NYC is Dead Forever

mubs100

Sparrow
I think a great thing to come out of this pandemic is that people may be seeing just how easy it is to work from home with technology. I was against the modern set-up of having lots of people in these open-plan offices spending all their time there and that was one of the things I hated most about the modern world.

I'm not sure the extent to which the establishment/capitalists/bosses really are happy with working from home but it if turns out ok for them and the trend increases wont it have a big impact on how we structure cities and how we decide to live and cluster together. It could change everything.
 

Easy_C

Crow
The other reason to be skeptical of prohibitions is that they simply aren’t very effective. I feel like it’s much more effective to treat heard drug users as addicts and instead go aggressively after distribution.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
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A mad rush for the exits as New York City goes down the tubes

United Van Lines, too, cites a whopping 95 percent spike, year over year, in interest in moving out of Manhattan between May and July, versus just 19 percent nationally.

Sure, many of those who’ve headed out were merely trying to escape COVID, which socked the city in the spring. Some may even return; a reported spike in storage-space business is a sign they will.

Yet the fact that the rush for the exits continues to grow, even as new coronavirus cases have plummeted, suggests other reasons. Like the crime wave: The number of shootings per day, for instance, has doubled since last year. Other crimes are up, too.

City and state officials have fueled crime, setting inmates at jails and prisons free and handcuffing cops, and they refuse to do anything meaningful to roll it back. Prosecutors, too, are declining to prosecute. Judges are letting suspects walk.

Last month, Bronx Criminal Court Judge Jeanine Johnson released an illegal-immigrant rape suspect, on no bail. Last year, she let a convicted killer and reputed gangbanger walk bail-free after a gun bust.

Quality of life has plunged, as well. Even the owner of an Upper West Side hotel the city’s now using to house homeless derelicts has put his nearby mansion up for sale, as The Post reports Wednesday.

Lousy schools and even worse online classes provide yet another reason for folks to skedaddle.

Ditto for high taxes, which de Blasio — and fellow Democrats in the Legislature — are itching to raise even more.

And remember, the Escape From New York actually began long before the pandemic: Data last year, based on the 2018 Census, showed that the metro area was tops in the nation in net population loss, with 277 people leaving, on average, every day — twice the rate in 2017.



Antifa Hipsters mostly White anarchists Trash upscale Brooklyn Williamsburg Whole Foods and Apple Stores so much for Cook and Bezos corp support of BLMantifas...
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
FYI Altucher said friends of his moved to Nashville, Miami, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City, Dallas, yes even he is renting a house now in Miami... so be forewarned these are the cities NYCers are moving to and bring their NYC AOC Bernie socialist BLMantifa Marxist political beliefs to.

You can take the (((New Yorker))) out of NYC but you can't take the NYC out of the (((New Yorker)))...
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
The real megatrend impact on cities will be TaaS - once they have a cure for Covid and future mutations...

WHITNEY TILSON: How To Profit From The Electric Car & Autonomous Driving Revolution (It's NOT Tesla)


Covid question is who and how are these TaaSmobiles sanitized between riders???

Interesting estimate that most personal autos only in use 4% of the time and TaaS will free up so much parking lot space that Cities like LA will be able to Triple in Population... that means 3 times plus as much Chaos... Imagine Social Credit Score implemented if you have outstanding tickets, taxes or child support - NO rides or Groceries for you Whitey! But Azz Gas and Grass BLMantifas ride for free...


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I think a great thing to come out of this pandemic is that people may be seeing just how easy it is to work from home with technology. I was against the modern set-up of having lots of people in these open-plan offices spending all their time there and that was one of the things I hated most about the modern world.
I think this "silver lining" is what the Elites intended all along. They sacrificed the big metropolises because they realized they have outlived their usefulness--now that the camel is fully inside the tent, there's no need to disassemble the tent. (Camel in this case are the millions of immigrants, legal and otherwise, that have flowed in).

You may escape the City, but the City still has you by the short-n-curlies' if you're using their virtual infrastructure to get a paycheck and have health insurance. That's four points of contact with the System (telecommunications, employment, finance and healthcare) without having to be physically present in their concrete graveyards.

I've been considering relocating to a deep red area (NOT a city) after I cast my useless vote this election, and this is enabled by telework--but for this to be meaningful, telework will only be a transitional state, not permanent. They'll likely lay me off anyway. I'd have to find work tied physically to my new location. It doesn't have to be flashy, but it only has to provide for my needs.
 

infowarrior1

Hummingbird
This race to become 1976 in NYC has happened so rapidly, its unreal.

For you younger guys, from the mid 1960-1990, NYC went from a very livable big city to a city so in ruins with crime and such that it was the city of the Apocalypse. Remember that films like Taxi Driver, The Warriors, Death Wish, Escape from New York, Jason Takes Manhattan, and Fort Apache, the Bronx were all made during this time period, and were all about how awful and crime-ridden and filthy NYC had become.

Heck, it got so bad that when The Godfather film came out in 1972, and other retrospective gangster movies came out as well during the 1970s (the 1970s saw a boom in films set in the 1920s and 1930s, especially about Prohibition-type gangsters), depicting mafioso family running their parts of the city with an iron grip that kept riffraff and random violent crime low, many people began to wistfully half-jokingly argue that maybe we should stop arresting the Mafia and just allow them to run the neighborhoods again, as at least it kept them clean and orderly.

1976-1979 were the peak awful years for NYC, but until 1991 it was all awful. Graffiti was everywhere, people jumped subway turnstiles without paying and littered with impunity, and business either closed and boarded up or locked down hard core at night.

In 1976, the city went bankrupt. In 1977, the serial killer David Berkowitz (the Son of Sam) ran amok in the city, and during the 1977 World Series the Bronx was lit on fire as the Yankees played for the title just a few blocks away. The 1980s got little better; in 1983 a famous NY headline was about a "Headless Body Found in a Topless Bar."

By the mid 1980s things got so bad that in 1984 a quiet weirdo by the name of Bernie Goetz got a hold of a gun an executed a gang of four "youthful" muggers on the subway; he was acquitted of most charges as the city largely made him into a hero, doing what the authorities refused to do. (Goetz's assault is famously the inspiration for the one in the film Joker starring Joaquin Phoenix, but of course they changed the "ghetto youths of color" to....4 blond wealthy Wall Street traders randomly harassing people.)

Thankfully, in 1991 Giuliani was elected on a law-and-order platform and radically cleaned up the city. By 1998 the crime had dropped from a madhouse rate to a quiet suburban rate. Bloomberg followed Giuliani, and, despite his swerve left in the this last election, stayed committed to his law-and-order policy (i.e. Broken Windows, Stop-and-Frisk).

I'd never thought it would come back so swiftly. But the commie NYC mayor de Blasio has, in 8 years of his rule, made it a 1976 sh*thole again.

Will NYC come back? It could if a law-and-order guy like Giuliani got elected again. But really, that would require a mass change in how race and crime are viewed. BLM and Antifa and the Left are hardcore against race realism when it comes to crime, and the average folks are scared to even broach the subject, even if they believe the truth.
Race and IQ doesn't matter in the eyes of God as much as Righteousness. Yet because of the cult of leftist egalitarianism.

The wicked are not punished as they should. It wouldn't be an issue if law and order is actually applied and all murderous/treasonous criminals end up dead as they deserve.

I'd say Giuliani didn't go far enough. Because he didn't push for capital punishment in all cases of murder for example.

It shouldn't matter when the wicked are dealt with in Justice.
 

Deepdiver

Crow
Gold Member
Race and IQ doesn't matter in the eyes of God as much as Righteousness. Yet because of the cult of leftist egalitarianism.

The wicked are not punished as they should. It wouldn't be an issue if law and order is actually applied and all murderous/treasonous criminals end up dead as they deserve.

I'd say Giuliani didn't go far enough. Because he didn't push for capital punishment in all cases of murder for example.

It shouldn't matter when the wicked are dealt with in Justice.

This is the Anti-Christian plan being implemented by Satan's (((Minions))) Soros, Bloomberg, DeBlasio, Gates, Fauci et. al.
 

EndlessGravity

Kingfisher
The real megatrend impact on cities will be TaaS - once they have a cure for Covid and future mutations...

To add to this: the direction of cars is going toward specialized mechanics only. So no local mechanics because they won't be able to work on these vehicles in the futures.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn all this was just a way of seeding people from liberal mega-cities to 2nd and 3rd-sized metros, eliminate our long-term reliance on oil, herd everyone into Big Tech, and drop the need to maintain large sections of infrastructure.
 

RDF

Woodpecker
Los Angeles weather is too good to see a major exodus. The downtown LA area has seen rates plummet by 30%+ and will likely continue to do so. Meanwhile, the beach cities are thriving. This will likely continue.
 

animum-rege

Sparrow
Even the cities where he mentions people are going are well on the way to being uninhabitable (Nashville, Miami, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City, Dallas). Even these second/third tier cities have largely joined the rest in being little more than large migrant slums. They have a few decent neighborhoods/suburbs where Americans have fled in order to have order and safe (relatively) public schools, slowly abandoning the cities. The cultural pretensions of American cities were always laughable compared to the leading cities of Europe and Asia but they really offer nothing now with the closing, COVID restrictions and the competing offerings onlines.

I am much more optimistic about the future of cities like the ones in your list. They are far more accessible than the coastal cities.

All of the cities on your list are ringed by exceptionally high QOL suburbs/exurbs. For example, you can live in a beautiful, quiet neighborhood in Denver with virtually no crime and great schools, but be a 30-45 minute drive from the city for your museum visits, shows, fine dining, sports etc.. Parking in a secured lot and avoiding spending too much time on the streets.

Compare this to NYC or LA, where the only way to get to the urban core is 1+ hours of white-knuckle driving, or several hours of public transit, to penetrate the unGodly urban sprawl and mechanized wastelands surrounding these places.

I suspect the post-COVID future will actually boost 2nd and 3rd-tier cities as a new generation of affluent, non-commuting white collar professionals develops the suburbs/exurbs while still dipping into the city for culture, dining, sports etc.. James Altucher's recent piece makes a really good point, we are living in a post-bandwidth-restricted age, and that could reverse the urbanization trend of the last 30 years.
 

Blade Runner

Kingfisher
What's your take on the Nashville, Denver, Dallas axis? Gun rights seem to protect TN and TX better, but Colorado might have an advantage on the homogeneity part, even with dead head hippie smokers out there.
 

Johnny Rico

Woodpecker
Consider the following: Communist states (Soviet Union, Cambodia, North Korea etc) restrict travel and make citizens apply and be approved for residency in cities. They make the cities livable on the backs of suffering peasants in rural areas living in squalor and fear.

Is it possible that this exodus from the cities is so the elites can take control of the cities and make the new peasants apply for residency in the future?
 

Easy_C

Crow
FYI Altucher said friends of his moved to Nashville, Miami, Austin, Denver, Salt Lake City, Dallas, yes even he is renting a house now in Miami... so be forewarned these are the cities NYCers are moving to and bring their NYC AOC Bernie socialist BLMantifa Marxist political beliefs to.

You can take the (((New Yorker))) out of NYC but you can't take the NYC out of the (((New Yorker)))...

Most of those cities are already full of people like that. Ironically they're moving to places where those same problems exist. At least in NYC the Hudson River means that the black bloc types have a more difficult time assembling in the suburbs that exist on the other side of the Bridge and Holland tunnel and when they get there they end up in Hispanic neighborhoods like Weehawken.
 

Laner

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Los Angeles weather is too good to see a major exodus. The downtown LA area has seen rates plummet by 30%+ and will likely continue to do so. Meanwhile, the beach cities are thriving. This will likely continue.

Exactly. The whole of California has got to be perhaps the most geographically gifted piece of dirt on the planet. It was a literal Garden of Eden.

It has the been the corrupt elite who ruined California. But California as a place will still be the land of plenty.
 
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