not chasing after women, smoking, or drinking, or displaying vulgarity. The allegations of severe drug use in certain (((books))) by Hitler are also facetious. He was a disabled combat veteran with likely neurological damage that was starting to effect his daily life, as was evident the older he became. The toll of having half the world united in deception against Germany also seemed to age him faster. If he had lived he likely would have been wheelchair-bound within a decade. There were many things about the man that are more ordinary than ever, but something about his love for his people gave him the extra gear to push beyond his own limits. No human will ever come within a million miles of Our Lord and Savior, but there are men out there who defy the world and I believe God allows this to those who have the gusto to reach for it. Few men come close to mortal legendary status, and I believe this mans reputation will be vindicated before the end, along with every other figure in history that tried to right the world against the onslaught of the devils ilk, be they a saint, a virtuous pagan, or somewhere in between (Constantine, Augustus, Edgar the Peaceable)
Jesus is the only one due worship, not Allah, Buddha, or any mortal men. But these exceptional men must be studied and the lies must be refuted if we as normal men are ever to arrive at a divine stewardship of the flock of nations, wards and congregations that God has commanded us to preach the Word to and bring into Him. All historical falsehoods must be rooted from under their dirty rocks and driven out.
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Yes @MusicForThePiano , great post.
It is one thing for Alex Jones to lie over and over about WW2. But it boils my blood when he claims he is an expert due to studying the history of WW2 and then says these really dumb things than can be disproven in a simple Google search and about 2 minutes.
"George Soros was a Nazi that rounded up Jews" - might be the most dishonest lie I have ever heard.
It is one thing for Alex Jones to lie over and over about WW2. But it boils my blood when he claims he is an expert due to studying the history of WW2 and then says these really dumb things than can be disproven in a simple Google search and about 2 minutes.
"George Soros was a Nazi that rounded up Jews" - might be the most dishonest lie I have ever heard.
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Duke actually has a 2 hour call-in show every Sunday night on https://speakfreeradio.com at 8 p.m. Not a big venue but there are some interesting discussions.
Yea, I have listened to him before, he is very interesting. He knows his stuff so well that it is almost as shocking as he is polite and gentleman like.
There is no way Jones would give him 2 hours to talk. He gave him a few minutes and then shut him down as soon as he brought up anything of importance.
Well said. It is surprising to see the denial of historical evidence made by some in defense of Nazism while accusing those of us who have actually read source material from a triangulation of sources, including our own relatives, of being biased. It seems that
For those interested in historical data, like, you know, actual policies in Nazi Germany: http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=1521
This law gave the Reich the power to sterilize anyone, including minors, for having “defects,” including mental defects (can’t imagine that power being abused!). The Nazis were a secular regime who took anti-Christian evolutionary “science” to its logical conclusion. Hitler went on to authorize euthanasia for these people, including children (https://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=1528).
Do not mistake me: The U.S. and others had racial hygiene advocates as well. And it fell out of vogue due to wartime propaganda against the Nazis. But make no mistake of Nazi eugenics either. It was an appalling secularist regime.
This squares with key Nazi views of Christianity, such as Himmler saying “We must settle accounts with this Christianity, this greatest of plagues that could have happened to us in our history, which has weakened us in every conflict” because Christians placed too much stock in the value of mankind (https://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_document.cfm?document_id=1573). People can claim that Himmler and Hitler were not on the same page here, but the Reich’s replacement of the traditional churches and ministers with pro-regime stooges tells a different story.
Questioning the (((narrative))) does not mean one has to defend Nazism. If anything, one could argue the latter does a disservice to the former.