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<blockquote data-quote="Athanasius" data-source="post: 1479570" data-attributes="member: 16809"><p>[ATTACH=full]31154[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>This is a false dichotomy. Both parties are correct. Muslims are the main persecutors of Christians worldwide (there are 125x - 150x more Muslims than Jews on the planet). Elite Jews are wealthy and a far worse influence in the west. The persecution they fund and support tends to be more nuanced-- censorship, open borders, promotion of degeneracy, hate crime laws, etc.</p><p></p><p>When someone on the right goes on about islamofascism to someone else on the right, you have to ask what bloc on the right believes Islam is harmless or that what America needs is a Muslim influx? It seems like Conservative Inc style pandering. There are a ton of people on the right, though, who don't understand long-standing Jewish hostility to Christianity and how that has played out via NGOs, open borders, and the things Torba mentions. Fuentes is I think trying to wake these people up to reality. The actions of those who rejected the chief cornerstone 2,000 years ago and those today who continue to do so aren't so dissimilar.</p><p></p><p>There's a way to be balanced about the topic. The church has been balanced about it for much of its history. Balanced doesn't mean doing nothing, pretending the real issue is Democrats, tone policing, or otherwise wondering darkly if those who criticize Jews support a virtual Holocaust. It means acting to protect the interests of one's church / nation (stopping the subversion) while also practicing Christian charity toward the Jews.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Athanasius, post: 1479570, member: 16809"] [ATTACH type="full" width="449px" alt="1622073138213.png"]31154[/ATTACH] This is a false dichotomy. Both parties are correct. Muslims are the main persecutors of Christians worldwide (there are 125x - 150x more Muslims than Jews on the planet). Elite Jews are wealthy and a far worse influence in the west. The persecution they fund and support tends to be more nuanced-- censorship, open borders, promotion of degeneracy, hate crime laws, etc. When someone on the right goes on about islamofascism to someone else on the right, you have to ask what bloc on the right believes Islam is harmless or that what America needs is a Muslim influx? It seems like Conservative Inc style pandering. There are a ton of people on the right, though, who don't understand long-standing Jewish hostility to Christianity and how that has played out via NGOs, open borders, and the things Torba mentions. Fuentes is I think trying to wake these people up to reality. The actions of those who rejected the chief cornerstone 2,000 years ago and those today who continue to do so aren't so dissimilar. There's a way to be balanced about the topic. The church has been balanced about it for much of its history. Balanced doesn't mean doing nothing, pretending the real issue is Democrats, tone policing, or otherwise wondering darkly if those who criticize Jews support a virtual Holocaust. It means acting to protect the interests of one's church / nation (stopping the subversion) while also practicing Christian charity toward the Jews. [/QUOTE]
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