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[LeBeau]

On the topic of Amateur boxing, and Montreal, this is a really stylish short documentary made in 1961 about 3 guys training for the Golden Gloves Championship:

http://www.nfb.ca/film/golden_gloves (can't embed, video plays on the page)


Hard to explain, but it feels very raw and authentic, seeing the older men kicking it at the restaurant and the young guys getting in their road work at a rail yard.


I grew up watching docs and short flicks from the National Film Board of Canada, really inspirational.

 

[thegmanifesto]

Not sure if it was mentioned here yet, but 30 for 30 on ESPN has a good docu on Leonard VS Duran.

It is made pretty much 100% from Leonards perspective but good none the less.

 

[Giovonny]

That is where Jean Talon Market is. (One of the greatest farmers markets in North America, Gio, take note).

Noted.

I would love to game at that farmers market!

I do okay with Canadian girls because I bring the Latin Flair that is exotic to them, if I can control myself and convince them that I am sane!

*****

Whats the best fight that you guys have been to?

I was at Tyson-McNeely, Mike's first fight out of prison.

Also, that same day, in the morning, Terry Norris fought in a world championship fight at the MGM. It was free, first come, first served. I got there early and sat front row. Amazing!

Then, they kicked everybody out of the MGM arena to set up for the Tyson fight. I came back that night and it was like Hollywood, hundreds of celebrities were everywhere.

I went to the bathroom to take a piss and at the 4 urinals were me, Don Cornelius, Patrick Ewing and ???. I forgot the last guy. Maybe, Charles Oakley or Robert Horry?

I saw dozens of NFL/NBA players. I saw Biggie, T-Boz, and dozens of other celebs. I sat behind the rap group "Salt N Pepper". Their DJ "Spinderella" was eye balling me all night. I was wearing a clean, white suit. I tell the story HERE.

The place was packed with gangsters, hustlers,and pimps from all over the country. It was really a spectacle that night.

I also went to De La Hoya-Chavez. Similar situation but more Latino then Black. Lots of rich Mexicans.

I've also seen Iran Barkley and "Irish" Pat Lawlor.

I want to see Bernard up close. He usually runs at the UNLV track in the mornings when he fight in Vegas.

 

[la_mode]

McNeely was actually a good fighter, just not on the level of Tyson.

I'm getting a little tired of the welter/feather/junior middleweight crowd. I still remember watching a press conference when Don King referred to Lennox Lewis as "Lewis Lennox". Those were the days.

 

[thegmanifesto]

Gennady Golovkin is real legit.

 

[Merenguero]

Gennady Golovkin is real legit.

I was actually surprised that Stevens lasted that long last night. That was only the third time in his career that Golovkin went eight rounds. If Golovkin fights Sergio Martinez next September, which is a big if, put it all on Golovkin. I can't see Martinez beating him and being that many pound for pound lists have Martinez listed as number 3 or 4, Martinez may even be the favorite, or at worse, a very slight underdog. I've watched as many videos of both Golovkin and Martinez's past fights as possible. Golovkin takes him and everyone else at 160.

 

[Giovonny]

What about "Irish" Mike Perez!

Great nickname for a Black, Cuban fighter!!!

He can fight! Those Cubans are so well schooled! That guy Rigondeaux is best boxer I've seen all year, except for Floyd and honestly he is right up their with Floyd in terms of fundamentals, talent and instincts.

Golovin looked great. What fundamentals. He fights old school. Great footwork + great jab! He showed the power of a real jab! Everyones wants to get off their power shots but a good old fashioned stiff jab is a boxers best friend. Also, he has great technique on all his punches. Really generates power and torque. And, textbook footwork. He is a great example of how to box.

Martinez vs Golovin will be a good one. Who wants it more? Who is the better athlete? Who is tougher? Whose heart will prevail? Tough to say. I'm rooting for the old guy because I am the same age as Martinez.

What about the guy who fought with the broken face???

People have no idea how tough these men are. These guys are the toughest people on the planet.

That stuff would kill and average human being.

 

[Belize King]

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/nov-9-hbo-tripleheader-lands-in-corpus-christi-texas-226545

The Lone Star State will play host to an exciting Top Rank tripleheader featuring two world championship fights and a grudge rematch between former world champions that’s been building for over six years. Two-time World Boxing Organization (WBO) junior lightweight champion Roman “Rocky” Martinez, undefeated former WBO featherweight champion Mikey Garcia, 2012 Fighter of the Year Nonito “Filipino Flash” Donaire and former two-division world champion Vic “Raging Bull” Darchinyan will host a news conference announcing their November 9 world championship extravaganza at the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, Texas. Also featured is a clash of undefeated former U.S. Olympians — Vanes “The Nightmare” Martirosyan and Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade — world-rated #1 and #2, respectively, battling for the vacant WBO junior middleweight title. All three fights will be televised live on HBO.

Great card in my home town. Nobody to roll with. Probably get the floor and suit up. Question is, do I take pussy or roll solo and hit a bar or club suited up. Corpus is hot right now. Temps slowly dipping but you rarely see suits. I can peacock to the fullest and maybe pull. I havent pulled in a bar for a while. Most of my game here in Corpus has been online.

As far as the fight, I'll check the lines this week. Review some fights and places some bets. I am crunk as hell for this weekend. Ill take some photos for the thread.

 

[LeBeau]

 

[Merenguero]

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/nov-9-hbo-tripleheader-lands-in-corpus-christi-texas-226545

The Lone Star State will play host to an exciting Top Rank tripleheader featuring two world championship fights and a grudge rematch between former world champions that’s been building for over six years. Two-time World Boxing Organization (WBO) junior lightweight champion Roman “Rocky” Martinez, undefeated former WBO featherweight champion Mikey Garcia, 2012 Fighter of the Year Nonito “Filipino Flash” Donaire and former two-division world champion Vic “Raging Bull” Darchinyan will host a news conference announcing their November 9 world championship extravaganza at the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, Texas. Also featured is a clash of undefeated former U.S. Olympians — Vanes “The Nightmare” Martirosyan and Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade — world-rated #1 and #2, respectively, battling for the vacant WBO junior middleweight title. All three fights will be televised live on HBO.

Great card in my home town. Nobody to roll with. Probably get the floor ajnd suit up. Question is, do I take pussy or roll solo and hit a bar or club suited up. Corpus is hot right now. Temps slowly dipping but you rarely see suits. I can peacock to the fullest and maybe pull. I havent pulled in a bar for a while. Most of my game here in Corpus has been online.

As far as the fight, I'll check the lines this week. Review some fights and places some bets. I am crunk as hell for this weekend. Ill take some photos for the thread.

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it. Like it or not, the future of the sport is Mikey Garcia and Gennady Golovkin, not Alvarez, although Alvarez has a future.

 

[thegmanifesto]

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it. Like it or not, the future of the sport is Mikey Garcia and Gennady Golovkin, not Alvarez, although Alvarez has a future.

What about Broner?

 

[Merenguero]

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it. Like it or not, the future of the sport is Mikey Garcia and Gennady Golovkin, not Alvarez, although Alvarez has a future.

What about Broner?

If he doesn't lose against Marcos Maidana (I'm really not sure about that fight because of Maidana's defensive problems), he will lose fairly soon after the Maidana fight. As I stated before, Broner argueably lost to Daniel Ponce De Leon and got exposed against Paulie Malignaggi. Broner is not a great defensive boxer and his power is questionable at 147. Put him in with Danny Garcia or Matthysse, and he will very likely lose.

 

[Teedub]

Froch v Groves is a fight hotting up in the UK. Froch is the massive favorite, but Groves is a very efficient counter-puncher who works very well on the back foot - something Froch struggles against. Could be a great fight.

Regarding Broner, I dislike his personality. It may be a false one for the cameras, but nevertheless... He gets hit way too much to be Mayweather's heir.

GGG beats every other champion in his division, I am intrigued and excited as to whether he carries the power up to Super-Middle. If he does, then he poses huge problems to everyone in that weight class. He's my favorite fighter to watch at the moment, he has everything: Excitement, Technique and... 'Likeability'. He's absolutely awesome. One of the best Middleweights in history already IMO. I mean, Macklin said he was streets ahead of Martinez, and he's been in with both, so his judgement is good evidence.

 

[thegmanifesto]

GGG beats every other champion in his division, I am intrigued and excited as to whether he carries the power up to Super-Middle. If he does, then he poses huge problems to everyone in that weight class. He's my favorite fighter to watch at the moment, he has everything: Excitement, Technique and... 'Likeability'. He's absolutely awesome. One of the best Middleweights in history already IMO.

Come on.

I am impressed with Golovkin too, but let's ratchet it back a little.

He isn't in the same universe of any "best in history" lists at this stage.

 

[Belize King]

Andrade took it in a split decision. He isnt ready for any top level talent yet.

Filipino Flash looks timid as hell. He might have taken one out of the first six rounds. I think his opponent is a smaller fighter. Not used to seeing Donaire like this. It's sad.

Edit: Donaire pulled a brutal knockout out of his ass. Cool. Hopefully he can hit a little roll. Still looked bad tonight though. I guess he was waiting for his shot.

 

[Merenguero]

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/nov-9-hbo-tripleheader-lands-in-corpus-christi-texas-226545

The Lone Star State will play host to an exciting Top Rank tripleheader featuring two world championship fights and a grudge rematch between former world champions that’s been building for over six years. Two-time World Boxing Organization (WBO) junior lightweight champion Roman “Rocky” Martinez, undefeated former WBO featherweight champion Mikey Garcia, 2012 Fighter of the Year Nonito “Filipino Flash” Donaire and former two-division world champion Vic “Raging Bull” Darchinyan will host a news conference announcing their November 9 world championship extravaganza at the American Bank Center in Corpus Christi, Texas. Also featured is a clash of undefeated former U.S. Olympians — Vanes “The Nightmare” Martirosyan and Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade — world-rated #1 and #2, respectively, battling for the vacant WBO junior middleweight title. All three fights will be televised live on HBO.

Great card in my home town. Nobody to roll with. Probably get the floor ajnd suit up. Question is, do I take pussy or roll solo and hit a bar or club suited up. Corpus is hot right now. Temps slowly dipping but you rarely see suits. I can peacock to the fullest and maybe pull. I havent pulled in a bar for a while. Most of my game here in Corpus has been online.

As far as the fight, I'll check the lines this week. Review some fights and places some bets. I am crunk as hell for this weekend. Ill take some photos for the thread.

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it.

I was off by two rounds. Garcia needs to work on whatever caused him to get knocked down in the second round. Mayweather (at the defensive level that he is today. He has gotten better) and possibly some other guys would never have allowed that to happen to them.

 

[Teedub]

GGG beats every other champion in his division, I am intrigued and excited as to whether he carries the power up to Super-Middle. If he does, then he poses huge problems to everyone in that weight class. He's my favorite fighter to watch at the moment, he has everything: Excitement, Technique and... 'Likeability'. He's absolutely awesome. One of the best Middleweights in history already IMO.

Come on.

I am impressed with Golovkin too, but let's ratchet it back a little.

He isn't in the same universe of any "best in history" lists at this stage.

Yeah I'd had a few beers when I wrote that.

BUT, I don't doubt that if he continues in his current vein then he'll definitely be up there.

 

[thegmanifesto]

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it. Like it or not, the future of the sport is Mikey Garcia and Gennady Golovkin, not Alvarez, although Alvarez has a future.

What about Broner?

If he doesn't lose against Marcos Maidana (I'm really not sure about that fight because of Maidana's defensive problems), he will lose fairly soon after the Maidana fight. As I stated before, Broner argueably lost to Daniel Ponce De Leon and got exposed against Paulie Malignaggi. Broner is not a great defensive boxer and his power is questionable at 147. Put him in with Danny Garcia or Matthysse, and he will very likely lose.

Brandon Rios?

 

[Merenguero]

Garcia in 6. I wish I could bet on it. Like it or not, the future of the sport is Mikey Garcia and Gennady Golovkin, not Alvarez, although Alvarez has a future.

What about Broner?

If he doesn't lose against Marcos Maidana (I'm really not sure about that fight because of Maidana's defensive problems), he will lose fairly soon after the Maidana fight. As I stated before, Broner argueably lost to Daniel Ponce De Leon and got exposed against Paulie Malignaggi. Broner is not a great defensive boxer and his power is questionable at 147. Put him in with Danny Garcia or Matthysse, and he will very likely lose.

Brandon Rios?

Brandon Rios will likely lose to Pacquiao. In my opinion, Rios is a second-rate fighter who lost to Mike Alvarado, who is also not an elite fighter. That being said, I think Rios would have a chance against Broner, although I would not bet on either of them should they fight. As things presently are, there is zero chance that Rios would fight Broner, because Rios is promoted by Top Rank and Broner is promoted by Golden Boy. Some of the guys who would have a good chance at beating Broner are Mayweather (obviously), Danny Garcia, Matthysse, Keith Thurman, Pacquiao, Devon Alexander, Robert Guerrero, and Maidana (as I said before, I'm not sure about that fight, but Maidana has a chance). I'm sure there are some other guys, but those are the ones who I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[speakeasy]

Was just watching this documentary on Don King last night. As much of a scumbag as he is, that dude is a super-Alpha. If he were born Sicilian he would be a mob moss. He's a testament though that if you are smart and know how to hustle and game the system, you can do damn near anything. His networth is over $300 million. Though the guy deserves to be in prison.