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<blockquote data-quote="get2choppaaa" data-source="post: 1479510" data-attributes="member: 17150"><p>Can it be that both are the case? Muslims are not our friend and that Jews are not our friend either?</p><p></p><p>Can it be that a fanatical religion practiced by people with IQ's capping out around 85 are prone to violent behavior to include blowing themselves up, yet are armed by the very governments they hate (in an effort for those governments to use these aggressive actions to force the need for stabilization through global order/military control and instituting economic hegemony over those new lands?)</p><p></p><p>Can it also be that the Jews also believe that Chutzpah and Tikun Olam mandates them to create a Davidian type empire over the middle east?</p><p></p><p>Can it be that there are countries like Syria that have a large Christian presence are on one side opposing Israel and yet countries like Saudi Arabia can be on the same side as Israel?</p><p></p><p>There are not really any "good guys" here. Everyone is acting in their own self interest.</p><p></p><p>I agree that we should not be funding any of these countries.</p><p></p><p>Israel has plenty of smart people. Figure it out.</p><p></p><p>Palestine has plenty of people who can fight for themselves.</p><p></p><p> Lets let them fight it out on their own.</p><p></p><p>There is no great peace solution for any of these countries. We may provide stability only to have instability later. </p><p></p><p>To me it is just like Libya. I saw ISIS try to set up camp there in Sirte (or Surt/Sirt/Syrte ect...) following Ghadaffi's death by broomstick rape thanks to France and the other NATO countries... meanwhile, there were children being blown up by their own mothers while their fathers hid in tunnels. We serviced the ISIS folks there (blew up some universities/infrastructure/tourist beach houses in the process) and now there is an more fighting there between rival factions 5 years later. When I was involved we had Russian force (who acts just like a military empire like the US, just doesn't have the logistics and world reserve currency to be as successful) backing one side, a US force backing one side and both fighting together against ISIS. Now we just have rival factions in the same gov fighting a civil war over the area.</p><p></p><p>Many of these people are savages who are tribal in nature. There is never going to be a peaceful solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="get2choppaaa, post: 1479510, member: 17150"] Can it be that both are the case? Muslims are not our friend and that Jews are not our friend either? Can it be that a fanatical religion practiced by people with IQ's capping out around 85 are prone to violent behavior to include blowing themselves up, yet are armed by the very governments they hate (in an effort for those governments to use these aggressive actions to force the need for stabilization through global order/military control and instituting economic hegemony over those new lands?) Can it also be that the Jews also believe that Chutzpah and Tikun Olam mandates them to create a Davidian type empire over the middle east? Can it be that there are countries like Syria that have a large Christian presence are on one side opposing Israel and yet countries like Saudi Arabia can be on the same side as Israel? There are not really any "good guys" here. Everyone is acting in their own self interest. I agree that we should not be funding any of these countries. Israel has plenty of smart people. Figure it out. Palestine has plenty of people who can fight for themselves. Lets let them fight it out on their own. There is no great peace solution for any of these countries. We may provide stability only to have instability later. To me it is just like Libya. I saw ISIS try to set up camp there in Sirte (or Surt/Sirt/Syrte ect...) following Ghadaffi's death by broomstick rape thanks to France and the other NATO countries... meanwhile, there were children being blown up by their own mothers while their fathers hid in tunnels. We serviced the ISIS folks there (blew up some universities/infrastructure/tourist beach houses in the process) and now there is an more fighting there between rival factions 5 years later. When I was involved we had Russian force (who acts just like a military empire like the US, just doesn't have the logistics and world reserve currency to be as successful) backing one side, a US force backing one side and both fighting together against ISIS. Now we just have rival factions in the same gov fighting a civil war over the area. Many of these people are savages who are tribal in nature. There is never going to be a peaceful solution. [/QUOTE]
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