Normies and the Russian-Ukraine war

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Morally virtuous people in the UK.
I could understand it, if those who paint their house in Ukraine flag colors or hang Ukraine flag on their house, would be willing to accept refugees from Ukraine into their house. So if one wants to tell refugees from Ukraine where they can find shelter, just paint your house with Ukraine flag colors. I would say that such people are doing the work of God. I would say that such people who accept refugees from Ukraine into their homes are indeed morally virtuous.

If these home owners would not accept Ukraine refugees, if they just paint their house like that to be popular, then as Jesus Christ said, get away from me hypocrites I don't want anything to do with you.
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Monkey see, monkey do. Life for most people today is just constant imitation.

I think 2023 will be grooming.

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doodydota

Sparrow
Catholic
So the other day, my mom sent me an interview with Alexander Dugin.
Mind you, we live in Poland, where questioning the uki-narrative is akin to disrespecting Kim Jong Un in North Korea. It will get you in social gulag. I can totally imagine outright shooting of suspected Putin collaborators in the near future.
The next day, my mom told me in secret, it might sound like heresy, but she does not feel Putin is the bad guy here. She does not dare to share this thought with anyone else, not even my dad.
I have to admit, I can't get that smile off my face ;)
 

Argus101

Robin
Protestant
The magazine should change its name from Playboy to Warboy. This war could have been avoided had the Ukrainian government kicked out the
U.S. and NATO military advisors and stayed neutral like Switzerland. But the U.S. military-industrial complex didn't want that. The more the
destruction not just in Ukraine but worldwide, the higher the profits of the military contractors!
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
There's a house on the same estate as me with multiple flags wrapped around their tree in their front garden, and lots of mini flags poking out of it. And there's another house with a full mast on their house with a Ukraine flag. It is absolutely insane.
I never realized there were so many "Ukranians" in my area till I saw all the flags pop out in front of the mask-wearers houses.
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
So the other day, my mom sent me an interview with Alexander Dugin.
Mind you, we live in Poland, where questioning the uki-narrative is akin to disrespecting Kim Jong Un in North Korea. It will get you in social gulag. I can totally imagine outright shooting of suspected Putin collaborators in the near future.
The next day, my mom told me in secret, it might sound like heresy, but she does not feel Putin is the bad guy here. She does not dare to share this thought with anyone else, not even my dad.
I have to admit, I can't get that smile off my face ;)
That is refreshing - Poles in particular have such a deep seated hatred of all things Russia it's unusual for them to stop and consider that they may be being played by the (((oligarchs))) once again. Good for her!
 
Waking up to the news saying that all cities in your home country had been under bomb attacks, felt like a nightmare.
It sounded too cruel even for a plot of a horror movie. But Russia and Belarus attacking Ukraine is the reality which in going on in Europe in the 21st century.

I was born in Donetsk region, raised in Kharkiv, studied in Sumy.
Ukraine is my motherland, and its eastern part is my home.

In 2014, when we chose our own path, away from communist dictatorship and forward to liberal values and freedom, Russia failed to set us free from its "brother's" choking hug.
First there was the Crimea, which got quickly occupied by soldiers with no country markings and miraculously handed to Russia. Later all eastern cities were hit by the wave of manifestations by allegedly Ukrainian people who felt oppressed because of speaking the Russian language.
We can perfectly speak both. Well enough to confirm it's not the case, and to tell Russians to get out of our land.
When that legend failed, they occupied two big regions that became self-proclaimed republics. A bunch of prisoners and strong alcohol addicts with Russian passports became local presidents and ministers. They could play with serious Russian weapon for fun and give their illiterate speeches on behalf of people from eastern Ukraine, which was shown on the Russian TV as the only true source.

We've been in a war for 8 years, living in a constant feeling of fear and instability.
But what happened on 24.02.2022, made that day very dark for the whole world.

Friends, I am very grateful for all your kind messages. We have to be united. Putin is threatening anyone who'd help Ukraine fight for its sovereignty. The truth is that there's no guarantee it won't happen to any other country, including those in NATO.
Please help in any way you can: whether it is boycotting Russian products, showing your support on manifestations/social media, donating to Ukrainian charity organisations, helping refugees with information, and especially being careful about news sources you choose.

To our Russian neighbours:

Silence means consent. I know it's trendy among your celebrities and influencers to pretend as if nothing is going on, or even praise your tsar for "peace bringing operations" abroad.
But you can (and must!) stop him.
Don't believe the propaganda about Ukraine being taken over by nationalists and should be freed. We're already free. And we want peace, not your bombs. Keep your men in your country, and don't send them to die in Ukraine anonymously.

You're responsible for all the nightmares we had to go through, for kids that have never lived in a peaceful and safe country, for all the heroes we lost in this war.
It will never be forgotten.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
So the other day, my mom sent me an interview with Alexander Dugin.
Mind you, we live in Poland, where questioning the uki-narrative is akin to disrespecting Kim Jong Un in North Korea. It will get you in social gulag. I can totally imagine outright shooting of suspected Putin collaborators in the near future.
The next day, my mom told me in secret, it might sound like heresy, but she does not feel Putin is the bad guy here. She does not dare to share this thought with anyone else, not even my dad.
I have to admit, I can't get that smile off my face ;)
And your mom is a full blooded Pole?
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I never realized there were so many "Ukranians" in my area till I saw all the flags pop out in front of the mask-wearers houses.
Same here, I keep seeing ukranian flags everywhere, especially on the vehicles.

Hard to judge, but I would say most of this pro-ukranian virtue signaling is driven by hatred of Russia, not genuine care for the well being of ukranians.
 

Pointy Elbows

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Can anyone here fill in some blanks for me on this? "Putin wants the return of the Soviet Union" is a common rally cry I hear from my normie-right friends in favor of backing Ukraine so much.

Russian soldiers carrying the hammer and sickle red flag, plus Donbass babushkas confronting Ukrainian solders with it may seem understandable in light of the "great Patriotic War" idea. But it is unpersuasive to normie-right people I know. They just see - Russia bad, Putin wants USSR!

How dominant is the "return of the USSR" idea amongst Russians?
 
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