Normies and the Russian-Ukraine war

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
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rodion

Robin
Orthodox
Majority of my normie friends and acquaintances seem convinced that Ukraine are like the Ewoks in the RotJ and things are actually going really badly for Russia. They seem quite confident at the ineptitude of Russia and ghoulish about how many of them are being killed.

I’m treated as a conspiracy theorist for pointing out that virtually every non-MSM analysis of the war paints a rather dire situation for the Ukrainian forces
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Majority of my normie friends and acquaintances seem convinced that Ukraine are like the Ewoks in the RotJ and things are actually going really badly for Russia. They seem quite confident at the ineptitude of Russia and ghoulish about how many of them are being killed.

I’m treated as a conspiracy theorist for pointing out that virtually every non-MSM analysis of the war paints a rather dire situation for the Ukrainian forces

There's zero need to educate them. Unlike the vax mandates, the war in Ukraine won't affect Americans directly for a few more years. However, at some point people will need to be pointed out what fools they are if they think in year 2 or 3 that Ukraine is still somehow winning despite needing trillions in cash and more countries to send in troops.
 

Pointy Elbows

Pelican
Orthodox
Majority of my normie friends and acquaintances seem convinced that Ukraine are like the Ewoks in the RotJ and things are actually going really badly for Russia. They seem quite confident at the ineptitude of Russia and ghoulish about how many of them are being killed.

I’m treated as a conspiracy theorist for pointing out that virtually every non-MSM analysis of the war paints a rather dire situation for the Ukrainian forces
Had an almost identical conversation last night with an old friend. Same response.

It makes me worry about the emotional backlash in the event things become undeniable in a rapid fashion. These are the guys that will be more prone to over-reaction, as they will be so surprised.
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
Best thing to do with normies is make a bet with them. Bet them Ukraine will have less territory, need more money, and Russia will be stronger a year from now. All we can do is plant the seed of doubt, which alters their expectations regarding the outcome of the war. Propaganda loses power if people's expectations are not met.

Same deal as with vaccines, when it became obvious the vax did not protect from any viruses.
 

NoMoreTO

Hummingbird
Catholic
Times are hard at The Atlantic and The Economist. Seems many of their articles were drafted in crayon.

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This is really sad actually. Imagine being a Russian who is trying to fight a war and having to basically kill a woman, a beautiful one at that. I hope the photo are just propaganda and media spin, but it's absolutely disgusting. Or being a Ukranian man trying to fight side by side with this woman and protect her, or see her get shot.

It reminds me how when growing up I'd hear these stories about how children were fighting for the Germans at the end of WW2, it's a sad situation and it means you lost. The same for women fighting in the war.

Women and Children are civilian casualties, which prior to WW1 and particularly WW2 (bombings) were relatively safe. The whole point of fighting a war is to secure their future.

Not much of a comment on the ukranian war, but the state of the world is quite strange with all the feminism.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
There's zero need to educate them. Unlike the vax mandates, the war in Ukraine won't affect Americans directly for a few more years. However, at some point people will need to be pointed out what fools they are if they think in year 2 or 3 that Ukraine is still somehow winning despite needing trillions in cash and more countries to send in troops.

These are the same people who were convinced for over 15 years that the US was winning in Afghanistan
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
Let's break up normies:
  • In my close surroundings 75% don't care one bit on politics, they are with the family, work, dinner, out in the weekend, they say: "i saw something of women who got bombed in a hospital, that's bad" then I explain some things on propaganda and they move to "whatever and those politicians are crooks" (which they already thought) and they just keep doing the stuff they did (which they should)
  • Then there are the parrots, mainly these are "highly educated", as they call themselves. They did some university, have a bachelor diploma, watch talkshows and parrot that at work. These are mostly women living in the city. Showing they are part of the popular good ones. This group is growing fast, I think that's why those in power love university education.
  • There are the activists, those with nose piercings, LGBTQHI in some way, completely lost in life and resentful at the wrong people. For those living a perverted life the light of those living a good life can be too hard too handle. Many real activists get disappointed as well in the leaders.
The people we talk about are the parrots (then covid, then the Ukraine), the "highly educated" city women and the boys who try to appease them.

The city women parrots a core pillar of the power structure. They are supported by the rulers infiltrated functional organisations and destroy them now with jobs as HR manager, legal counsel, climate officer, diversity officer. Their loyalty is to the current thing (it's like people who are passionate about the yearly fashion). Useful idiots. In 30 years they regret having kids and finding a man, probably resentful still that me don't deserve them.

They are encouraged to form a tribe on their own, which is funded by the well known tribal globalists.


This is not for women in general, it's for "professionals", those with a bachelor working in glass towers. (not for housewives in the countryside) For Jews they are perfect, moldable, I encourage you all to take a look at the programs of these organisations, it's full of current thing, they all support the Ukraine. The women networks only operate in the Israel/US lead empire, i missed the chapters in China, India, Bangladesh, Iran.

These girls and women are also our daughters and wives. And they are driven to this by strong forces, but it's also up to us to provide them a home. I don't know how. But splitting it out "highly educated, city women" makes it clear where the problem is. In a way they are a victim of the devil as well, seduced, but slowly hollowed out. Not for nothing many women face burnouts, i think that's real, for them it is also soulcrushing to live the ideal of "sex and the city".

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Men's organisations have been hammered for years, motor clubs, fraternities. If you put 100 guys together and they start talking. They will come to the conclusion, who is this little fag telling us what we should do?

Just want to say it is very systemic, engineered by the elite, they tried to get the blacks on board a few years ago but that didn't really work out, too wild and outspoken so they threw them under the bus, so they will focus on more on professional city women (who are black). If you are a black woman with a bachelor in the city you can make some good money today, you only have to do abortions and speak the globalist talking points.

As it is forbidden to be critical on jews, it is also forbidden to be critical on these women networks, or to be critical on blacks/immigration, opposing this as a man will cost you your career in a big corporation, so many comply.

Big corporations (destroy the small ones), dominated media (destroy the small ones), strong women networks (none for men) provide a strong power structure to keep the population, man and women under control.

Good thing is, in the end truth and reality will always win, the forces of nature, the force of God.
 
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Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
I don't think we'll have to wait that long.

Well, it depends on what we are talking about. In terms of cost of living, the war against Russia is already impacting everyone, worldwide, but in terms of shortages and the draft - which will be coming after the Ukrainians are all dead - America will not be affected nearly as quickly. America will have plenty of food and the draft won't come here until Europe is out of men. So, that's how I arrived at my estimate of a few years, because the things that directly affect Americans will be shortages and drafts.

Europe will be getting it's first taste of shortages this winter, which will last for the rest of the decade, or however long the war against Russia lasts.
 

Handsome Creepy Eel

Peacock
Catholic
Gold Member
Do the normies acutally forget things so quickly? I mean all this talk about the 1million men counter offensive which should start soon.
This got completely dropped but noone seems to bother. It is frustrating.
But captndonk, think of that one building the Ukrainians hit with a missile in Crimea! :blush:
 
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