No point in working

bucky

Ostrich
Yet, here you are, on a forum designed, created, and administrated by an admitted fornicator with no kids. :laughter::laughter::laughter::laughter::laughter:

That's one of the more ludicrous straw men I've ever seen online, and that's saying a lot. If you know anything at all about Roosh, you know that he openly admits the errors of his former ways, feels terrible about his past, and is trying his best to be a good, honorable Christian now.
 
If you're calling me stupid, well yeah, I am often pretty stupid in a lot of ways. Still, I think any reasonable person who hears you say that "work is for fools" with no further explanation would conclude that you're a layabout and parasite. Don't be that way. I do listen to CC once in a while and I like him. IIRC he runs his own businesses and is not a leech or layabout. If you're doing that, then great. I'd even probably concede that it's superior to wage slaving like I'm doing. Point to CC's example and give us some examples of your own of how you're making your private business work. That would be helpful, as opposed to making dumb, nihilistic statements like "work is for fools."

And again, for the young guys following along, do not let GP or his ilk talk you into dying alone without children. Don't do it, man. Unless you're seriously considering the priesthood, leave dying childless to the cowards, burned out PUAs, and other degenerates.

No, I"m following the forum rules by not doing so. But it's clear you can't grasp what I'm saying and it's ok to disagree. As for kids, the game is not over yet for me either, but I would only do this with a woman that was worth a damn. It's better for the kid in the long run.

And yes, Captain Capitalism has run his business affairs well, but he has made the point that there is little use to make a hell of a lot of money when the state and other parasites vote to take it away from you. He at one point stated early on that he would do enough work for a certain amount of money. You can't out of vote the Free Shit Army. There is a reason I call it 'duh-mocracy'.
 

bucky

Ostrich
No, I"m following the forum rules by not doing so. But it's clear you can't grasp what I'm saying and it's ok to disagree. As for kids, the game is not over yet for me either, but I would only do this with a woman that was worth a damn. It's better for the kid in the long run.

And yes, Captain Capitalism has run his business affairs well, but he has made the point that there is little use to make a hell of a lot of money when the state and other parasites vote to take it away from you. He at one point stated early on that he would do enough work for a certain amount of money. You can't out of vote the Free Shit Army. There is a reason I call it 'duh-mocracy'.

I entirely agree with your last paragraph, but "work is for fools" was a terrible way to make that point. "Work smarter, not harder" might have been better. This is a good example of how when the reader fails to understand the writer's point, it's almost always the writer's fault.

That's great that you consider yourself not "out of the game" as far as having children. Do it, when you've got the right woman. Unless you're a priest or a modern-day Tesla, which you aren't, there's no greater joy in life than a happy family. Hopefully God puts the right woman in your path as he did with me.
 

JiggyLordJr

Kingfisher
This thread has been derailed by a troll. Regarding not working:

I think about this often. We’re at a point in history when the “dullards” of society have little work available to them. Same for many other regular or intelligent people who find their roles now obsolete. Teaching someone “how to code” generally doesn’t cut it; most people don’t have the brain for that, as it requires a bit of autism to excel at. So the question is: what to do? If your skill has thus far paid the bills, and now it just doesn’t, you’re left high and dry. It’s different in Europe, but there are no government programs in the West that help people in this situation. Which is why people turn to the dole. Going from a skilled professional to working at Walmart would drive an intelligent man to suicide. It’s pathetic, demeaning, and poverty inducing. Imaging going from taking pride in your work to serving a globohomo that doesn’t give a shit about you. In situations like these, it’s better to be on the dole (temporarily, at least) and figure out the next steps of your life. Working at Walmart as an adult - or any other dead-end, min-wage job - to ‘pay the bills’ is nothing less than soul-crushing. It also doesn’t leave you much time to upskill when you’re off the clock.

I don’t think anyone is proud to be on the dole, but it certainly beats some of the alternatives. A wise man would use that downtime to figure out his next steps in life. In some cases though, say a 60-year who got laid off, it’s the end of the line, and I think as a society we just have to accept that. The world has changed a lot, and there’s lesser need for certain types of work now. Until that skill gap is closed, the dole will provide for the basic needs of many. Better than starving homeless.
 

Kekemet

Sparrow
I know the truth give some you some butt hurt. :laughter:
Your use of emoticons reminds me of the way women text on whatsapp. In case you can't read, bucky already replied to your straw man by reminding you of the fact that Roosh has said he regrets not having a family and basically kicked off all degenerate behavior from his forum.

I hope you will be happy with your childfree life, looking at your previous post, you didn't even seem to having had a career instead. All you do is talk about capitalism and socialism, I am surprised you haven't figured out yet that this forum is not your libertarian kindergarten.

We actually care about traditions, cultures, peoples. Meanwhile you think you showed the state by chosing the genetic dead end. Wow, I bet the state can't recover from this blow.
 
Be thankful to live somewhere where you can find a job and you're white. The worst is having no control over your life if your stuck in an economically weak region of the world with little manufacturing industry. People go to university to study Polysci and post modern feminism and barely pass and completely slack off. I have a lot of skills but I'm unable to apply them, life is hard work but you're not gonna get anywhere if you're not producing. Someone else is paying your bills and doing work for you, not a good position to be in
 

NoFunInAus

Woodpecker
Can you spell out your plan I'm curious. Liquidate everything, sell almost all your assets, and live cheap as possible?

Yes, along those lines. I have paid enough income tax for me to make the right decisions for my family and GTF out of here and not feel that we get "handouts", which really only means a health-care card.

I started full-time work when I was 17, built up a small portfolio of properties but like I said, the decision has been made. To go on like this I will hurt my family.
 

kel

Pelican
I'd like to see this thread move towards constructive sharing of information about how to drop out of a vampiric social arrangement as much as possible, as I think the above posters largely agree with one another.

Personally, I work. I have the luxury of liking my job (not every second of it, but I'm doing what I've wanted to do since I was 12 years old, so I can't complain) and making a decent buck. I've done pretty well in the stock market, as well, though everyone has because it's all an illusion. I pay a boatload of taxes on that because of the state I live in on top of federal taxes. I'm not against taxation at large, but this money is being at best wasted and at worst stolen by our political class, so I'd like to minimize my contribution to that obviously. That said, I do need to support myself and support the family and community I intend to make. That's important to me, and working is the clearest way of doing that. I'd like to start a little business to give me some independence, but I feel I lack time to deal with all the red tape and I'm not quite sure what exactly I'd do - my day job is what I'm really good at, flipping antiques on ebay or whatever seems like more and harder work for less return - and in the end having a business is still "working", just a smarter and more profitable (if you're good/lucky) way of going about it.

People here who are going full ride-the-decline mode and just not working - what precisely are you doing? How do you feed yourself and your (present or forthcoming) family? Do you feel stable in this arrangement?
 
Your use of emoticons reminds me of the way women text on whatsapp. In case you can't read, bucky already replied to your straw man by reminding you of the fact that Roosh has said he regrets not having a family and basically kicked off all degenerate behavior from his forum.

I hope you will be happy with your childfree life, looking at your previous post, you didn't even seem to having had a career instead. All you do is talk about capitalism and socialism, I am surprised you haven't figured out yet that this forum is not your libertarian kindergarten.

We actually care about traditions, cultures, peoples. Meanwhile you think you showed the state by chosing the genetic dead end. Wow, I bet the state can't recover from this blow.
Again, more butt hurt and ignorance who does not understand my point. So what if Roosh has regrets; my comment still stands. Also, there is no guarantee that your child will be there in the future. Work is really pointless when the state provides incentives for the stupid as Captain Capitalism points out.
 

bucky

Ostrich
Again, more butt hurt and ignorance who does not understand my point. So what if Roosh has regrets; my comment still stands. Also, there is no guarantee that your child will be there in the future. Work is really pointless when the state provides incentives for the stupid as Captain Capitalism points out.

Although there is a guarantee your children won't be there if you never have children. How cowardly to not have children because there's a chance it will go badly.

Work isn't pointless. What a ridiculous thing to say. My career is full of meaning and purpose and I'm grateful to have it, even if I'd prefer to pay less in taxes. I'm not particularly talented or intelligent, so I can't be the only one.

If we're getting your "point" wrong, can you enlighten us? To the typical working man "work is really pointless" sounds like a call to be a layabout and parasite, but if it isn't can you explain what you mean and how you're paying your bills on your own without other people's money? You seem convinced that you're operating on a vastly superior intellectual level to yokels like us who see "work is for fools" as a rationalization for being a willfully unemployed bum, so use simple words and be direct and clear so that we can understand you.
 

Lionheart

Sparrow
I heard a nice quote recently: "If you don't have offspring, you have basically failed as an organism."
Now I know there are some people that don't have kids without it being their own fault, but to make it sound like it is a good idea not to have kids is morally wrong. In addition to that, I personally don't take people in my environment seriously at all, if they don't have kids.
Why would anyone want kids today? You don't actually raise your kids, society does. In 20 years there's a very good chance your sons will be homos and your daughters will be strippers/whores or feminist lesbians. Then you will feel like a failed organism.
 

bucky

Ostrich
Why would anyone want kids today? You don't actually raise your kids, society does. In 20 years there's a very good chance your sons will be homos and your daughters will be strippers/whores or feminist lesbians. Then you will feel like a failed organism.

Have some faith in Christ, man:

10 Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom:

11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

13 And it shall turn to you for a testimony.

14 Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:

15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.

17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

18 But there shall not an hair of your head perish.

19 In your patience possess ye your souls.
 
Although there is a guarantee your children won't be there if you never have children. How cowardly to not have children because there's a chance it will go badly.

Work isn't pointless. What a ridiculous thing to say. My career is full of meaning and purpose and I'm grateful to have it, even if I'd prefer to pay less in taxes. I'm not particularly talented or intelligent, so I can't be the only one.

If we're getting your "point" wrong, can you enlighten us? To the typical working man "work is really pointless" sounds like a call to be a layabout and parasite, but if it isn't can you explain what you mean and how you're paying your bills on your own without other people's money? You seem convinced that you're operating on a vastly superior intellectual level to yokels like us who see "work is for fools" as a rationalization for being a willfully unemployed bum, so use simple words and be direct and clear so that we can understand you.
Where did I make the claim I'm unemployed? STFU already and get some facts. And yes, by work, I mean slaving away in an environment five days a week where the local, state, and federal government confiscate 1/3 to 50% of your income before and after your check, and you put up with corporate/cubical crap, it really does make it seem work is for fools. That's the point.

As for you career, now you sound like on of those feminist harpies. But hey, if it works for you.

And like lion says, you don't get to raise your children, the state does unless you are way above means. My dad did stay married to my mom but there were times when she was really getting on his nerves and I could tell it wore on him. Not exactly a resounding example of marriage to me.

And again, you also content with the ever growing of what I call the 'Free Sh_t Army' since every dumbass is allowed a vote.
 

bucky

Ostrich
Where did I make the claim I'm unemployed? STFU already and get some facts. And yes, by work, I mean slaving away in an environment five days a week where the local, state, and federal government confiscate 1/3 to 50% of your income before and after your check, and you put up with corporate/cubical crap, it really does make it seem work is for fools. That's the point.

As for you career, now you sound like on of those feminist harpies. But hey, if it works for you.

And like lion says, you don't get to raise your children, the state does unless you are way above means. My dad did stay married to my mom but there were times when she was really getting on his nerves and I could tell it wore on him. Not exactly a resounding example of marriage to me.

And again, you also content with the ever growing of what I call the 'Free Sh_t Army' since every dumbass is allowed a vote.

Having a career is essential to being a father and husband and a provider for a family. It's the exact opposite of being a feminist and it is working for me. I have a small, comfortable house, two reliable cars, a good wife, and a few small children. It's a good life, comfortable if not luxurious. I wouldn't have these things without my work. Why go around saying "work is for fools" if you're working yourself? It makes no sense.
 
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Why would anyone want kids today? You don't actually raise your kids, society does. In 20 years there's a very good chance your sons will be homos and your daughters will be strippers/whores or feminist lesbians. Then you will feel like a failed organism.
If I could have found the right woman, sure, why not? But the reality is that most marriages end in divorce usually instigated by the woman. And the court gives her half your stuff, assuming you have anything to give. I don't believe divorce is always a great deal for the children.
 

Zagor

Robin
To play a devil's advocate, I'd say not working essentially means subverting this rotten system. I mean you labor and the state takes roughly half or more of your earning and spends it promoting all kinds of degeneracy. Using your money to make your life miserable. By being a good bee you basically sustain the same system we all hate.

I also work, I'm just saying, there's an argument to be made i think.
 

bucky

Ostrich
To play a devil's advocate, I'd say not working essentially means subverting this rotten system. I mean you labor and the state takes roughly half or more of your earning and spends it promoting all kinds of degeneracy. Using your money to make your life miserable. By being a good bee you basically sustain the same system we all hate.

I also work, I'm just saying, there's an argument to be made i think.

If you're a coward and convinced you can't do better than the average man, sure. Look at me, I'm no one special and I married a girl who was a virgin when I met her, I have a nice, comfortable life, and I'm anything but miserable. You guys who are convinced that dying alone is the way to go because life is hard and unfair sound miserable to me.

Seriously guys, have some faith in Christ. Don't live in fear. It's not what God wants for you. Ask yourselves who it is who wants men who would otherwise be good to be idle and die childless.

Psalm 128:

 
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