RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
LOL I didn't even notice the quotes.
JayR said:
LOL I didn't even notice the quotes.
NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep With Mothers"
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These soycialist subversives can't die off soon enough.
Ironic considering how much they love evolution.
Ironic considering how much they love evolution.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
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Chowder Head said:
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Fender_Bender
Woodpecker
StrikeBack said:
Good for pointing that out. Had crossed my mind in the past seeing people's FB photos and cucklords like this guy. It is oddly unsettling to look at photos like this - they are unnatural and seem to exude (intentionally or not) a sense of smug power from the female as beta gazes at her like a puppy dog in a "look don't touch" holding pattern. Looks all too natural to this guy though, he's lucky to get a clammy HJ every few months in his current situation.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
The real question is how hard was (((Stepehen Marche))) cumming into his potted plant while he was writing this degenerate trash?
It's never a surprise now how it's always one of the tribe coming up with this shit.
Handsome Creepy Eel said:
The real question is how hard was (((Stepehen Marche))) cumming into his potted plant while he was writing this degenerate trash?
It's never a surprise now how it's always one of the tribe coming up with this shit.
puckerman
Ostrich
Growing up, I honestly didn't know that "men" like this even existed. I don't now if I ever encountered one until I moved to Austin. Then I realized that my first cousin of mine has always been one of these pussies.
To be brutally honest, I have to wonder how this "guy" was raised. What did these guys see when they were growing up? Who were his male influences? Did he have any?
Back where I grew up, I know boys who grew up without fathers. They still grew up to be real men. They would never embarrass themselves by writing drivel like this.
To be brutally honest, I have to wonder how this "guy" was raised. What did these guys see when they were growing up? Who were his male influences? Did he have any?
Back where I grew up, I know boys who grew up without fathers. They still grew up to be real men. They would never embarrass themselves by writing drivel like this.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
^ even a broken clock is right twice a day. Read his fiction. He's broken as fuck & no doubt a fan of soy.
Molyneux's not having it...
^ even a broken clock is right twice a day. Read his fiction. He's broken as fuck & no doubt a fan of soy.
Molyneux's not having it...
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
I wouldn't call it the right answer. He says culture, not morality, will save us. Anyone who thinks that, looking at our present culture, is insane. Absolutely insane.
Remember your Taleb: all it takes to convert a vast mass of indifferent, tolerant, bored people is a small minority of intolerant, virtuous people. All it took to ditch Bertrand Russell -- deep thinker but certified degenerate -- from his university position was a few intolerant right wing women. But that sort of change takes the conviction of morality, not the anchorless, loose idea of culture; individual morality in that scenario is against culture.
And anyone who thinks he is a monster has self-hatred issues that our present culture will not cure in a thousand years.
king bast said:
I wouldn't call it the right answer. He says culture, not morality, will save us. Anyone who thinks that, looking at our present culture, is insane. Absolutely insane.
Remember your Taleb: all it takes to convert a vast mass of indifferent, tolerant, bored people is a small minority of intolerant, virtuous people. All it took to ditch Bertrand Russell -- deep thinker but certified degenerate -- from his university position was a few intolerant right wing women. But that sort of change takes the conviction of morality, not the anchorless, loose idea of culture; individual morality in that scenario is against culture.
And anyone who thinks he is a monster has self-hatred issues that our present culture will not cure in a thousand years.
How can you claim that morality & culture are inseparable when we are witnessing the decline (or manipulation, if you like) of morality in front of our very eyes, & yet the culture continues to "evolve" & exist?
The two are very separable & operate as concepts on different levels. Morality (or more accurately our concept/definition of such) is no more integral than any other part of our culture that we deem "inconvenient".
The two are very separable & operate as concepts on different levels. Morality (or more accurately our concept/definition of such) is no more integral than any other part of our culture that we deem "inconvenient".
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
Only in this respect: to destroy the latter, you must debase the former. This has been the rule of civilisation from the Roman Empire onwards. Morality is held inwardly, it is a matter of character, it is the internal rules by which a person chooses to live, their integrity. Its operative mechanism is guilt. Culture, so far as it shapes a society, is all external behaviours and the expectations of others. Its operative mechanism is shame.
Confusing morality with culture is to succumb to the siren song of the Left, moral relativism: to first say that morals are artificial ideals imposed by society and one's location in the world. From there it is a short, dark hopscotch game to reach the poisoned vein in anthropology that there is no such thing as a universal human nature.
king bast said:
Only in this respect: to destroy the latter, you must debase the former. This has been the rule of civilisation from the Roman Empire onwards. Morality is held inwardly, it is a matter of character, it is the internal rules by which a person chooses to live, their integrity. Its operative mechanism is guilt. Culture, so far as it shapes a society, is all external behaviours and the expectations of others. Its operative mechanism is shame.
Confusing morality with culture is to succumb to the siren song of the Left, moral relativism: to first say that morals are artificial ideals imposed by society and one's location in the world. From there it is a short, dark hopscotch game to reach the poisoned vein in anthropology that there is no such thing as a universal human nature.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
For most people, "morality" extends only so far as 1.what is legal, and 2. What they think those around them want to hear.
Note in the conventional phases - "most adults do not progress past this stage".
So when a majority, or at least a large segment of the population hold a "morality" that was intitially dictated to them, and then reinforces itself via social pressure, it becomes a very big part of the culture - For example the recent gay marriage thing. Leftists genuinely believed it was their moral imperative to vote for it, as a result of their morality being inextricably intertwined with the pervasive culture. If the cultures fucked, a majority of peoples sense of morality is fucked.
Conscious Pirate said:
For most people, "morality" extends only so far as 1.what is legal, and 2. What they think those around them want to hear.
Note in the conventional phases - "most adults do not progress past this stage".
So when a majority, or at least a large segment of the population hold a "morality" that was intitially dictated to them, and then reinforces itself via social pressure, it becomes a very big part of the culture - For example the recent gay marriage thing. Leftists genuinely believed it was their moral imperative to vote for it, as a result of their morality being inextricably intertwined with the pervasive culture. If the cultures fucked, a majority of peoples sense of morality is fucked.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
Not directly - you simply visiting a search engine tells them nothing other than what you're searching for right then. However, since you visit many Google Analytics-equipped websites every day, Google will have a general profile of you based on your browsing habits and then they can suggest search terms to you based on that profile.
Incognito mode will partially stop this because cookies and scripts get deleted after you close the browser, but that's not why I was using it. I was simply at an office and didn't want to leave a trail.
For sustained untrackable browsing, use an adblocker addon. You can't always remember to use incognito, and it's a hassle to live without any cookies at all.
Vasily Zaytsev said:
Not directly - you simply visiting a search engine tells them nothing other than what you're searching for right then. However, since you visit many Google Analytics-equipped websites every day, Google will have a general profile of you based on your browsing habits and then they can suggest search terms to you based on that profile.
Incognito mode will partially stop this because cookies and scripts get deleted after you close the browser, but that's not why I was using it. I was simply at an office and didn't want to leave a trail.
For sustained untrackable browsing, use an adblocker addon. You can't always remember to use incognito, and it's a hassle to live without any cookies at all.
RE: NYT: "If You Let Boys Be Boys, They will Murder their Fathers & Sleep Wit...
This was a good and righteous video.
In his way, Molyneux is saying that we all affect and influence one another, and the idea that women don't influence what men are like, by who they decide to have children with, and also by how they raise their boys, makes no sense.
He also points out that this sort of sweeping generalization about a gruop would be widely criticized if it were made about any group but men.
It is so easy to simply say that the problem is men, period, and that is why people do it, not because it is true.
Conscious Pirate said:
This was a good and righteous video.
In his way, Molyneux is saying that we all affect and influence one another, and the idea that women don't influence what men are like, by who they decide to have children with, and also by how they raise their boys, makes no sense.
He also points out that this sort of sweeping generalization about a gruop would be widely criticized if it were made about any group but men.
It is so easy to simply say that the problem is men, period, and that is why people do it, not because it is true.
No kb, & I'm sorry to be so trite about it, but morality is quite objective, because it is universal in nature. The study of philosophy (the precursor & basis of the scientific method - which is widely accepted these days) shows us this.
We just don't study philosophy anymore or recognise its objectivity because of it's "inconvenience" (we see this in science too). Heck, we even talk about "your philosophy" & "my philosophy" - neither of which actually exist. Philosophy is philosophy. Evidence + Reason/Logic = Virtue begets Happiness.
Subjective Experience & Perspective is yours to own (& ours to recognise) & does not belong to philosophy.
We just don't study philosophy anymore or recognise its objectivity because of it's "inconvenience" (we see this in science too). Heck, we even talk about "your philosophy" & "my philosophy" - neither of which actually exist. Philosophy is philosophy. Evidence + Reason/Logic = Virtue begets Happiness.
Subjective Experience & Perspective is yours to own (& ours to recognise) & does not belong to philosophy.
puckerman
Ostrich
My initial reaction to this article was hatred. Now I just feel pity and sadness. What happens to these people that makes them turn out like this?
My pussified first cousin perhaps provides a good example. He was born in 1957, a time when boys were still expected to be boys. His father was a factory worker and worked with his hands a lot--doing maintenance work on the house, expanding the porch, etc. One of his grandfathers was a plant manager and also a really smart guy. His other grandfather (also mine) was a man who cut the grass with a push mower on a steep hillside until he died at 79. He was also building stuff, working with his hands and in a garden. He also worked at a glass factory. His role models were pretty manly.
His mother (my aunt) had a daughter who died at the age of four. No doubt, this impacted her. she wouldn't let my cousin do anything when he was growing up. She was the classic case of a helicopter parent, long before the term was fashionable. He got into nerdy stuff at a time when nerds were despised. He was a Trekker when everyone thought they were crazy. He never developed the confidence that comes from taking risks, climbing trees, playing sports, or anything similar to that. He was never encouraged to grow up.
I suspect a lot of these people grow up with over-bearing, over-protective mothers. I don't think the situation will get any better in America anytime soon. I fear it will get worse.
My pussified first cousin perhaps provides a good example. He was born in 1957, a time when boys were still expected to be boys. His father was a factory worker and worked with his hands a lot--doing maintenance work on the house, expanding the porch, etc. One of his grandfathers was a plant manager and also a really smart guy. His other grandfather (also mine) was a man who cut the grass with a push mower on a steep hillside until he died at 79. He was also building stuff, working with his hands and in a garden. He also worked at a glass factory. His role models were pretty manly.
His mother (my aunt) had a daughter who died at the age of four. No doubt, this impacted her. she wouldn't let my cousin do anything when he was growing up. She was the classic case of a helicopter parent, long before the term was fashionable. He got into nerdy stuff at a time when nerds were despised. He was a Trekker when everyone thought they were crazy. He never developed the confidence that comes from taking risks, climbing trees, playing sports, or anything similar to that. He was never encouraged to grow up.
I suspect a lot of these people grow up with over-bearing, over-protective mothers. I don't think the situation will get any better in America anytime soon. I fear it will get worse.