Normies and coronavirus

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
It's worth noting that wealth is not much good to the elites if they can't use it to buy the things that give them control.

It is not enough to simply become filthy rich via insider trading and fed money. Destroying main street and forcing everyone to liquidate their market presence at fire sale prices is arguably the most important part of the plan. Now when the corporate oligarchy moves in they can hoover up that market presence and it will simply appear to be capitalism in its natural form.
 

PainPositive

Woodpecker
Gold Member
I am a lockdown skeptic, and there are certainly a lot of others out there, but I think there's still a solid majority of the population who are in favor of the shutdowns, and want to go slow on opening things back up.

I think their primary motivation is fear. They are exposed to the legacy media. They see the statistics for new cases and for deaths, and they are not mathematically literate enough to recognize that this means their risk is very low, and is no worse than a typical flu season, even if the WuFlu is not technically a type of flu.

I think this fearful phenomena is the same that results in men being soyboys, men being unwilling to stand up to shit tests from women, Republicans being unwilling to stand up to Democrats, people being opposed to the US taking an aggressive foreign policy stance, and people wanting the government to provide them with some sort of cradle-to-grave safe space.

It's a cowardly age, and the WuFlu Panic scares them.
One good thing about this virus is you'll get to see which of your neighbors are most likely to rat you out.
 

Sam Malone

Ostrich
Gold Member
I totally agree, especially when it comes to social media.

I have an overweight friend from high school I've stayed friends with on Facebook. He had a heart attack a few years ago and is in the worst shape of almost anyone I could imagine.

A few days ago, he posted this ridiculously "scolding" message complaining that...people were going to the beach. I wanted to reply and say that the outdoors is healthy and safe and getting some Vitamin D from the sun helps ward off such viruses.

But I decided not to even post anything because it would have meant inserting myself in his drama -- which included a lot annoying posts by ill-informed fat old people. It's not worth the trouble. I'm there to observe. Let the ignorant stay ignorant. Let he and his pudgy girlfriend stay home and gorge themselves on scones. I don't care.
I have a couple of relatives on Facebook that are the same way. They've always claimed to be "big boned" until the one's sibling dropped a ton of weight (oddly enough, "she's just a bitch now after getting thin".. imagine that). Heaven forbid they consider not finishing a box of Little Debbies. One was offered the surgery awhile back (gastric bypass ?) but didn't do it because then she'd have to buy all new clothes and that would be a lot of money to replace an entire wardrobe.

I shit you not. The logic behind her passing on a surgery that her PCP deemed necessary because she was morbidly obese (which she explains that the surgery would have been covered 100% by insurance based on that declaration) was that she would have to then spend money on new clothes.

* I don't know one way or the other if the surgery would have been completely covered, the point is that her reason wasn't due to medical or hospital costs.

I've found that these people are so entrenched in their "Orange Man Bad" beliefs that one would have better success hitting their head against a concrete wall. I'd much rather put my knowledge and resources toward the ones that already question the narrative. Even if it's just a little bit.

One friend of mine has 'seen the light' in regards to the lockdowns. His wife owns a hair salon, and she notes that our New York state governor should be sporting an afro by now, but isn't. So someone somewhere is cutting it.

Reminds me of a line from a Kevin Costner movie where he's a Coast Guard rescue diver ("The Guardian") and talking to one of the recruits.

"Save the ones you can, the rest, you've got to let go."
 

Roosh

Cardinal
I am not a conspiracy theorist in that I don't believe there is some sort of centrally coordinated power controlling the world, but rather see multiple powerful factions each pursuing their own interests at the expense of all the others', and the smallest common demoninator (wow, I meant 'denominator', and it came out like this, but I'm just gonna leave this, it somehow fits) of those groups' interests is usually the result of the bigger developments that we see eventually in the news, which normies would take as bare facts.

So the above makes sense to me as in: After 2008, financial institutions had a double bonanza with low interest rates, quantitative easing, and depressed asset prices. Like Christmas, Birthday and Chinese new year (thats when Chinese kids get the money envelopes) all in one single day. Then came the 10-year bull run, which produced financial gains of generational proportions for those groups who were in on this game from the very beginning.

At the end of this bull run, which is around now, a lot of them might think: 'This was quite good, any way we can replicate this?'

Which leads us to the present moment.

The above is just a theory, and I am not saying this is certain, as I don't believe in some some of coordinated power that pulls the strings. The powerful groups compete against each other as well, but if history is an indicator, it is possible to believe that a replay of the conditions of 2008 are in the interests of the groups in power, and that a similar development might happen.
This is by definition the normie view of power and control.
 
Hilarious she's freaking out so much but if she just calmed down and focuses on relaxed driving she'll probably have significantly better health outcomes :squintlol:
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Normie has a profanity-laced breakdown:


Note how she didn't mention a husband or kids.
I think two things happened: (1) she went on a sales call and didn't make a sale, leading to anxiety of money, and (2) she was around someone who coughed, leading to fear of death. Both of these combined to create a mental breakdown, a way of alleviating her fears, that normally would lead to some kind of treatment, but in today's age leads to at least a partial celebration of how strong and smart she is.
 

REL

Pigeon
I've found tact and preparation to be key when dealing with normies. Be prepared to cite the studies that show the true death rate is less than or equal to that of the flu and speak articulately to how the CDC is manipulating the death rate. Anecdotally, that strategy has been effective in planting the seed with some normies who I've encountered. From there, be ready to further elaborate on the specifics of all that we know regarding this plandemic- who, where, when, what, why, how, etc. We must all do our part in spreading awareness and waking up the general populace. Not all will be open to listening, but some will. Maintain frame.
 

Sisyphus

Robin
As I walked around my neighborhood a few nights ago and observed masked dog walkers practically leaping aside to avoid me, I began to feel something approaching compassion for them.

I tried to imagine what it must be like to have their mindset. If I estimate someone is 7 feet away from me then I feel completely safe without a care in the world, but as soon as I determine that the same person is 5.99 feet away from me then I am plunged into a desperate panic and fear for my life. Someone who is manipulated so easily by their programmers truly has no control over their emotions. They are entirely subject to the whims of their controllers and can have no coherent or consistent inner emotional foundation. Performing even the most basic of functions must be a daunting challenge.

But then I considered the evidence that at some fundamental level, even these people are rejecting the programming. If I truly believed that a killer virus was loose among us and that I would surely die or become a murderer if I was less than 6 feet from an unmasked individual then I would take pains to ensure that I was never 7 feet from anyone, nor 10, or even 20. If I truly believed that it was a matter of life and death, and I had to sacrifice a year and a half of my life and imprison myself in order to ensure I and everyone else could enjoy a long and healthy life afterwards, then I would do it albeit grudgingly. I would shutter myself indoors and never go outside for any reason – all food and vital supplies would be delivered and I would demand all items be left at the door. I would only open the door when properly equipped with hazmat gear and a gasmask. I certainly wouldn’t go to Lowe’s on the weekend, hoping that some pieces of tape on the ground would be the only safeguards that could prolong my earthly existence. If my life were on the line, my petty home repairs could wait until it was safe to freely breathe air once more. The regulations are so arbitrary and inconsistent that it’s difficult to understand how anyone could possibly accept them without doubt or skepticism.

It would be easier to feel pity or empathy for these people if I could convince myself that their mindless behavior wasn’t setting a dangerous precedent which threatened my way of life, or that they weren’t pawns for some nefarious agenda they can’t begin to comprehend. Ultimately, I failed to find compassion within myself, and instead felt disgust and disappointment that I’m required to share a planet with so many people of this type.

I realized that the specific fear that the manipulators are so easily capable of exploiting is the fear of death and that so much of the evil wrought upon the world stems from this basic fear. It’s clear to me that people need to come to terms with their mortality and that we can never rise out of an oppressed state until we conquer this most basic fear of an unavoidable eventuality.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
As I walked around my neighborhood a few nights ago and observed masked dog walkers practically leaping aside to avoid me, I began to feel something approaching compassion for them.
I was at a park on Saturday. I saw more masked wearers than before. For the first time I felt pity for them. I don't think they enjoy wearing the mask, but their fear is too great. It's just unfortunate that their fear will be transformed into hatred for us, to snitch on us.
 

Easy_C

Crow
The last sentence was one I found impactful.

Reason why is because I’m now acutely aware of the difference between my own experiences and those who have never seen actual danger. In my case I kneeled moments before the person next to me was literally blown to pieces.

As you might imagine after that a bit changed. I realized that sometimes you just die by chance so it’s important to actually LIVE while you’re still alive and began taking some significantly greater personal risks and challenges that diverged my life from the “path of soy”.

So yes. I’m absolutely willing to risk a 0.08% chance of dying earlier to actually have a life worth living. In fact given a hypothetical difference between life permanently vegetating in a studio apartment with Netflix, video, games, and porn or an actual life with events, family, and meaningful work I want to say I’d take a chance of death as high as 70-80%.


Because that’s not life. That’s just slowly rotting away. People who never have been confronted with their own mortality don’t value life the same way and don’t know the difference.
 

Aboulia

Sparrow
I realized that the specific fear that the manipulators are so easily capable of exploiting is the fear of death and that so much of the evil wrought upon the world stems from this basic fear. It’s clear to me that people need to come to terms with their mortality and that we can never rise out of an oppressed state until we conquer this most basic fear of an unavoidable eventuality.
Christ is risen from the dead, having trampled down death by death, and on those in the graves hath he bestowed life.
 

Wreckingball

Pelican
As I mentioned in the criticisms thread, I live by the river in a highly touristic area.
Over the last 3 weeks I have been feeling a tremendous increase in car traffic (and lack of parking spots) as well as a gigantic increase of people walking/running by the river as well as enjoying the green areas. Very few masked people.
People are starting to not give a shit.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I was at a park on Saturday. I saw more masked wearers than before. For the first time I felt pity for them. I don't think they enjoy wearing the mask, but their fear is too great. It's just unfortunate that their fear will be transformed into hatred for us, to snitch on us.
"God bless you and keep you from fear" as they pass by.

It will make you feel better, and it can't hurt them either.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
As I walked around my neighborhood a few nights ago and observed masked dog walkers practically leaping aside to avoid me, I began to feel something approaching compassion for them.
The same guy probably kisses his dog on the lips. I actually don't mind walking on the sidewalk and having everyone else jump onto the street so I have plenty of space. I could get use to this.
 

Easy_C

Crow
Here in the SE auto traffic has jumped exponentially over the past week. Went to a local restaurant and staff were all wearing masks (which I actually think makes sense for cooking staff because it stops them both inhaling oil and sneezing on my food). They were adhering to limited capacity and every open table was occupied.
 
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