Same like Belgium. 2 countries in 1, French and Dutch. It's absolutely useless to have a country like that in my opinion. There's literally nothing that binds it together, besides mere legal and juridical appearances.
Normies and the Russian-Ukraine war
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Are these "We support Ukraine" murder tents?
The Catalyst
Ostrich
Original was in Russian and didn't have paragraph breaks, so I edited random paragraph breaks.
Of course, those same people literally refuse to believe that until December 31st 2021, Ukraine was routinely presented as by far the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe (even worse than Moldova and Belarus), a violent hellhole controlled by neonazi gangs ran by a combination CIA and a totalitarian government.My mother keeps saying Ukraine is beautiful and the people are so amazing there and she loves Zelensky. However, she only knows what she hears from CNN and NBC news and ignores anything negative I sent about Ukraine.
1) Beautiful: Some buildings and scenery are nice there, but compared to many other European nations (to include Russia), it seems nowhere near the top of the pack. Russian architecture likely outdoes Ukraine if one wants to compare similar styles. France, Germany, Austria, Croatia, and Slovenia likely top Ukraine when considering beautiful landscapes and cities and towns. I have read many lists of best European nations to visit and Ukraine was never on them (it might appear on a few now).
The 15 most beautiful countries in Europe | VortexMag
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2) People: Every nation has good and bad people. However, it ranks highly on corruption indexes which reflects very badly on the people. One must add the high divorce rate shows that mistrust is very high there, even among locals. Ukraine might be safer than some nations, but compared to many European nations, it is high (although much better than Russia).
Crime Index by Country 2023
www.numbeo.com
3) My mother thinks Ukraine is a democracy and praises Zelensky which is a laugh. If Trump did these same things, 90% of the slava Ukraini crowd would have called for his head:
Ukraine's Prez Zelensky Uses Martial Law to Ban Main Opposition Party
President Volodymyr Zelensky has used martial law to ban a number of Ukrainian opposition parties, including the largest party after his own.www.breitbart.com
Of course, normies don't want to hear these things when they are gushing on about how Ukraine is so amazing and pure. Even if you hate Russia, this doesn't automatically make Ukraine great. Americans still haven't learned from the 1980's when we supported Iraq and Afghanistan against evil USSR and Iran.
Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law...
www.reuters.com
IMF: Ukraine is emerging Europe's poorest country - Emerging Europe
The International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) latest World Economic Outlook report suggests that emerging Europe is continuing to enjoy steady growth, with gross domestic product (GDP) of what the fund terms Emerging and Developing Europe increasing by 3.8 per cent in real terms over the past year...
emerging-europe.com
Welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe
The long read: While the conflict with Russia heats up in the east, life for most Ukrainians is marred by corruption so endemic that even hospitals appear to be infected. Can anyone clean the country up?
www.theguardian.com
Pandora Papers: Ukraine leader seeks to justify offshore accounts
Files obtained by ICIJ claim Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his partners established a network of offshore companies in 2012.
When you show them these headlines from just a few months ago, they literally refuse to believe it and claim that it's "Russian propaganda", despite it being on the most mainstream news sources imaginable such as Reuters and Guardian.
I love Ukraine, but that's in spite of all of its very real and serious flaws. I constantly considered leaving during my first year there. I think of Ukraine as a very acquired taste as far as European countries go, and I think you're right that most of the people flying its flag since supporting Ukraine became the new things would have had a very hard time there even before the war if they'd ever visited.Of course, those same people literally refuse to believe that until December 31st 2021, Ukraine was routinely presented as by far the poorest and most corrupt country in Europe (even worse than Moldova and Belarus), a violent hellhole controlled by neonazi gangs ran by a combination CIA and a totalitarian government.
Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
As Ukraine's struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law...IMF: Ukraine is emerging Europe's poorest country - Emerging Europe
The International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) latest World Economic Outlook report suggests that emerging Europe is continuing to enjoy steady growth, with gross domestic product (GDP) of what the fund terms Emerging and Developing Europe increasing by 3.8 per cent in real terms over the past year...Welcome to Ukraine, the most corrupt nation in Europe
The long read: While the conflict with Russia heats up in the east, life for most Ukrainians is marred by corruption so endemic that even hospitals appear to be infected. Can anyone clean the country up?Pandora Papers: Ukraine leader seeks to justify offshore accounts
Files obtained by ICIJ claim Volodymyr Zelenskyy and his partners established a network of offshore companies in 2012.www.aljazeera.com
When you show them these headlines from just a few months ago, they literally refuse to believe it and claim that it's "Russian propaganda", despite it being on the most mainstream news sources imaginable such as Reuters and Guardian.
Cuchulainn2016
Kingfisher
Off topic, but what 600k buys you for a house in London is horrendously bad.
That's a council house (government housing for poor people) where I live!
This article published by neo-liberal media "Medusa" is entitled "Ukrainians are being welcomed around the world like gods descended upon earth".
This is an interview with Zelensky's "Goebbels" - (((Arestovich))) who also is a homosexual.
This is an interview with Zelensky's "Goebbels" - (((Arestovich))) who also is a homosexual.
I was recently talking to a roommate about this. He brought up the conversation, I didn't want to talk about it with anyone. He mentioned the predicted food shortages due to Russia being a large developer of fertilizer. And then went on about how Ukraine is galvanized against Putin and how Putin is clearly the bad guy here. We argued a bit- no personal insults, just a heated disagreement- about who really is the bad guy here. And yet we agreed that this situation is gonna be bad for America, "win" or "lose."
This guy is a self described proud moderate. The most normal of normies, and even he agrees the big picture here is bad news for America. I wonder if this is indication that the mainstream narrative really is losing its grip upon the minds of the masses. (Or maybe I'm just out of touch with the arguments on the other side of this issue.)
This guy is a self described proud moderate. The most normal of normies, and even he agrees the big picture here is bad news for America. I wonder if this is indication that the mainstream narrative really is losing its grip upon the minds of the masses. (Or maybe I'm just out of touch with the arguments on the other side of this issue.)
I was just walking around the neighborhood the other day. And one of the houses, which did not have it previously, now had a flag of Ukraine hanging proudly, flapping in the wind.
I went up to that house. I thought that maybe it was a Ukrainian family living there, maybe I could chat with them and find what their thoughts are about the whole big mess. As I approached the house, I noticed that the occupants had faces uncharacteristic of Slavic populations. My suspicions were confirmed when I walked up to their midst, and exclaimed very loudly and proudly, pointing at the banner flapping in the wind, "Slava Ukraine!" I expected to hear a "Geroyam Slava" or something similar. Instead I was met with an awkward silence. Finally, someone broke it, "God bless you." -- "Thank you!"
God works in subtle ways indeed!
McDonald’s, Coca-Cola and Starbucks halt Russian sales
Do normies seriously think that this is sticking it to Russia? They're doing them an enormous favour!
Can we also get rid of them in the UK somehow?
For a small, bitterly divided country, Belgium has had a big impact on the world of art with many outstanding painters including Jan Van Eyck, who
was "the first painter to develop effects of richness, brilliance, and intensity in oil paint" (quote from The New American Desk Encyclopedia), and Rogier Van der Weyden, Hugo Van Der Goes, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, Peter Paul Rubens, Anthony Van Dyck, and Rene Magritte.
The painting pictured below is "The Tower of Babel" by Pieter Bruegel the Elder.
Caduceus
Ostrich
What happened to those Black Lives Matter roads? Haven't seen Dr. Fauci in a while.
This is not an official street name change, just something done by normies.
” Ukridiots“ should be made official
The joke on them, someone put the Russian navy flag on the floor there.What happened to those Black Lives Matter roads? Haven't seen Dr. Fauci in a while.
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TruckDriver9
Hummingbird
Seems MSM don't want to cover this:
Bush Jr. pranked: Ex-president duped into admitting US broke NATO promise to Gorbachev
As the years moved on, the US "was adjusting to the times," George W. Bush noted
tass.com