Normies and coronavirus

Roosh

Cardinal
There is an app called NextDoor which is something like a local Facebook. I use a fake name and check it out every couple of days. Lately there has been a rash of posts along the vein of "Stay home!" and "If you go out, you will get people sick!" I could find no dissenting voice, so I decided to chime in, not to change anyone's mind, but to let them know that someone in their neighborhood disagrees with them.

My first post was in response to a "Stay home" thread that was getting tons of upvotes. It stated that I was "selfish" and "foolish" because I wanted to venture outside. I said:
If you're scared of getting sick, stay home and leave other people alone. Our rights don't end because you're afraid of a virus.
It got the type of replies you'd expect, and then when I went to post again, there was a screen asking me if I wanted to edit my post since it looked like a post that has "been reported in the past." So one post in and I'm already getting reported. :laughter:

What have your experiences with normies been like? I see them as a lost cause, but unfortunately they are now the unpaid police enforcers that will try to keep people like us in line.
 
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I am a lockdown skeptic, and there are certainly a lot of others out there, but I think there's still a solid majority of the population who are in favor of the shutdowns, and want to go slow on opening things back up.

I think their primary motivation is fear. They are exposed to the legacy media. They see the statistics for new cases and for deaths, and they are not mathematically literate enough to recognize that this means their risk is very low, and is no worse than a typical flu season, even if the WuFlu is not technically a type of flu.

I think this fearful phenomena is the same that results in men being soyboys, men being unwilling to stand up to shit tests from women, Republicans being unwilling to stand up to Democrats, people being opposed to the US taking an aggressive foreign policy stance, and people wanting the government to provide them with some sort of cradle-to-grave safe space.

It's a cowardly age, and the WuFlu Panic scares them.
 

bucky

Pelican
In my area people seem to be tacitly realizing that the lockdowns were a huge overreaction, but they went so all in when all of this started that it's difficult to do a full 180 now.

My prediction is that when the full economic devastation that will result from this arrives, people will try to distance themselves from ever having been pro lockdown.
 

Smitty727

Newbie
Here in Florida things are starting to get back to normal. Im seeing less and less people wearing masks, but still probably around 70% or so of people wearing them. I think as things start to open up, and people get to talking about it and sharing their knowledge and experiences, they'll start to realize this is a bunch of crap. I was at the vitamin store the other day and the cashier started talking to me about Evil Bill and his plans. Ive even opened my Moms eyes on the whole situation, and shes as much of a boomer/normie as they come. Was just watching some Evil Bill videos on youtube, and overwhelmingly the like to dislike ratio was about 3:1 in favor of dislike. So people are starting to wake up. I truly dont see the elite winning in the end
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
I heard a friend's wife remark a few weeks ago about those "idiots in Richmond marching in protest" and how one of them had a confederate flag, etc. I didn't see the news story she was referring to, and while it could have been a real shot of some guy with a confederate flag, I'm quite certain it wasn't a klan rally. But the idea is to keep normies like her on the reservation - "you don't want to look like THEM, do you?!" etc. So for the busy mom who never watches news outside of the pediatrician waiting room, it's easy to see how easily they can be swayed by drive by journalism.

I don't think that wearing mask in public makes you an instant dupe, however. If that's the case there's been plenty of them in Asia for decades.
 
Here in Florida things are starting to get back to normal. Im seeing less and less people wearing masks, but still probably around 70% or so of people wearing them. I think as things start to open up, and people get to talking about it and sharing their knowledge and experiences, they'll start to realize this is a bunch of crap. I was at the vitamin store the other day and the cashier started talking to me about Evil Bill and his plans. Ive even opened my Moms eyes on the whole situation, and shes as much of a boomer/normie as they come. Was just watching some Evil Bill videos on youtube, and overwhelmingly the like to dislike ratio was about 3:1 in favor of dislike. So people are starting to wake up. I truly dont see the elite winning in the end
Never rest on our laurels, even for a moment, staying vigilant is a must, especially now. I talk to just about anyone about gates and his bs, and I haven't met one person yet who thinks he (or she, in light of recent news lol) is a force for any kind of good.
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
The more I look at that site Nextdoor, I'm amazed it's still in business. The company has yet to turn a profit, and most people can get what they want out of Facebook groups without signing up for yet another Silicon Valley data-grabbing app.

Throw in the early allegations of racial profiling (which really means their neighborhood data was getting a bit too accurate to be comfortable) and no wonder they only allow highly curated content and replies. It's been so irrelevant it's hard to imagine it doing a lot to affect the discussion over Coronavirus versus the better known narrative outlets.

That Roosh was able to create a phony account belies their supposed policy of only allowing real names. Even Facebook can't easily mandate that, though they are pretty good at detecting duplicate accounts.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
The more I look at that site Nextdoor, I'm amazed it's still in business. The company has yet to turn a profit, and most people can get what they want out of Facebook groups without signing up for yet another Silicon Valley data-grabbing app.

Throw in the early allegations of racial profiling (which really means their neighborhood data was getting a bit too accurate to be comfortable) and no wonder they only allow highly curated content and replies. It's been so irrelevant it's hard to imagine it doing a lot to affect the discussion over Coronavirus versus the better known narrative outlets.

That Roosh was able to create a phony account belies their supposed policy of only allowing real names. Even Facebook can't easily mandate that, though they are pretty good at detecting duplicate accounts.
A lot of apps and even media outlets are allowed to operate at a loss, with no hope of ever turning a profit, because they serve a purpose in destroying a traditional business or to serve a specific agenda. Netflix comes to mind. As long as it stays useful, it will never go out of business.

As for Nextdoor, it always has posts from "community outreach" police officers. It's quite useful to get the slaves to follow orders on a local level.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
I'm at a point now where I go off when someone makes a mainstream statement about corona. "We need more testing" is a particularly dumb thing to say because the more you test, the more cases you will find, just because these ridiculous tests yield so many false positives. We've all seen in Tanzania they sent in samples of goats, fruit and motor oil and got positive results back.

In Germany alt media uncovered a scandal where they increased testing the same day they eased some restrictions, so that they could then immediately report a spike in cases and justify locking down more.

Corona is one big global IQ test.
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member
Id start posting daily updates for your neighborhood.

Something like

"86 days and no one in our neighborhood has gotten Wuhan Flu. Feel silly yet? Its safe to leave the house. I did. "
"87 days and no one in our neighborhood has gotten Wuhan Flu. Feel silly yet? Its safe to leave the house. I did. Feel silly yet? "
"88 days and no one in our neighborhood has gotten Wuhan Flu. Feel silly yet? Its safe to leave the house. I did. Feel silly yet?"
"89 days and no one in our neighborhood has gotten Wuhan Flu. Feel silly yet?Its safe to leave the house. I did. Feel silly yet?"

Etc
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
I'm at a point now where I go off when someone makes a mainstream statement about corona. "We need more testing" is a particularly dumb thing to say because the more you test, the more cases you will find, just because these ridiculous tests yield so many false positives. We've all seen in Tanzania they sent in samples of goats, fruit and motor oil and got positive results back.
That probably speaks more to the quality (or flat out fakery) of the test kits and labs, but yes I agree testing itself is almost pointless. Ok, so you test negative. Great, you don't have it. Then you leave the clinic and go to the grocery store only to get infected from touching the shopping cart trolley handle.

What matters isn't how easy it is to get infected or getting infected per se, it's what happens to you once you are infected. It's that logic that the normies are being led away from without even realizing the fallacy of the "news."
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
That probably speaks more to the quality (or flat out fakery) of the test kits and labs, but yes I agree testing itself is almost pointless. Ok, so you test negative. Great, you don't have it.
Still wrong. Cause there are tons of false negatives too.
What matters isn't how easy it is to get infected or getting infected per se, it's what happens to you once you are infected. It's that logic that the normies are being led away from without even realizing the fallacy of the "news."
What matters is that the fatality of this thing is in the range of the flu and we need to stop talking about this virus and start talking about the economy and civil liberties.

Talking about the virus is a red herring. No matter whether we talk about tests, infection rates, quarantines, fatality rates, contagion, masks, or anything else. THE VIRUS IS A DISTRACTION!

The real issue is 1. economy and 2. constitutional rights
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
Sloppy conclusion - Tanzania had shit tests; the first world generally does not.

There are false negatives (or positives) in everything from cancer testing to drug urinalysis, that doesn't categorically dismiss the entire concept of testing as a red herring. To solve a problem, you need evidence. Here, though, it happens that no matter how much testing, it's pointless if getting re-infected is as easy as catching a cold.

Therefore it's what happens to you once you get it which matters. The "range of the flu" is quite a bit different if you're in the kill zone - old, out of shape and with health problems. Boomers fit this category, and guess who votes a lot? There's your tie in.

The whole world isn't pulling the world over your eyes and Tanzania most definitely isn't coordinating with Nancy Pelosi. The virus exists. But Pelosi and the Democrats are definitely weaponizing it well beyond what it really is.
 

Papaya

Crow
Gold Member
1315 people died today....due to tobacco. Thats the daily average in the US day after day, year after year according to CDC. 480,000 from tobacco alone.

Roughly 2.2 million die from combined causes. Now that per 100k population number can fluctuate as much as 10% on a year over year basis.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_st...h_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/index.htm

If saving lives were the real issue then why dont we shut down the economy and force ably effect behavioral changes on our society that will reduce the number of totally preventable deaths? Smoking is just one.
 

Enhanced Eddie

Pelican
Gold Member
Sloppy conclusion - Tanzania had shit tests; the first world generally does not.
This is just false. Do you think they make their own tests in these shit hole countries? They get them from the same institutions as everybody else.

And the tests have proven to be just as faulty with a 20-30% accuracy rate in first world countries too.

The "range of the flu" is quite a bit different if you're in the kill zone - old, out of shape and with health problems.
Yeah same as the flu. The flu is just as dangerous to those same demographics.

We don't commit economic suicide for the flu
We don't surrender all civil liberties for the flu

The whole world isn't pulling the world over your eyes
No, but the WHO is, and Bill Gates is. Politicians world wide listen to only a few advisors. Those are all paid off. It's easy to prove, and you can find all the proof if you do just a little research (or watch Amazing Polly, she's exposed it all).
 

bucky

Pelican
That probably speaks more to the quality (or flat out fakery) of the test kits and labs, but yes I agree testing itself is almost pointless. Ok, so you test negative. Great, you don't have it. Then you leave the clinic and go to the grocery store only to get infected from touching the shopping cart trolley handle.

What matters isn't how easy it is to get infected or getting infected per se, it's what happens to you once you are infected. It's that logic that the normies are being led away from without even realizing the fallacy of the "news."
You'd get "the father-in-law of a sixty-year old guy I work with died from it!" from the diehards. I think regular everyday normies are starting to see that it's overblown though.
 

kel

Kingfisher
I just avoid the conversation now, unfortunately. Partly because I'm frankly sick of this being all anyone talks about, but also just because it doesn't seem to go anywhere, and it just makes people angry and probably puts me in danger. It's sad, but that's the situation, so I mostly avoid it, or try to be just a little edgy and gauge their response, back off, do it again the next day.
 
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