Older Woman (50+) Angry That She's Invisible To Men

[Suits]

I looked into this woman's writings a bit and found what I expected: she is childless. Once a woman hits 35 and has no children she begins to go slowly and progressively insane.

They drive themselves insane.

It's like a kid without any money in a candy store. Being forced to watch (seemingly) everyone else enjoy what she can never have slowly wears on their soul.

A man without kids who has focused on other goals may grow increasingly relevant as he passes 35. A woman who doesn't have the "mother merit badge" by 35, is on the verge of being completely irrelevant. Besides her career, which quickly begins to feel meaningless with her hyper-focus on what she does not have (mother status), she's basically no good to anyone and therefore deprived of the one thing women can not live without:

ATTENTION.



If a woman plays her cards right, she can get attention between 15-28 just based on sex appeal alone.

She can get a hell of a lot of attention from 26-29ish (over a 9 month period) just by planning an executing an expensive wedding (that someone else is going to foot the bill for.

She can continue to get attention from 24-34 by popping out a few kids. Each comes with baby showers and years of attention until they leave the cute stage.

Put up with a few years of drama as they go through their teenage years, enjoy the satisfaction of watching them mature into function members of society (if you did your job as a parent correctly) and then (if you raised them to have the right values), enjoy all the attention that comes with being a grandmother...with literally none of the work of being a mother.

My mother has gone through all these stages and you can see how fulfilled she is.

A woman who reaches 35-39 unmarried and childless may have enjoyed the attention that comes with sexual viability from 15-28, but she's literally missing out on 70% of the attention that a woman can potentially enjoy in her lifetime.

 

[AnonymousBosch]

^ Turn that into an article, Suits.

 

[Days of Broken Arrows]

I looked into this woman's writings a bit and found what I expected: she is childless. Once a woman hits 35 and has no children she begins to go slowly and progressively insane.

(SNIP)

I want to amplify this. I'm in this woman's age bracket. Everything Mr. XY just said about childless women being insane is true, but please notch that up to the highest volume. No matter how wacky the twenty-something women you know are, older ones are worse.

As with most women, she looks toward others, not herself, to place blame. That "divorced dad" that canceled on her for New Year's Eve? She thinks he has commitment issues. Any man would see that as a lame excuse to duck out of a date. How can she not see it?

Here is what is really going on: this woman looks good in pictures but is so batshit insane that men can't stand to be with her. I know all you younger guys are thinking "Well, why not just go for the bang?" but I have been there and dealt with behavior so over the top that I think "I wouldn't put up with this from a 24-year-old -- I won't deal with it with a 45-year-old."

How insane? This my list of older woman insanity. Read it and weep:

* Constant "emergency" phone calls around the clock (with angry messages if you don't pick up).
* Two-hour long cry-fests having to listen to stories about her sordid past and bad choices.
* Endless (jealous) complains about every friend she had who married and had kids.
* Family problems because she never established her own family and daddy is still Daddy.
* If she has a sister that has a baby, this will create as much emotional havoc for her as an amputation would for most people.
* Does not know how to hold a baby (a petty complaint, but telling regarding her femininity).
* Work problems because she considers her co-workers "family" but they have lives and don't consider her that.
* Late night trips to the 24-hour CVS drugstore to get her head meds.
* The fact that she's on that much medication.
* "Wait, did she just tell me her meds cost around $10K a year?!"
* History of abusive sex with bad boys -- and now you have to pay for it.
* Or a vow of celibacy because she can't emotionally handle sex anymore.
* Obsession with "spicy food" that makes her smell bad. Or is that the meds?
* Don't let her use your bathroom (see above).
* Gets off on constantly fighting with everyone, all the time.
* Does not understand for the life of her why people would hate her.
* Her attempts at "morality" are excuses to get people she doesn't like in trouble ("The salesgirl said a curse word in a meeting so I reported her and she got fired!!") and she doesn't get that this is drama queen bullshit, not being moral.
* Whines about never having kids, then explodes when you mention that she had the chance but aborted a kid when she was 32. (OK, so maybe I shouldn't have said anything. It slipped out.)
* Becomes "religious" when it's convenient, abortion notwithstanding.
* Asks for constructive criticism, then writes long, hateful emails "cutting you off" because she takes all criticism as insults.
* Spends money like an insane person -- then spends more on a counselor who tries to help her not spend money.
* No, I didn't just make that up. It really happened.
* Makes you read idiotic new-agey articles and insists you agree with their deeply flawed premises.
* Is into new age, "spirituality," and all sorts of crap like that.
* Never learned how to take care of herself physically so it's one medical emergency after another.
* Cannot emotionally understand that every meal out can't be a fucking five-star restaurant and even if you have lots of money, sometimes you just want a basic fucking Subway veggie and cheese sub.
* That's important because she can't cook.
* Which causes her to binge eat bad food.
* Which causes weight fluctuation.
* Which causes her to over-exercise.
* Which causes backaches, pulled muscles, and all the things that send her back to the doctor (see above).
* You guys tired yet?
* I am.
* Relax -- this is a cakewalk compared to dealing with women like this.

No set of well-preserved tits or nice legs is worth all that. But the pics look good, so she gets dates. And then the hapless men sit there thinking "Go for the bang? How about I go for the door?"

 

[Brazilianguy]

It´s seeing things like this that eradicates any doubt that cultural marxism must be fought mercilessly.

Feminism, being just one of its branches has done so much damage to society and has poisoned the relationship between the sexes to such an extent that it killed traditional family, meaning individual freedom may not exist a few decades from now.

What must happen now is women waking up en masse and begin deprogramming from feminist values, but from what I´ve seen they´re too greedy and shortsighted for that.
I also think that they´re too weak for self analysis.

 

[Sp5]

At 58, I would probably have a short relationship with her, but keep her at arm's length.

I would refuse to inconvenience myself one moment for her, but be sweet when I was with her.

She would respond by alternating sweetness, anger, and melancholy. I would laugh at the anger and ignore the melancholy. She would step up attempts to lock me in, but know that ultimatums would not work, so she'd be confused. Eventually, I would fade out on her.

 

[IvanDrago]

All of you younger guys, please print out Days of Broken Arrow's post #63 and hang on your headboard. He described a post-35 year old woman on the hunt down to the last detail. There is a lot of talk around here about the crazy and destructive shit young women and single mothers do but there is rarely a mention about attractive, never married, childless women around the age of 40 looking to "settle down". From my experience, these women are WITHOUT A DOUBT the most dangerous people I have ever met.

I knew at a young age I was not going to pay full price for a carousel rider or become beta bucks and get barked at by an ex-rider, but I had a stupid fantasy in my head thinking I was going to find a great woman my age when I approached my mid 30's. My thought process was "Hey, by then some of these women will get their shit together, save up some cash and stop acting like a 13 year old." I was incorrect, all you get are more demands, more drama, more financial ruin! If you think women your age are off their rockers, just wait until you interact with single women your age 10 years from now. Jesus Titty Fucking Christ you guys are in for a treat.

My experience with women after age 30 is why I keep myself in shape so I can pull 20 something women. I only associate with older women while at work and family events. I am polite and friendly to them but I will not be in a relationship with them, let alone marry one. I have ZERO regrets about going this route seeing the mess most of my friends and family my age are in. I just laugh about it anymore any play with my toys.

If you ever see an attractive, childless, single woman around 40 in a club, be careful and watch your back my friend!!! If she isn't a widower, there is a reason she is single and childless!!! She may come across as the unicorn you have been looking for but that is because she has decades of practice at deceit and manipulation. If you do decide to do something stupid... triple wrap it, pull out, crop dust the neighborhood with spermicide, burn the rubbers and scatter the ashes half way across the globe!

Protect yourselves guys!

 

[samsamsam]

If you do decide to do something stupid... triple wrap it, pull out, crop dust the neighborhood with spermicide, burn the rubbers and scatter the ashes half way across the globe!

Protect yourselves guys!

Classic. 100% agree!

 

[AnonymousBosch]

I want to amplify this. I'm in this woman's age bracket. Everything Mr. XY just said about childless women being insane is true, but please notch that up to the highest volume. No matter how wacky the twenty-something women you know are, older ones are worse.

otd:

I maintain my fitness to still be able to bang women in their 20's because of just how toxic and destructive single, childless women my age are to everyone in their immediate vicinity.

They contain no trace of their former beauty, and their souls are barely-contained raging balls of bitterness ready to be unleashed on anyone who crosses their path, be it man, woman or child.

On Halloween night, one of the mothers who came to the door thanked me for making it fun for their kids. Apparently the spinster two doors down, rather than putting up the sign up the mothers in the neighbourhood print out and leave in the mailboxes to use if you don't want kids disturbing you, had let the children come up to her door, then lectured them that Halloween was 'a manufactured holiday; processed sugar 'will rot their brain'; and that 'little girls shouldn't be dressing up as vampires' before slamming the door in their faces.

The woman's five-year-old butted in, with "And I'm actually a Bat." When a kid that age is rolling their eyes over how idiotic they think a Spinster is, you can see why they were always held in contempt in society. No wonder Witches in folklore were always childless and wanted to steal babies.

That being said, given how fucked up Millennial Girls are now, it's going to be a horror show in 20 years. I'm expecting a widespread suicide epidemic.

 

[Quintus Curtius]

At all stages of their lives, women need a firm hand of guidance. This truism has been known for thousands of years, but its truth has been lost (or deliberately suppressed in the past 40 years in the Anglosphere).

When young, women need to be channeled and banked on all sides by society, clan, family, and rules so that their monopoly of the reproductive process does not lead them to become tyrants. Besides this, their hormonal levels are high enough to cause their critical faculties to become impaired in moments of stress or duress.

When old, they need the socially healthy influence of extended family (children, grandchildren, etc) to reinforce their feelings of worth. Without this calming influence, they become capable of malicious calculations, devious maneuverings, and general mischief. Old women lack a sense of honor in general; the only thing keeping them in line is their perceived duties to their extended offspring (note I did not say husband).

If this sounds callous or cruel, remember that this is the same view that every traditional society has taken on the matter. Who are we to contradict them? Can we be so arrogant as to think that our 40 years on this earth is enough to pass judgment on the collective wisdom of centuries?

No.

.

 

[Sturmgeist]

I looked into this woman's writings a bit and found what I expected: she is childless. Once a woman hits 35 and has no children she begins to go slowly and progressively insane.

They drive themselves insane.

It's like a kid without any money in a candy store. Being forced to watch (seemingly) everyone else enjoy what she can never have slowly wears on their soul.

A man without kids who has focused on other goals may grow increasingly relevant as he passes 35. A woman who doesn't have the "mother merit badge" by 35, is on the verge of being completely irrelevant. Besides her career, which quickly begins to feel meaningless with her hyper-focus on what she does not have (mother status), she's basically no good to anyone and therefore deprived of the one thing women can not live without:

ATTENTION.



If a woman plays her cards right, she can get attention between 15-28 just based on sex appeal alone.

She can get a hell of a lot of attention from 26-29ish (over a 9 month period) just by planning an executing an expensive wedding (that someone else is going to foot the bill for.

She can continue to get attention from 24-34 by popping out a few kids. Each comes with baby showers and years of attention until they leave the cute stage.

Put up with a few years of drama as they go through their teenage years, enjoy the satisfaction of watching them mature into function members of society (if you did your job as a parent correctly) and then (if you raised them to have the right values), enjoy all the attention that comes with being a grandmother...with literally none of the work of being a mother.

My mother has gone through all these stages and you can see how fulfilled she is.

A woman who reaches 35-39 unmarried and childless may have enjoyed the attention that comes with sexual viability from 15-28, but she's literally missing out on 70% of the attention that a woman can potentially enjoy in her lifetime.

Article worthy.

 

[CrackerDaddy]

....And then the hapless men sit there thinking "Go for the bang? How about I go for the door?"

THIS!

 

[Jack198]

She is very attractive for her age. I bet she gets plenty of interests from men around her age.

She is just upset 'that special guy' she wants, is not either interested in her or won't settle with her.
If she is willing to bend over somewhat, she should be happily married just like her 'normal' friends.

Remind me of a conversation with 44 year old lady. She said she gets RIDICULOUS amount of emails from match.
It was a lot of Work juggling several guys at a time for her. She told me she was upset because of those guys wanted just to sleep with her and she felt used. I am sure there are guys who would get into relationship with her but she is not interested in those.

I say women are like Flowers. Some are cheap and some are high priced.
This special rose is priced at $10 each and no one is buying. Is it wise to lower the price a bit to get rid of it or insist on charging the same amount and let it rot?
After all, it's her choice how to price herself. 'I rather live alone and keep high standards'. I totally respect that.
But I don't want to hear why the market is not Paying Attention to her.

'You don't fight with the market'

Mike Rowe laid this out within a reply to a letter he got from a fan.

I had drinks last night with a woman I know. Let’s call her Claire. Claire just turned 42. She’s cute, smart, and successful. She’s frustrated though, because she can’t find a man. I listened all evening about how difficult her search has been. About how all the “good ones” were taken. About how her other friends had found their soul-mates, and how it wasn’t fair that she had not.

“Look at me,” she said. “I take care of myself. I’ve put myself out there. Why is this so hard?”

“How about that guy at the end of the bar,” I said. “He keeps looking at you.”
“Not my type.”

“Really? How do you know?”
“I just know.”

“Have you tried a dating site?” I asked.”
“Are you kidding? I would never date someone I met online!”

“Alright. How about a change of scene? Your company has offices all over – maybe try living in another city?”
“What? Leave San Francisco? Never!”

“How about the other side of town? You know, mix it up a little. Visit different places. New museums, new bars, new theaters…?”

She looked at me like I had two heads. “Why the hell would I do that?”

Here’s the thing, Parker. Claire doesn’t really want a man. She wants the “right” man. She wants a soul-mate. Specifically, a soul-mate from her zip code. She assembled this guy in her mind years ago, and now, dammit, she’s tired of waiting!!

I didn’t tell her this, because Claire has the capacity for sudden violence. But it’s true. She complains about being alone, even though her rules have more or less guaranteed she’ll stay that way. She has built a wall between herself and her goal. A wall made of conditions and expectations. Is it possible that you’ve built a similar wall?

-----

Now the woman may not even be real, but the situation he describes most definitely is, particularly in the Western world. Whether it is Wall St., the dating scene, or any other aspect of life, the market is always right. Ignore this fact at your peril, ladies.

 

[Jack198]

I looked into this woman's writings a bit and found what I expected: she is childless. Once a woman hits 35 and has no children she begins to go slowly and progressively insane.

(SNIP)

* Whines about never having kids, then explodes when you mention that she had the chance but aborted a kid when she was 32. (OK, so maybe I shouldn't have said anything. It slipped out.)

Wait, she got mad at YOU for her aborting her own damn baby? I'd be thinking "Ok, so what - that was your last egg? You had plenty of years to make up for it."

I'd rather beat off till I drop dead than spend a minute of my life with someone like that.

 

[CRR]

Mike Rowe laid this out within a reply to a letter he got from a fan.

I had drinks last night with a woman I know. Let’s call her Claire. Claire just turned 42. She’s cute, smart, and successful. She’s frustrated though, because she can’t find a man. I listened all evening about how difficult her search has been. About how all the “good ones” were taken. About how her other friends had found their soul-mates, and how it wasn’t fair that she had not.

“Look at me,” she said. “I take care of myself. I’ve put myself out there. Why is this so hard?”

...

Here’s the thing, Parker. Claire doesn’t really want a man. She wants the “right” man. She wants a soul-mate. Specifically, a soul-mate from her zip code. She assembled this guy in her mind years ago, and now, dammit, she’s tired of waiting!!

I didn’t tell her this, because Claire has the capacity for sudden violence. But it’s true. She complains about being alone, even though her rules have more or less guaranteed she’ll stay that way. She has built a wall between herself and her goal. A wall made of conditions and expectations. Is it possible that you’ve built a similar wall?

-----

Now the woman may not even be real, but the situation he describes most definitely is, particularly in the Western world. Whether it is Wall St., the dating scene, or any other aspect of life, the market is always right. Ignore this fact at your peril, ladies.

It is strong advice and I like Mike Rowe, but he left out telling her the important part.

She's 4fucking2 years old!!!

Most of the guys I know (friends, coworkers) in her age range are married. I have a friend who is 42 who sounds like her type. He's tall, successful, great guy. But unfortunately for this woman, he's busy banging hot women in their mid-20s. He wouldn't look twice at a woman like this, and doesn't have to.

She's kinda right about one thing. Most of the good ones are taken. The rest of the good ones are busy with women much younger than her. She can accept this and hope to date older men who don't want to have kids (or at least anymore) or she can join the author in cursing the world for not bending to her will.

Also "a capacity for sudden violence"? Wow, she sounds like a real catch.

 

[spokepoker]

I looked into this woman's writings a bit and found what I expected: she is childless. Once a woman hits 35 and has no children she begins to go slowly and progressively insane.

(SNIP)

* Whines about never having kids, then explodes when you mention that she had the chance but aborted a kid when she was 32. (OK, so maybe I shouldn't have said anything. It slipped out.)

Wait, she got mad at YOU for her aborting her own damn baby? I'd be thinking "Ok, so what - that was your last egg? You had plenty of years to make up for it."

I'd rather beat off till I drop dead than spend a minute of my life with someone like that.

It's more about her hating hindsight and having it pointed out to her, than it is about her hating him for her abortion.
Women don't like it when their mistakes are thrown in their face, it's enough they live with it every day, they just don't like it being said recognized.
They won't admit to anything being their own fault.

 

[MrLemon]

I want to amplify this. I'm in this woman's age bracket. Everything Mr. XY just said about childless women being insane is true, but please notch that up to the highest volume. No matter how wacky the twenty-something women you know are, older ones are worse.

otd:

I maintain my fitness to still be able to bang women in their 20's because of just how toxic and destructive single, childless women my age are to everyone in their immediate vicinity.

They contain no trace of their former beauty, and their souls are barely-contained raging balls of bitterness ready to be unleashed on anyone who crosses their path, be it man, woman or child.

On Halloween night, one of the mothers who came to the door thanked me for making it fun for their kids. Apparently the spinster two doors down, rather than putting up the sign up the mothers in the neighbourhood print out and leave in the mailboxes to use if you don't want kids disturbing you, had let the children come up to her door, then lectured them that Halloween was 'a manufactured holiday; processed sugar 'will rot their brain'; and that 'little girls shouldn't be dressing up as vampires' before slamming the door in their faces.

The woman's five-year-old butted in, with "And I'm actually a Bat." When a kid that age is rolling their eyes over how idiotic they think a Spinster is, you can see why they were always held in contempt in society. No wonder Witches in folklore were always childless and wanted to steal babies.

That being said, given how fucked up Millennial Girls are now, it's going to be a horror show in 20 years. I'm expecting a widespread suicide epidemic.

No, it won't be a suicide epidemic. They will take it out on society. I'm telling you guys, these women are insane, yes, but they are also fucking dangerous.

Old useless men are discarded by society. They are sad and pathetic, but essentially harmless. Old useless women will grab and twist and fuck over everybody they can. They have no concept of "sacrifice". For them, their personal failure is their entire universe and they can and will drag the entire human race into it.

Women have massive social power based simply on the fact they are women. They historically ran society because married women with kids are the basis of society. Men existed simply to support and continue them.

For 100,000 years that was perfectly effective because very few women stayed single, they married and had kids. Now we live in an unprecedented time, because so many women are childless and marriage less, and thus insane, completely twisted, their primary purpose and motivation in life missing. Good or bad, right or wrong, that was their lodestone and without it they lose their marbles. There is nothing to replace it, no rudder for them to steer by, other than narcissism quickly degrading to hate.

And meanwhile our society still spends it's time catering to them, not because we've thought it through or made a decision, but because that's what society IS. Society is a system designed by men to cater to women and children.

What do you get when your entire society is catering to people who are fundamentally insane? Remember this society includes a military power capable of killing *anyone in the world* at the touch of a button, or killing *and entire continent* with the launch of a few missiles.

This has the makings of a very strange old Star Trek episode. But we are living in it now.

 

[MrXY]

That GIF is crying out to have "SOON........." caption.

Can someone with GIF skills oblige?

 

[Ice]

I want to amplify this. I'm in this woman's age bracket. Everything Mr. XY just said about childless women being insane is true, but please notch that up to the highest volume. No matter how wacky the twenty-something women you know are, older ones are worse.

otd:

I maintain my fitness to still be able to bang women in their 20's because of just how toxic and destructive single, childless women my age are to everyone in their immediate vicinity.

They contain no trace of their former beauty, and their souls are barely-contained raging balls of bitterness ready to be unleashed on anyone who crosses their path, be it man, woman or child.

On Halloween night, one of the mothers who came to the door thanked me for making it fun for their kids. Apparently the spinster two doors down, rather than putting up the sign up the mothers in the neighbourhood print out and leave in the mailboxes to use if you don't want kids disturbing you, had let the children come up to her door, then lectured them that Halloween was 'a manufactured holiday; processed sugar 'will rot their brain'; and that 'little girls shouldn't be dressing up as vampires' before slamming the door in their faces.

The woman's five-year-old butted in, with "And I'm actually a Bat." When a kid that age is rolling their eyes over how idiotic they think a Spinster is, you can see why they were always held in contempt in society. No wonder Witches in folklore were always childless and wanted to steal babies.

That being said, given how fucked up Millennial Girls are now, it's going to be a horror show in 20 years. I'm expecting a widespread suicide epidemic.

No, it won't be a suicide epidemic. They will take it out on society. I'm telling you guys, these women are insane, yes, but they are also fucking dangerous.

Old useless men are discarded by society. They are sad and pathetic, but essentially harmless. Old useless women will grab and twist and fuck over everybody they can. They have no concept of "sacrifice". For them, their personal failure is their entire universe and they can and will drag the entire human race into it.

Women have massive social power based simply on the fact they are women. They historically ran society because married women with kids are the basis of society. Men existed simply to support and continue them.

For 100,000 years that was perfectly effective because very few women stayed single, they married and had kids. Now we live in an unprecedented time, because so many women are childless and marriage less, and thus insane, completely twisted, their primary purpose and motivation in life missing. Good or bad, right or wrong, that was their lodestone and without it they lose their marbles. There is nothing to replace it, no rudder for them to steer by, other than narcissism quickly degrading to hate.

And meanwhile our society still spends it's time catering to them, not because we've thought it through or made a decision, but because that's what society IS. Society is a system designed by men to cater to women and children.

What do you get when your entire society is catering to people who are fundamentally insane? Remember this society includes a military power capable of killing *anyone in the world* at the touch of a button, or killing *and entire continent* with the launch of a few missiles.

This has the makings of a very strange old Star Trek episode. But we are living in it now.

Cool post MrLemon.

What do you think is a likely future scenario for society in the West / US? How will society change when fewer and fewer women marry and have kids?

 

[spokepoker]

I think a lot of (insert third-world country) children will be adopted in the near future.

 

[Travesty]

Suits make that an article for RoK.

5 Reasons Childless Women Are Broken

It will piss off all women because it uncovers all women are attention whores, mothers just do it in the most constructive way possible.

That 70% missing out on attention is brilliant.

Should be a funny graph like the "NASA" guy did on how hot vs. how crazy a chick is determines how datable.