Norway creating all-female special forces unit called Jegertroppen

DarkTriad

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H1N1 said:
Women can actually be extremely effective intelligence assets, for a number of reasons, some obvious some not. They can also be an intelligence liability, since they fucking love to talk. Women were very useful to us out in Afghanistan within Military Intelligence, and were able to gather quite a lot of actionable information. They make pretty horrible combat troops, of course, but some specialist units where these women can be put into primarily intelligence gathering roles, and have some semblance of a chance of avoiding being raped and killed in the process, is not necessarily as stupid as it may seem.

One has to trust that although the dictats from on high may be primarily motivated by political correctness, those tasked with deploying an effective fighting force will be savvy enough to use the resources at their disposal effectively. There are many roles that women can usefully fill outside of direct combat. It is worth remembering that SF is, outside of the movies, primarily an intelligence gathering operation. Of course, the men will still do the rough stuff, but an intelligent general could find a use for these girls outside of 'camp comfort'.

This. You can tell the girls whatever you want for esprit de corps, but this is a FAR better idea than trying to integrate them with front line combat troops. It's actually a clever way to keep them AWAY from the stuff women suck at, and it actually does help to have women for certain stuff. This is actually much better than what the US military is doing lowering standards for elite units.
 

DarkTriad

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Aurini said:
bacon said:
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What do you expect when a brunnete version of Ellen Degeneres is the Minister of Defense.

More like Minister of Surrender.

Ultimate Surrender? Not sure if we're allowed to post porn links here, but she would be a good candidate.
 

Kona

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eskimobobseal said:
No you're not, sweetheart. The "boys" are carrying at least 5x that weight in other training exercises and you can't keep up, that's why Western militaries are lowering standards to let you in.

They carry 500 pounds? Holy smokes.

And I just read the Norway folks conscript all their bitches. So you meet a woman in Norway, she's been in the army. That's not good. The army, even shitty ones, usually don't turn out pretty lay like creatures.

Aloha!
 

cascadecombo

Ostrich
Translation: when there is no active combat, and the men have put down the most dangerous troops, the women will hold everyone's hand.

Actual translation.

"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
Afghanistan? They're still fighting for that shithole which would devolve into barbarity should NATO leave for even a week? That Afghanistan?

Going on how many years we're still there and with a resurgent Taliban and the pretenders to the throne Islamic State, I wonder if this will ever be called out by the people paying for this country to be sheltered.
 

Kona

Crow
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cascadecombo said:
"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.

No. This is just bullshit to justify their femininity.

What worked better than a woman talking to the women was a US Marine aiming an M4 at their heads. Or aim it at the husband/fathers head. Let him tell the woman.

Also notice the use of the word " mentored." You "mentor" raw food chefs about farm to table produce and other lgbt issues.

The Jergentroppen is too progressive to call it "training" anymore. Sad.

Aloha!
 

cascadecombo

Ostrich
That's the type of actions that encourage young Afghans to join ISIS and provides fuel for the Mujahideen to add more to their ranks.

I'm not trying to advocate pushing a spec ops team of women who thing they can hulk out on a guy and expect some sort of non comical results, but when you have a culture where men are willing to blow themselves up I can't expect using a gun to their head to produce less bodies than answers.
 

Caractacus Potts

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Kona said:
cascadecombo said:
"When [Norway] deployed to Afghanistan we saw that we needed female soldiers. Both as female advisers for the Afghan special police unit that we mentored, but also when we did an arrest," said Col. Frode Kristofferson, the commander of Norway's special forces. "We needed female soldiers to take care of the women and children in the buildings that we searched.

Especially in relation to this, in the Afghan culture women will not speak to men, and in order to communicate with outside forces in a place where spec ops would be, the women, at minimum a translator, is needed to interact with them.

No. This is just bullshit to justify their femininity.

What worked better than a woman talking to the women was a US Marine aiming an M4 at their heads. Or aim it at the husband/fathers head. Let him tell the woman.

Also notice the use of the word " mentored." You "mentor" raw food chefs about farm to table produce and other lgbt issues.

The Jergentroppen is too progressive to call it "training" anymore. Sad.

Aloha!

When I went through Boot Camp we were lectured on the rules of combat and what the Geneva Convention requires of us as members of the US military.

Later on, noncoms would explain to us that it would help to fire a round into the leg of a captured prisoner and then proceed to ask him questions. They were more likely to be cooperative.

We also talked amongst ourselves that we would not leave prisoners alive behind us that we were unable to be secure or hand off to other friendly forces.

Just like life: What it says in the book. How things are in reality.

These female forces will be captured. Raped. Mutilated. THey will then be sent back as a psyop to fuck with us because their bodies and minds will be broken and disfigured.

Can't we just end these ridiculous social experiments already?:mad:
 

Duke Castile

Crow
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DarkTriad said:
H1N1 said:
Women can actually be extremely effective intelligence assets, for a number of reasons, some obvious some not. They can also be an intelligence liability, since they fucking love to talk. Women were very useful to us out in Afghanistan within Military Intelligence, and were able to gather quite a lot of actionable information. They make pretty horrible combat troops, of course, but some specialist units where these women can be put into primarily intelligence gathering roles, and have some semblance of a chance of avoiding being raped and killed in the process, is not necessarily as stupid as it may seem.

One has to trust that although the dictats from on high may be primarily motivated by political correctness, those tasked with deploying an effective fighting force will be savvy enough to use the resources at their disposal effectively. There are many roles that women can usefully fill outside of direct combat. It is worth remembering that SF is, outside of the movies, primarily an intelligence gathering operation. Of course, the men will still do the rough stuff, but an intelligent general could find a use for these girls outside of 'camp comfort'.

This. You can tell the girls whatever you want for esprit de corps, but this is a FAR better idea than trying to integrate them with front line combat troops. It's actually a clever way to keep them AWAY from the stuff women suck at, and it actually does help to have women for certain stuff. This is actually much better than what the US military is doing lowering standards for elite units.

Maybe I am wrong but as far as I know Special Forces is NOT primarily an intelligence gathering unit and has never been that I'm aware of.

I guess Norwary's is possibly different (it seems you are referencing American movies though) but the US Army's SF mission is this;

The United States Army Special Forces have five primary missions: unconventional warfare (the original and most important mission of Special Forces), foreign internal defense, special reconnaissance, direct action, and counter-terrorism. Other duties include combat search and rescue (CSAR), counter-narcotics, counter-proliferation, hostage rescue, humanitarian assistance, humanitarian demining, information operations, peacekeeping, psychological operations, security assistance, and manhunts.Special Forces have the ability to be virtually everywhere at once; this guarantees that they are the first on the ground or already at a crisis location when trouble starts.

Also, call me crazy, I doubt there is a woman around that knows more than any of the men.
 

RBerkley

 
Banned
...So after thousands of Bodybags of men being returned from Iraq & Afghanistan during 2003-2011, along with tens of thousands of other men losing limbs, PTSD coming home basically in a worse state than before the War...

They now find it convenient to send overpaid women to "work" in the Armed Forces for the Afghanistan mission after the War?

Fuck that shit. It's another Pet Project to encourage Afghani women to become feminists and snitch on their husbands who are probably walking with camel in the desert rather than learning how to demolish 100-story buildings thousands of miles away from a cave.

Plus, Afghanistan is a Patriarchal society. Women aren't involved in the political aspect, unless one wants to indoctrinate them with feminist value, etc.

Iraq-Afghanistan war is almost over too, except in Libya & Syria where Hitlery Clinton fucked up and cause turmoil.
 

TheFinalEpic

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Watch the video in the link, its very telling. Some observations:

1. They move significantly slower than male soldiers, with far less intensity, they look like this is for "fun".

2. Watch the girl throw a smoke grenade halfway through. She can't even clear the camera frame before it starts dropping. The throwing technique is extremely weak.

3. The male saying "we need female soldiers" can't believe his own bullshit. He stutters around saying pre fabricated talking points.

This "special forces" unit would be over run by the lowest of grunts in any male army. I'm sorry girls, but you can contribute to the military by being trauma nurses like in wars of past. That's where you're needed, not on the frontlines.
 

Leonard D Neubache

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Let's put aside pure physical differences for a second.

My perpetual experience with women being trained for any sort of emergency situation is that they can absolutely pass standardised tests, they can absolutely get things right on a dry run, but when it's real blood and real guts they simply shut down, guaranteed.

The only time sensitive emergency situation I've seen a bare fraction of women operate capably in is a medical emergency occurring in a sheltered medical environment such as a hospital. Out in the world no matter how much training they've done, their every instinct screams at them to step aside and wait for qualified men to arrive.
 

Sp5

 
Banned
They are doing it right in the sense that the unit is all female, not integrated. That just causes drama and intrigue when the woman is down to fuck superiors or peers.

Could be useful in recon roles. There are already females salted around in various countries SOF doing that. Send a woman in, because they don't have that rock-hard look most of SOF do.
 

cascadecombo

Ostrich
Plus, Afghanistan is a Patriarchal society. Women aren't involved in the political aspect, unless one wants to indoctrinate them with feminist value, etc

Now I have limited understanding as to how much they actually participate, and granted this is mostly for the Kabul central govt not the taliban areas but.

Where you would be right, small councils are almost exclusively all male in regards, those are also generally limited to single villages or small regional areas.

The Meshrano Jirga consists of a mixture of appointed and elected members (total 102 members). Sixty-eight members were selected by 34 directly elected Provincial Councils, and 34 were appointed by the President. President Karzai’s appointments were vetted by an independent UN sponsored election board and included 17 women (50%), as required by the Constitution.

Really makes me wonder how much you actually know before posting, or just regurgitating what you see on Facebook.
 

tomzestatlu

Kingfisher
Agnostic
I don´t understand this. The only reason why there should be SOF made from women is in case, when there is a kitchen, that needs special operations.
 

la bodhisattva

Kingfisher
If the oral and written history of all humanity across all cultures have taught us one thing, it's that female-only groups thrive in the areas of cooperation and efficiency.

Of the 171 standing militaries in the world, none place any real reliance on females in general, let alone legit combat. The audacity of Norway to think it's somehow the only nation clever and "progressive" enough to tap this "instrumental" fighting force.
 
This absolutely nuts - like Antifa who sends their women to the front of the lines.



They should learn from the experience of the Israelis - their army and country is beset by the same feminist virus - you gotta watch those harpies scream as an Israeli officer dishes out the truth.
 
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