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<blockquote data-quote="Simeon_Strangelight" data-source="post: 1183522" data-attributes="member: 6783">Paracelsus put it well and this is exactly what I meant. This idea that you can leave your sexless marriage and leave your children in the hands of a single mother and an assortment of &quot;uncles&quot; is no way to go about it. Instead try to make it work somehow with wifey at least until the children are in their teens, rather cheat on the side. When the kids are older, then it does not impact them anywhere near as much. The only cases where divorce is justified if either the man or the woman is highly toxic for the children. Most frivorces now at rates of 70-80% are initiated by women and not because the Alpha husband cheated too much. That is a ridiculous amount of divorces. Most often women are bored or they cheat behind the backs of their men and then leave them. My views of marriage are not as &quot;iron-clad-until-death-do-us-part&quot;, but there has to be a balance struck. Many women blow up marriages needlessly, men are the lesser evil at least in countries like the US and many Western states. Also I might add - stable married families are increasingly becoming a privilege of the upper 20%. The other social strata are left in the ruins of the dysfunction, some tribes don't even marry and the majority of the kids are out of wedlock and worse - there is not even much of a bond between the father. You don't necessarily have to be married to create a strong nuclear family. I am sure that quite a few cheating married men saved their marriages and later did not regret it as the last decades of marriage are seldom spent fucking 24/7. The kids and grandkids still have a home to go to for Christmas and not 2 other places or awkward single-mother shacks of emptiness. Even the cheating husband later may cherish his wife.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Simeon_Strangelight, post: 1183522, member: 6783"] Paracelsus put it well and this is exactly what I meant. This idea that you can leave your sexless marriage and leave your children in the hands of a single mother and an assortment of "uncles" is no way to go about it. Instead try to make it work somehow with wifey at least until the children are in their teens, rather cheat on the side. When the kids are older, then it does not impact them anywhere near as much. The only cases where divorce is justified if either the man or the woman is highly toxic for the children. Most frivorces now at rates of 70-80% are initiated by women and not because the Alpha husband cheated too much. That is a ridiculous amount of divorces. Most often women are bored or they cheat behind the backs of their men and then leave them. My views of marriage are not as "iron-clad-until-death-do-us-part", but there has to be a balance struck. Many women blow up marriages needlessly, men are the lesser evil at least in countries like the US and many Western states. Also I might add - stable married families are increasingly becoming a privilege of the upper 20%. The other social strata are left in the ruins of the dysfunction, some tribes don't even marry and the majority of the kids are out of wedlock and worse - there is not even much of a bond between the father. You don't necessarily have to be married to create a strong nuclear family. I am sure that quite a few cheating married men saved their marriages and later did not regret it as the last decades of marriage are seldom spent fucking 24/7. The kids and grandkids still have a home to go to for Christmas and not 2 other places or awkward single-mother shacks of emptiness. Even the cheating husband later may cherish his wife. [/QUOTE]

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