Enigma said:
How many actual Southerners do we have in here?
Lynching was widespread until less than 50 years ago. When you or your parent's generation was being terrorized and murdered for the color of your skin, it is not something you take as a "joke".
And neither do these boys singing the song. They understand exactly how hateful and derogatory it is.
If you're a major university in the South, this is simply something you can not be seen condoning. These issues are still very fresh in people's minds and surrounded with a large amount of tension.
If you want to see a real double standard, read people's posts about Muslims attacking people because of their religion and then watch them take the exact opposite stance about white people attacking others for their race.
"But they aren't actually racist" ignoring the fact that these boys' parents didn't even attend the same schools as blacks. Yeah, there's absolutely no chance that they actually harbor any animosity towards blacks, it's all an aberration created by the media :tard:
Enigma said:
TheWastelander said:
Oklahoma isn't in the South, but point taken.
Geographically, no. Culturally, yes.
Just look at the Tulsa Race Riot.
Whelp, I was trying not to post in this thread.
But here it is. The middle school that I went to in the South used to be the high school when my dad went to the same school. It was rebuilt after the KKK blew it up. They did this because we were, technically I believe (I don't want to give too much info here). either the first or the second school to be desegregated before even Little Rock. They had to call in the National guard to force the desegregation.
I have seen my dads picture in the small town, with many of the same building still there and a few diners and RX places still in business, with jeeps with guards manning .50 Cal machine guns and soldiers with bayonets fixed to their M14s.
There is still some racism. You will occasionally see stars and bars but unless the guy rocking them is wearing an Outlaw jacket or some other 1%er patch the likelihood of him saying anything to a non-white person in any manner is incredibly unlikely. Even more unlikely for him to actually do something, but I have seen it before and in those couple of cases the white dude was more likely to walk away fucked up.
I have also seen some people, mostly frat guys, get drunk at college and think it was cool to say racist shit or repeat Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock jokes ad nauseam. These were usually incredibly sheltered idiots who are about the least likely to ever start a fight or say something racial to some ones face.
Personally, that is what I see here. But, I am also not on the receiving end of it and it is quite possible that I am just not that attuned to it. While I have had a lot of non-white friends here in the states and over seas growing up, I have also been the subject of racism, or at least hate, as a white guy. Got my ass kicked, and almost kicked even more times, by members of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt in middle and high school.
Also, at least around here, I haven't been to OK before, there are a lot of problems that effect white people that are generally caused by blacks. Also probably vice versa, but there are not many blacks in some of these areas but a large portion of them do engage in stereotypical behavior. Most of the time this is just blasting music loudly or something that doesn't matter. But other times, and I have worked with a few of these types and been friends with them, it does. An example would be of several old friends of mine. They like to hang out on "the hill" (basically the poorer black suburbs or ghetto, around here projects and other descriptors all pretty much describe poor whites) and sell crack.
They didn't smoke it. Instead they bragged about intentionally selling it to white girls to get them addicted so they could pimp them out or gangbang them for drugs as payment. I doubt the older church going ladies know about this, but plenty of younger guys and working class guys (a surprising number of construction workers don't just use meth but also supplement with crack) know about it and if you are a small town of about 15k people with about 4% black (seriously, I think we have more Asian and latinos) then that is going to influence some of the more white trash elements. Some of those elements may also be middle class white guys.
Not saying any of it is right. I am rambling a bit here, so I do apologize. I actually started this post to give a bit of my own observations about the south. So, here is a bit of history.
I didn't actually know much about the desegregation of my middle school, again which was my dads high school, until I took a racial history class in college. It was an interesting class, also kinda boring being mixed up with all the SJW crap.
I had a final project to write and I went and researched the desegregation. I went to the local newspaper, that existed then and still does, and they were more than happy to let me go through their microfilm and these huge books that had a copy of every paper they every published going way back.
It was really interesting to read through all the documents written at the time. One thing that really impressed me was how thorough and detailed and basically on point the newspapers were back then compared to today.
Another thing that blew my mind was that all the black people who were local were pretty much against integration. They wanted more money and better resources for their school. I remember one black preacher who said he feared integration because he thought it would lower the moral fabric of the black community. He suggested better and newer books and offered a compromise where the civil rights oriented teachers could come and teach at the black school a few days out of the week. He especially wanted the science teachers to teach. I thought that was interesting, because it kept with the spirit of integration while keeping the children safe from bullying and harm.
Now, here is where I found it really interesting. There were several individuals who were leading the KKK and they were all from out of state. The leader was from New Jersey. It was found out during his trial that a large part of the KKK soldiers were also from out of state. This really pissed off a lot of the whites who were on the fence. They didn't like northerners coming down to stir up racial animus.
Do you guys want to know what this leader was tried for, among many things, more than twice? He was brought up on charges of SEDITION. I found that really amusing. Each time the jury was going to convict his KKK soldiers would bomb or burn something and scare a few of the white jury members into voting no. That is how he got off both times. If I remember correctly, after the second trial they passed some laws that mentioned him by name and made it illegal for him to come back to the state. They basically figured out some way to deport his ass.
Well, I have posted enough in this thread so I will bow out before ending up on the wrong side of Tuth's hammer. I just wanted to share that last part mainly. For the record, I am not condoning these guys actions.
I know I am a bit racist and I could see myself, especially in my younger days, laughing about this and being coaxed into chanting along. I also don't have much love for frats. From the little bit of the video I watched these sounds like the types of assholes who go bar hopping and end up annoying the fuck out of everyone when they show up for their two natty lites on their way to the next bar. I guess I will just say the following. Some of the best guys I have met have been black. Some of the worst ones too. Just cause a few dumbasses from the south do something stupid, doesn't mean that we all think the same way or do the same thing.
