NYC is Dead Forever

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Curious what other Cities are as bad as NYC? Portland, Seattle and Chicago as well as DC come to mind:

 

animum-rege

Sparrow
LA: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...od-Apocalypse-rich-famous-fleeing-droves.html

Boston is at risk due to huge number of easily remote jobs in tech/pharma and a dependance on colleges and universities.

Also, it's not just NYC — every city in that metro area including Hoboken, JC, Newark, Stanford, White Plains etc. is going to suffer. They all developed alongside NYC in the last 20 years, with overabundant interest from mobile young professionals and families.
 
According to official American statistics, there are 190 Protestant and 430 Catholic Churches in New York, but 1000 synagogues. What else should one expect of a city with a Jewish mayor who recently attempted at a reception for foreign journalists to explain European problems in the jargon of the gangsters! The Jews have given their stamp not only to this city, but the whole of public life.

. . . . . .

One feels the need to wash one’s hands after reading American newspapers. They are filled with intellectual filth.
Snippet from an essay penned by Joseph Goebbels on August 9, 1942.

As much as the current generation may wish to tackle the nightmare living scenarios in large metropolitan areas as a new or developing problem, the seeds were sown over two centuries. If you had more synagogues than Churches combined, imagine the filth and garbage produced in that area. One bad decision after another, it was only a matter of time.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Good article. What are the most likely cities to see a mass exodus?

New York City
Chicago
San Francisco
Portland
Seattle

They will then go to the 2nd tier cities and turn them into crapholes within five years time. Austin is already becoming unlivable.
From media reports, LA and Atlanta need to be on the list as well...
 

R.G.Camara

Woodpecker
Curious what other Cities are as bad as NYC? Portland, Seattle and Chicago as well as DC come to mind:

This race to become 1976 in NYC has happened so rapidly, its unreal.

For you younger guys, from the mid 1960-1990, NYC went from a very livable big city to a city so in ruins with crime and such that it was the city of the Apocalypse. Remember that films like Taxi Driver, The Warriors, Death Wish, Escape from New York, Jason Takes Manhattan, and Fort Apache, the Bronx were all made during this time period, and were all about how awful and crime-ridden and filthy NYC had become.

Heck, it got so bad that when The Godfather film came out in 1972, and other retrospective gangster movies came out as well during the 1970s (the 1970s saw a boom in films set in the 1920s and 1930s, especially about Prohibition-type gangsters), depicting mafioso family running their parts of the city with an iron grip that kept riffraff and random violent crime low, many people began to wistfully half-jokingly argue that maybe we should stop arresting the Mafia and just allow them to run the neighborhoods again, as at least it kept them clean and orderly.

1976-1979 were the peak awful years for NYC, but until 1991 it was all awful. Graffiti was everywhere, people jumped subway turnstiles without paying and littered with impunity, and business either closed and boarded up or locked down hard core at night.

In 1976, the city went bankrupt. In 1977, the serial killer David Berkowitz (the Son of Sam) ran amok in the city, and during the 1977 World Series the Bronx was lit on fire as the Yankees played for the title just a few blocks away. The 1980s got little better; in 1983 a famous NY headline was about a "Headless Body Found in a Topless Bar."

By the mid 1980s things got so bad that in 1984 a quiet weirdo by the name of Bernie Goetz got a hold of a gun an executed a gang of four "youthful" muggers on the subway; he was acquitted of most charges as the city largely made him into a hero, doing what the authorities refused to do. (Goetz's assault is famously the inspiration for the one in the film Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix, but of course they changed the "ghetto youths of color" to....4 blond wealthy Wall Street traders randomly harassing people.)

Thankfully, in 1991 Giuliani was elected on a law-and-order platform and radically cleaned up the city. By 1998 the crime had dropped from a madhouse rate to a quiet suburban rate. Bloomberg followed Giuliani, and, despite his swerve left in the this last election, stayed committed to his law-and-order policy (i.e. Broken Windows, Stop-and-Frisk).

I'd never thought it would come back so swiftly. But the commie NYC mayor de Blasio has, in 8 years of his rule, made it a 1976 sh*thole again.

Will NYC come back? It could if a law-and-order guy like Giuliani got elected again. But really, that would require a mass change in how race and crime are viewed. BLM and Antifa and the Left are hardcore against race realism when it comes to crime, and the average folks are scared to even broach the subject, even if they believe the truth.
 
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R.G.Camara

Woodpecker
Add Minneapolis and Milwaukee to the list. Also, New Jersey.
Newark and Camden, NJ have been DOA for a while.

Even during the peak low national crime rate years of the 2000s, and when right-next-door NYC's crime rate was ridiculously low (lower than most small towns), I was told by police officers I shouldn't walk through Newark alone, and never at night, and always with a knife.
 

animum-rege

Sparrow
By the way, have you noticed that all of these cities have either lawyers or career politicians for mayors? There’s a lesson here.
  • De Blasio - career pol
  • Lightfoot (Chicago) - lawyer
  • Jacob Frey (Minneapolis) - lawyer
  • Jenny Durkan (Seattle) - lawyer
  • Steve Adler (Austin) - lawyer
Lawyers and politicians don’t know how to build things. They don’t know how to manage people. They are skilled in exactly one thing, being persuasive and convincing you they are right. It’s all a facade. When faced with hard times, their “leadership” capabilities vanish.

We should have never let these ineffectual creeps anywhere near public office.
 

EndlessGravity

Woodpecker
They will then go to the 2nd tier cities and turn them into crapholes within five years time. Austin is already becoming unlivable.
I haven't checked yet but I'd put down money that you can go look at which of these cities had existing, minor, and decades-long movement out to second and third tier metros to know exactly where these idiots are going.

Chattanooga
Raleigh
Tampa
Etc.

Cities like these are the path of least resistance. They'll take the brunt.
 

homersheineken

Woodpecker
Good article. What are the most likely cities to see a mass exodus?

New York City
Chicago
San Francisco
Portland
Seattle

They will then go to the 2nd tier cities and turn them into crapholes within five years time. Austin is already becoming unlivable.
Austin just slashed the police fund by 1/3. They are going to return to the Old West of gun fights and crime. I'd like to see that happen to city council, mayor, and other idiots that were for this.
 
Even the cities where he mentions people are going are well on the way to being uninhabitable (Nashville, Miami, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City, Dallas). Even these second/third tier cities have largely joined the rest in being little more than large migrant slums. They have a few decent neighborhoods/suburbs where Americans have fled in order to have order and safe (relatively) public schools, slowly abandoning the cities. The cultural pretensions of American cities were always laughable compared to the leading cities of Europe and Asia but they really offer nothing now with the closing, COVID restrictions and the competing offerings onlines.
 
Here's a bit of an out-of-the-box take on this: with the stimulus checks and unemployment checks we basically instituted "basic universal income", but we kept the "war on drugs" in place which kept drugs expensive.

I keep wondering, what if any drug you wanted was available in any quantity you wanted at walmart prices. I wonder if most of the degenerates currently out on the street would take the money, use it to dope themselves into a pleasant oblivion, and stay off the streets.

See, drugs are currently a problem for society for two reasons. The first is that make you forego more productive activities. Picture the pot-head sitting on his couch watching Captain Kangaroo for 12 hours. But here's the thing - that problem is identical to the problem with porn. And we on the right are already facing down that problem. We're already changing our subculture to address porn. We're already starting to value discipline and self control above hedonism.

In other words, ending drug prohibition wouldn't affect us much, since we're already developing ways to avoid porn.

The other problem with drugs is the crime. But that's actually not a problem "with drugs" it's a problem with prohibition, because prohibition makes drugs too expensive for a loser to be able to afford. I think that ending prohibition would end most drug-related crime.

So the tl;dr here is, if we're going to spend trillions giving people basic universal income, I think we should also give them legal drugs. I suspect they would choose that over rioting, and I don't think legal drugs would harm people in our community very much.
 
Here's a bit of an out-of-the-box take on this: with the stimulus checks and unemployment checks we basically instituted "basic universal income", but we kept the "war on drugs" in place which kept drugs expensive.

I keep wondering, what if any drug you wanted was available in any quantity you wanted at walmart prices. I wonder if most of the degenerates currently out on the street would take the money, use it to dope themselves into a pleasant oblivion, and stay off the streets.

See, drugs are currently a problem for society for two reasons. The first is that make you forego more productive activities. Picture the pot-head sitting on his couch watching Captain Kangaroo for 12 hours. But here's the thing - that problem is identical to the problem with porn. And we on the right are already facing down that problem. We're already changing our subculture to address porn. We're already starting to value discipline and self control above hedonism.

In other words, ending drug prohibition wouldn't affect us much, since we're already developing ways to avoid porn.

The other problem with drugs is the crime. But that's actually not a problem "with drugs" it's a problem with prohibition, because prohibition makes drugs too expensive for a loser to be able to afford. I think that ending prohibition would end most drug-related crime.

So the tl;dr here is, if we're going to spend trillions giving people basic universal income, I think we should also give them legal drugs. I suspect they would choose that over rioting, and I don't think legal drugs would harm people in our community very much.
Good point. It's difficult for me (Gen X'er) to overcome historic aversion to such conversations but I am starting to appreciate the need to have them and the validity of some of the counterpoints I would have previously dismissed out of hand.
 
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