Normies and coronavirus
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I know a few people who told me that they took the first 2 shots but they wouldn't take any more. If the worst comes to pass in the months ahead, let's see how firm their resolve is. I'm not setting my expectations very high.
Well, the creation of panic cannot be compared to the imposition of rules and laws. I think there has to be force, including panalazition if you don't obey.
If it is just a new panic, people might get tired of it, but if you get fined for not wearing a mask, then compliance will be the norm (again).
If it is just a new panic, people might get tired of it, but if you get fined for not wearing a mask, then compliance will be the norm (again).
I’ve know 4 people in the last 2 weeks who have caught it (all over 60years old), before this I think only like 1-2 people I know over last 6 months or so. Definitely a spike going on right now and not being reported much just yet. We’ll see if Alex Jones is right again (his conspiracy accuracy is well over 50%, that’s pretty impressive).
Great now my father who is democrat and 71 is going to complain to me his son( who is 47)all fall and winter to get jabbed. I thought i was done with this, caused a lot of fights and friction last time. I will be pressured all fall winter I’m sure. One can hope I don’t. But some people do not want to hear it. I don’t say anything, to try to keep the peace, but he just keeps going and going, so eventually I crack and then the insults begin.( hard to talk to someone when MSNBC AND CNN is your god)I know he doesn’t know what he’s doing, playing with getting myocarditis or whatever the heck else you can get. I will never get it. And that’s a whole other thing this plandemic is doing is causing family’s to be destroyed.
(Sorry felt like I needed to rant lol)
(Sorry felt like I needed to rant lol)
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”Caught” what exactly?
Panic does not work long term. The rules and laws do... if you convince the populace that by following the rules you are a good person. Stay Home! Save lives! Hero works here! Made people feel like heroes for following orders by eating cheetos on the couch, these people never are heroes. I believe our fellow citizens will be activated to turn on us. We again will be the one who says, "No vaxx, I decided against it" and it was pretty f'd up. There is a reason why all the leftists, blm, gays, white wall women, are so damn Totalitarian. They want to government to make it illegal to point out shortcomings. They rejected God, the true Patriarch. They don't know their fathers either, all households the father is the patriarch. They are missing the powerful leader and want the Government to decree that no changes are needed.
Whatever you want to call it…Much worse than a cold, not quite as bad as influenza, that bug.
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They're baby boomers....self awareness is impossible with them.
If it’s “not quite as bad as influenza,” and also “much worse than a cold,“ then in fact it IS what was always known in prior times to this lunatic regime as either a cold or influenza.
We were repeatedly told, over and over, that Covid was much worse and deadlier than the flu. If what they had was not even as bad as the flu, then it’s NOT the so-called deadly disease Covid. It was proven scientifically from almost the start of this media-generated hysteria that there is no reliable way of testing for Covid — these tests simply do not work as promised — a positive Covid diagnosis literally means nothing at all.
Nor can you say that its because they got the vax and boosters that the symptoms were relatively mild, since we were repeatedly promised that the vax would PREVENT transmission, PREVENT Covid from manifesting altogether. Yet that’s not what happened at all: the vaxxed kept getting sick at least as often as, and really more often than, the non-vaxxed.
These people had a cold or the flu, period. Nothing more.
I have a favorite way to stop covid describers in their tracks, and usually burst their covid bubble a bit.
When they start describing it how bad it was, even though they got vaxed ("imagine how bad it would have been if I wasnt vaccinated!") I just remind them:
The CDC says that half the people that get covid don't even get symptoms. So I guess it's a spectrum between cant even tell that you have it, and death. Weird.
When they start describing it how bad it was, even though they got vaxed ("imagine how bad it would have been if I wasnt vaccinated!") I just remind them:
The CDC says that half the people that get covid don't even get symptoms. So I guess it's a spectrum between cant even tell that you have it, and death. Weird.
I stopped here friend because I know exuberantly what you're gonna say. It's a difficult situation. I try to assess the ''normie'' where they stand. If they're a convinced democrat for example, they're already in such a steep level of delusion that having a discussion etc barely has any fruits. I always drop a few casual, matter of fact things like ''you know, the powerful in the world always want more power right'', presented in a statement that's very easy to digest and has logical connotations. Then I gauge how people respond. If people give you pushback on statements like this, they are as Morpheus said ''so inert, so dependent on the system, that they'll fight you when you try to get them out of it''. If they go along with this you can feed them a bit more and maybe even have a legit convo. The sad reality of the state of affairs we live in is that suffering is the ONLY option for these people; life literally has to smack the lies out of them. With male/female dynamics this may be through an excruciating divorce, with the beerbug this may be having health consequences due to the jungle juice, with finances this may be having your pension being rekt in real time, the list is endless as the lies in the heads of the average normie is literally endless.
Personally I was very fortunate that I could discuss almost anything with my mother during corona, and although she would've liked it if I'd taken the jab she was very much accepting of it and went against friends who were completely slaveminded about the topic. She didn't want to take it but kinda had to because we had the QR for about 6 months to basically go anywhere, but those who reluctantly took it were in my perspective the vast minority of the takers, the vast majority rushed towards it but that's been discussed before obviously.
We can't change people, we can only change ourselves and let our actions, lifestyle, peace of mind and so on be absorbing to people who are open for it and get curious about it. At least, I found that people I more or less let come to me because I was kinda ''mysterious'' about not taking the juice and not going along with the measures so much were way more interested and impressionable for discussion, although they argued too sometimes. People I went straight head to head with, nah, 0 result, purely bad vibes (B-B-B-B-UT THE SCIENCE SAYS!!!!!!).
When not having symptoms can be a symptom we are truly in Alice in wonderland world. Though by this logic, if to stay at home, wear a mask and get a jab makes you a hero or saves lives then to do the opposite makes you the villain and a killer for some of the lost minded. Hundreds of years ago, the villains in societies would be publicly humiliated, put in stocks or executed in front of jeering crowds as a sort of entertainment. The tendency is maybe not so far removed. Normal people can be turned back into jeering baiting crowds again if they feel the punished deserves it. Perhaps in the past it was Christian conscience that held these demonic tendencies in check. But now I think Netflix, a full stomach and warm houses sedates these tendencies.
I strongly believe that they pushed the moneystreams towards the West so heavily post-war cause they needed the sedation you describe to sell the lies. In any situation where there's legit survival on the line people revert to their traditional gender roles, as that ensures survival best. Making people drown in wealth and materialism is an essential, imperative element of socio-culturally imploding a society or civilization as we've seen over the last 60 years in the West. Without it, people will remain to have strong ties and live in reality. As I've heard in the current context, there's no ''blue pill'' in the ghetto. People are just about it, they understand certain realities about the world from an early age on. It's the people living in cosy suburbs that will go down first when electricity breaks down, running water stops and a survival situation ensues.
Personally I've stopped to look at any ''logic'' they present in the MSM, for it literally hurts my brain. It's a smart trick actually, scramble the mind of the masses through purporting illogical, non consistent, contradictory stories en masse. I'd go as far to state that you can probably put that in the category of psychological torture to a degree: you literally try to make the people you're transmitting the information to go insane. When ''not having symptoms is a symptom'', among 1000s of other examples, isn't that literally making people insane? Not only confused in general, but also questioning themselves on basic calculations, logic and cause/consequence?
It reminds me of the scene in 1984 where Winston is being tortured just as long until he not only states that 2+2=5, but actually believes it. I think that's the perfect analogy for what we see now being induced in real time: it's not enough to say (insert your lie here), but you have to believe it for them to be satisfied. It's pretty deep and dark psychology, but that's eventually all that it is really: they know exactly how human psychology works and how the brain relates to information, and they use it to get into our heads, which is very interesting to reflect on given that in the past those in power had to come to your town and besiege it to get to you, now they can sit in their skycraper in New Jew with their dark triad personality traits, studying their psychological papers that come in through their controlled universities and education system, copy and paste, cut here and there, edit it a bit for maximum effect and send out the message to their media outlets both online and offline, for then it to be broadcast through every single telecommunication gadget available to end up at you, Joe Schmoe sitting in your farm in Utah or Des Moines, never having had any direct interaction with the people he's getting the information from, the people he doesn't even know that exist.
The wealth is quite an anomaly. I feel we take it for granted but speaking to people in their 80s it is only a generation or two ago that people lived in relative poverty, outdoor toilets, no holidays abroad ever, radio, rationing, and would have worked from their teenage years.
If you have a comfortable life and have done well in the system you are less likely to want to go against it - bite the master’s hand. Most people with comfortable middle class lives aren’t going to risk losing their livelihood by questioning the system. Doctors are high up in this hierarchy and get paid more than the average, nurses can be seduced with status and pride - “angels” why would they dare to question it. But I think this also applies to priests.
I suppose this is why it didn’t / couldn’t really take off in Africa. I don’t suppose people ever question why everyone in Africa isn’t dead from Covid?
I am considering that Satans trick on the west has been to give wealth. Comfortable people are more prone to be atheistic. Trust in the science and materialism that made us wealthy, why then believe in “superstitions”? Yet as horrible as it is, suffering can lead to a belief in God. I am reading a book about a Japanese catholic called Nagai who lost everything in the Nagasaki atom bomb, his wife, his home, his health, eventually his life and yet it strengthened his belief in God, not weaken it.
Materialism weakens us spiritually but also physically. During the toilet paper rush, I heard a story of an elderly single lady who purchased a second freezer, one so large she could fill it with frozen foods and horde food.
Perhaps it was sensible, lots of people stocked up on foods or guns, but I recall Roosh writing or saying something about not wanting to horde things and would rather put his faith in God. Apology if I was incorrect in this recollection. I also horded on some tinned foods until I realised I was giving in to fear, and it was kind of pointless.
Huxley’s vision was control by sedation and comfort. Money, entertainment, food is the modern day soma.
I agree there was so much psychological manipulation going on. So much I had to question if I was wrong early on. Thankfully there were a few others who’s eyes were opened. I didn’t realise they were running with an Orwellian playbook 2+2=5. It makes sense out of a nonsensical situation. I recall the expression ‘gaslighting’ a lot. I suppose that is the same thing.
Praise to God.
If you have a comfortable life and have done well in the system you are less likely to want to go against it - bite the master’s hand. Most people with comfortable middle class lives aren’t going to risk losing their livelihood by questioning the system. Doctors are high up in this hierarchy and get paid more than the average, nurses can be seduced with status and pride - “angels” why would they dare to question it. But I think this also applies to priests.
I suppose this is why it didn’t / couldn’t really take off in Africa. I don’t suppose people ever question why everyone in Africa isn’t dead from Covid?
I am considering that Satans trick on the west has been to give wealth. Comfortable people are more prone to be atheistic. Trust in the science and materialism that made us wealthy, why then believe in “superstitions”? Yet as horrible as it is, suffering can lead to a belief in God. I am reading a book about a Japanese catholic called Nagai who lost everything in the Nagasaki atom bomb, his wife, his home, his health, eventually his life and yet it strengthened his belief in God, not weaken it.
Materialism weakens us spiritually but also physically. During the toilet paper rush, I heard a story of an elderly single lady who purchased a second freezer, one so large she could fill it with frozen foods and horde food.
Perhaps it was sensible, lots of people stocked up on foods or guns, but I recall Roosh writing or saying something about not wanting to horde things and would rather put his faith in God. Apology if I was incorrect in this recollection. I also horded on some tinned foods until I realised I was giving in to fear, and it was kind of pointless.
Huxley’s vision was control by sedation and comfort. Money, entertainment, food is the modern day soma.
I agree there was so much psychological manipulation going on. So much I had to question if I was wrong early on. Thankfully there were a few others who’s eyes were opened. I didn’t realise they were running with an Orwellian playbook 2+2=5. It makes sense out of a nonsensical situation. I recall the expression ‘gaslighting’ a lot. I suppose that is the same thing.
Praise to God.
I've noticed the people I know who were cultists about COVID/jabs/masks are just as, if not more unhealthy than when it all hit.
I will be much more combative if this thing starts again. And I will point out the obvious to folks it applies to, that it is the height of insanity and narcissism to let your health go and not eat right or exercise, then turn around and attempt to police what I do to make up for your inaction.
If you're actually concerned about your health and protecting yourself, you'd have put some effort into improving your daily lifestyle. And yes, while usually I wouldn't, I'll be saying this directly to friends/family. The line in the sand will be drawn. If you fall for this again then I have no words.
But you don't get to sit there and shovel pizza/chips down your gullet everyday and balloon up to 250 lbs, then tell me to mask/jab because you're suddenly concerned about a cold. How about that heart attack you are begging for?
I will be much more combative if this thing starts again. And I will point out the obvious to folks it applies to, that it is the height of insanity and narcissism to let your health go and not eat right or exercise, then turn around and attempt to police what I do to make up for your inaction.
If you're actually concerned about your health and protecting yourself, you'd have put some effort into improving your daily lifestyle. And yes, while usually I wouldn't, I'll be saying this directly to friends/family. The line in the sand will be drawn. If you fall for this again then I have no words.
But you don't get to sit there and shovel pizza/chips down your gullet everyday and balloon up to 250 lbs, then tell me to mask/jab because you're suddenly concerned about a cold. How about that heart attack you are begging for?
Good summary. Just to be precise though, I'd just say that it tends to. There are a lot of things that I am materialistic about, but I do see the foolishness and vanity in that kind of life, through my own lack of fulfillment with certain things (having attained some things in the west), but also through others who are more numb, clueless and chase things without even a thought about the rat race.
One thing that is true, and will be very hard for people to deal with, is how much of the material "wealth" is not itself fake, but that it was bought at a price. That price was the future, as it is mostly tricks with "money" and debt. The evil one is going to laugh about this one too, as he pulls the rug and the lamentations begin due to being so used to the plentiful food, health care, and safety for so long.
Got as far as 30 seconds then tapped out. “A man’s gots to know his limitations”.