Nick Fuentes

2 Right Hands

Woodpecker
Catholic
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This was my impression too. Gabe might be a good guy, his work exposing pedophiles is obviously highly commendable but he's clearly not acting in good faith when it comes to Nick. He's trying to smear him by association because one of the guys that showed up to Nick's rally has been accused of pedophilia. It's insincere and clearly comes from the fact that he's Jewish and Nick's an anitsemite (Milo's conversation with Gabe seems to have proven it). And resorting to mud slinging with long debunked fake news ("Nick's gay", "Nick watches tranny porn") was so weak and feminine it was hard to listen.
 

Tom Slick

Kingfisher
Orthodox
The only thing Nick flubbed up on was remembering a part of the convo as being said explicitly by Gabe, rather than the fact that it was said by Milo and essentially glossed over by Gabe.
Not knowing the background, this is the thing that really grabbed my attention.

I too listened to this live, and then re-listened again, later.

I came away with a completely different view of the exchange.

Gabe clearly wanted to infer that Nick has something to do with child abuse because this other dude Latino Zoomer was charged with something. So he invented a hilariously stretched reasoning to use a term "key lieutenant", which Nick correctly identified as "that's saying I am giving him marching orders and he is carrying them out."
I did not know about the child porn accusations Gabe was referring to as I hadn't looked at his recent tweets. Now it's clear what the conflict was about. It looks like Gabe is going after Nick for the anti-semitic angle and using associations with AF people and groypers who've been accused of child porn or comments in Nick's discord.

So Milo and Nick were defending against very poorly established guilt-by-association accusations. Considering Nick's, let's say marital status, this is not a credible attack against him.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
Dunno if anybody has talked about this yet, but I found it weird that when Fuentes starting hanging around Kanye he ditched his suits and general dapper appearance and started wearing a hoodie and looking like a homeless person. What is that about?

Very true. Nick needs to put his suit on. Just because Ye dresses in grub gear doesn't mean Nick should.

The movement needs suits and ties. Not Balenciaga and Sweatsuits
 

Zach

Sparrow
Catholic
Very true. Nick needs to put his suit on. Just because Ye dresses in grub gear doesn't mean Nick should.

The movement needs suits and ties. Not Balenciaga and Sweatsuits

It's called mirroring. Nick is appealing to Ye's sense of style and fashion. A young movement does not need suits and ties. That'd be a boomer movement. Kvetch about lowered fashion standards all you want, its the reality.

As things progess I'm sure we'll move to suits and ties, but for now, I see nothing wrong with appearing authentic during interviews.

Lets not get the cart before the horse.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox

Interesting debate. I think Alex Jones won.

Nick is a good debater, but he couldn't respond to three issues:

1. Are there Jews behind the push towards trans-humanism and the NWO?

2. Why did Israel lock down and push the clot shots, if the Jews truly run the world?

3. What about Jewish doctors like Vladimir Zelenko and Simone Gold who have been ruthlessly persecuted for their COVID stance?
 

Iacobus

Robin
Orthodox
Interesting debate. I think Alex Jones won.

Nick is a good debater, but he couldn't respond to three issues:

1. Are there Jews behind the push towards trans-humanism and the NWO?

2. Why did Israel lock down and push the clot shots, if the Jews truly run the world?

3. What about Jewish doctors like Vladimir Zelenko and Simone Gold who have been ruthlessly persecuted for their COVID stance?

(1) is an obvious yes, shame on Nick if he couldn't answer that (haven't watched the full debate as I don't really like Jones' inability to stick to a point for debates).

2 and 3 seem like making a strawman that Nick is saying literally every single Jew is evil and in direct cahoots with each conspiracy which is not his position at all as I understand.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Interesting debate. I think Alex Jones won.

Nick is a good debater, but he couldn't respond to three issues:

1. Are there Jews behind the push towards trans-humanism and the NWO?

2. Why did Israel lock down and push the clot shots, if the Jews truly run the world?

3. What about Jewish doctors like Vladimir Zelenko and Simone Gold who have been ruthlessly persecuted for their COVID stance?
Israel locked down and pushed the vaccine because the virus is a real thing, I personally got it, but it wasn't bad for me, and the vaccine was a hope/rush project because the globalist economic system would collapse if everyone stayed home forever.

It just turned out the shot was a giant disaster and they really don't have a medical answer for covid, other than what they have been saying not to do for decades, which is..

- eat healthy
- workout
- take vitamins
- get plenty of sun
- get stress out of your life
 

Akaky Akakievitch

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Interesting debate. I think Alex Jones won.

Nick is a good debater, but he couldn't respond to three issues:

1. Are there Jews behind the push towards trans-humanism and the NWO?

2. Why did Israel lock down and push the clot shots, if the Jews truly run the world?

3. What about Jewish doctors like Vladimir Zelenko and Simone Gold who have been ruthlessly persecuted for their COVID stance?

Well i'd struggle to say it was either of them, I think the Turmeric supplements were the real winner....

Those constant ad breaks stifle any deep debate or proper fleshing out of issues, the interruptions were very frustrating for me as a viewer, and Nick did well to put up with them. AJ said at the end of the interview, 'maybe next time we could do it without the interruptions' -- but why didn't he reserve the time for Nick the first time round as he knew many eyes would be on his post-interview roundup? The supplements had more airtime than the actual debate, from what it seemed. I understand he's running a business, but after airing arguably the most significant interview of the year then running a follow-up debate for it, one could hope for less interruptions.

I hope they do it again soon with an uninterrupted hour at least, JRE style, that would be much more conducive to critical thinking and surface deeper points of view than we have already witnessed.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Well i'd struggle to say it was either of them, I think the Turmeric supplements were the real winner....

Those constant ad breaks stifle any deep debate or proper fleshing out of issues, the interruptions were very frustrating for me as a viewer, and Nick did well to put up with them. AJ said at the end of the interview, 'maybe next time we could do it without the interruptions' -- but why didn't he reserve the time for Nick the first time round as he knew many eyes would be on his post-interview roundup? The supplements had more airtime than the actual debate, from what it seemed. I understand he's running a business, but after airing arguably the most significant interview of the year then running a follow-up debate for it, one could hope for less interruptions.

I hope they do it again soon with an uninterrupted hour at least, JRE style, that would be much more conducive to critical thinking and surface deeper points of view than we have already witnessed.
If Alex has Nick back on I will be pleasantly surprised. I was surprised he had him on to start with after the Ye interview. It went much as I expected, I think Nick needs to do a lot more research on WW2 and current charity fraud among the elites, before going on such a big platform. All in all, it didn't go badly, and Nick did a great job with the interruptions of staying on point. Which is why I can't see Alex letting Nick back on again. But I hope I am wrong.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
(1) is an obvious yes, shame on Nick if he couldn't answer that (haven't watched the full debate as I don't really like Jones' inability to stick to a point for debates).

2 and 3 seem like making a strawman that Nick is saying literally every single Jew is evil and in direct cahoots with each conspiracy which is not his position at all as I understand.

Nick called the NWO/transhumanist agenda 'esoteric.'. He dismissed it, which suggests ignorance on his part.

The JQ folk have not, as far as I know, convincingly answered the question of why Israel locked down and mandated the clot shot. Are they suggesting that the Jewish elite enjoy killing their fellow Jews?

(If so, this might be plausible -- see the Evian Conference in 1938. However, that just confirms Alex Jones's thesis.)

Also, how do we explain the Jewish presence in the narrative against COVID? Jessica Rose, Simone Gold, Steve Kirsch, Vladimir Zelenko, Harvey Risch, Ira Bernstein, Aryeh Avni, and other Jews have risked their careers to fight against the narrative.

To be clear, I am not advocating Alex Jones's position. I do not see a political way out of this mess, and libertarians have been on a losing streak since 1776. I just find Alex to be more convincing in this debate, while Nick was ill-prepared.
 

eradicator

Crow
Agnostic
Gold Member
The shots were always about control, not health or safety. The Jews that run Israel aren’t getting the shots but are forcing their countrymen to.

If Kanye talks about Jews owning the record labels and they want more gangster rap to keep black people enslaved and killing each other, he’s talking about a small number of elites, who are all Jewish.

There isn’t a playbook at all of the synagogues that all Jews share to enslave black people.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
The shots were always about control, not health or safety. The Jews that run Israel aren’t getting the shots but are forcing their countrymen to.

If Kanye talks about Jews owning the record labels and they want more gangster rap to keep black people enslaved and killing each other, he’s talking about a small number of elites, who are all Jewish.

There isn’t a playbook at all of the synagogues that all Jews share to enslave black people.

I agree that the shots are about control, but if that's the only thing they were for, then why make them so dangerous? Why not just inject people with saline?

This still doesn't explain why Israel poisoned its own people.
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I agree that the shots are about control, but if that's the only thing they were for, then why make them so dangerous? Why not just inject people with saline?

This still doesn't explain why Israel poisoned its own people.
These are legitimate questions. Part of the answer, my best guess at least, is that the shot is about depopulation first and foremost. They share many things in line or league with the agenda, which is control, fear, slavery (eventually if it's not here) and depop. The eventual system has all of these features: my theory is that when you control and surveille, you can then decide who and what you want to keep, or not. Elites in all countries think they are better locally than the rest, so Israel overall as a nation would be no real exception, in terms of how many should remain. The question is what percentage will.
 

Papaya

Peacock
Gold Member
I agree that the shots are about control, but if that's the only thing they were for, then why make them so dangerous? Why not just inject people with saline?

This still doesn't explain why Israel poisoned its own people.
If you accept what Anonymous Bosch so seemingly presciently posited several years ago about the two competing factions within ZOG it all makes sense.

I'm paraphrasing...

Zionists vs Reformists

Both anti-European Christian however:

The Zionists are essentially pro Israel and see the ZOG agenda as a state tool. They view the Reformists as atheistic jooz

The Reformists are actually the of the Sabbatean , Frankfurt school inversion agenda. They see the Zionists as secular from their POV which is essentially Satanist

Soros and his ilk are of the latter camp and actually hate the average joo as much as Christians. They are all fodder to be sacrificed for the Sabbatean / Inversion agenda that needs to bring about enough, death, despair, darkness and suffering as to induce the arrival of The Messiah

I wish I could find AB's posts on the subject. In hindsight they were prophetic in many regards and illuminating when the last 3 years are considered
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
Because class differences exist and nearly all wealthy elites truly hate the unwashed masses, even when they are the same ethnicity.

Yes, but that just proves Alex Jones's point.
These are legitimate questions. Part of the answer, my best guess at least, is that the shot is about depopulation first and foremost. They share many things in line or league with the agenda, which is control, fear, slavery (eventually if it's not here) and depop. The eventual system has all of these features: my theory is that when you control and surveille, you can then decide who and what you want to keep, or not. Elites in all countries think they are better locally than the rest, so Israel overall as a nation would be no real exception, in terms of how many should remain. The question is what percentage will.

I agree, but this is exactly Alex Jones's point.

If you accept what Anonymous Bosch so seemingly presciently posited several years ago about the two competing factions within ZOG it all makes sense.

I'm paraphrasing...

Zionists vs Reformists

Both anti-European Christian however:

The Zionists are essentially pro Israel and see the ZOG agenda as a state tool. They view the Reformists as atheistic jooz

The Reformists are actually the of the Sabbatean , Frankfurt school inversion agenda. They see the Zionists as secular from their POV which is essentially Satanist

Soros and his ilk are of the latter camp and actually hate the average joo as much as Christians. They are all fodder to be sacrificed for the Sabbatean / Inversion agenda that needs to bring about enough, death, despair, darkness and suffering as to induce the arrival of The Messiah

I wish I could find AB's posts on the subject. In hindsight they were prophetic in many regards and illuminating when the last 3 years are considered

This seems plausible, and I have heard this theory before.

But it still begs the question as to why Israel would kills its own people.

Are you saying the Reformists plotted to kill the Zionist Jews in Israel? What is the proof of this? Do the Reformists really hate their own people so much that they would kill them, instead of using their energy to kill white Europeans?
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Yes, but that just proves Alex Jones's point.


I agree, but this is exactly Alex Jones's point.



This seems plausible, and I have heard this theory before.

But it still begs the question as to why Israel would kills its own people.

Are you saying the Reformists plotted to kill the Zionist Jews in Israel? What is the proof of this? Do the Reformists really hate their own people so much that they would kill them, instead of using their energy to kill white Europeans?
Maybe the vaccine was a legit and too quick of an attempt to try to curb covid and get people back to work. If people just continued to sit at home, then the elite's economy would collapse. So, they were in a full panic to get everyone back to work and rushed a vaccine out too fast.

People not working and the economy collapsing is a huge fear of the elites. The vaccine got everyone back to work. They covered themselves by shutting down any potential civil suits against the vaccine.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Ostrich
Orthodox
Maybe the vaccine was a legit and too quick of an attempt to try to curb covid and get people back to work. If people just continued to sit at home, then the elite's economy would collapse. So, they were in a full panic to get everyone back to work and rushed a vaccine out too fast.

People not working and the economy collapsing is a huge fear of the elites. The vaccine got everyone back to work. They covered themselves by shutting down any potential civil suits against the vaccine.

That's possible, but seems unlikely given Event 201, Crimson Contagion, Operation Lockstep, and Agenda 2030, all of which were planned prior to the 'pandemic.' Some of these cases studies even foretold of ad poisonous vaccine.
 
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