Online dating in 2007 vs now: what happened?

Coja Petrus Uscan

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Leaving voice messages like that and sending angry texts is serious sour grapes and actually reinforces the chick's opinion of herself (why else are you getting your panties in a bunch) and she can then go off - like here - and parade the messages to all her friends and even the media.

I've noted a lot of this. Girls saying things like,

"You neva gess wat. Some guy bloody wolf-whistled at me the other day. As if I'm a peas of meat. I know my wurth so I didn't even look at him!"

I've heard numerous times women saying things like this. Not because they care about X, but to boast to their friends that they are a sex object in demand.

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But the most relevant was with this is this girl. When she was 15 she made a positive comment on my appearance. So when she was 17 or 18 I made an advance, which was rebuffed due to me being too old. She then pretended she was doing me a favour by telling everyone,

"Hey look! Gework asked me out! But I turned him down! Maybe someone else is interested in him?"

She did this with the manner and tone as if she was the center of the universe. It was the proud announcement of a snotty brat. It did not cross her mind that humiliating someone to elevate your social status might not be well received. But her feeling of being at the center of the universe may have diminished when she turned to find I had left.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
I've noted a lot of this. Girls saying things like,

"You neva gess wat. Some guy bloody wolf-whistled at me the other day. As if I'm a peas of meat. I know my wurth so I didn't even look at him!"

I've heard numerous times women saying things like this. Not because they care about X, but to boast to their friends that they are a sex object in demand.

IMG_5159.jpg


But the most relevant was with this is this girl. When she was 15 she made a positive comment on my appearance. So when she was 17 or 18 I made an advance, which was rebuffed due to me being too old. She then pretended she was doing me a favour by telling everyone,

"Hey look! Gework asked me out! But I turned him down! Maybe someone else is interested in him?"

She did this with the manner and tone as if she was the center of the universe. It was the proud announcement of a snotty brat. It did not cross her mind that humiliating someone to elevate your social status might not be well received. But her feeling of being at the center of the universe may have diminished when she turned to find I had left.

I've noticed that aging beauties on FB talk a lot about their "stalkers" even though no one asked.
 

JohnQThomas

Woodpecker
Other Christian
Something relevant has popped up on The Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cGuirk-unmasked-vile-messages-got-sacked.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Tinder-creep-reveal-abused-rejected-him.html

A guy who I think could be said to be a chad - top 1% - has been publicly shamed and lost his job because he was 'harassing' women on Tinder:

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Here is one of the women who have accused him:

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Who I think would have fallen into the WNB category of most pre-July 2019 posters.

It's not the intention of the article, but gives you some insight into the situation.

He heavily negs women to the point an average guy would risk being reported to the police, but these women contend with him, trying to establish their value.

He also fornicated with this one:

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on their first meeting,at which she just turned up at her home. The bang was enough for her, she moved on. Chad not like.

This is the state of Tinder. Chad's chasing 5s land-whales-to-be and being passed up by 7s after an ONS. Pakistan recently banned it. Maybe the only thing that country is doing right.

Western fathers just allow their daughters to be on what most men hope will be is a sex vending machine; while their sons are turned into raging simps by a sea of rejection. I've never seen the MSM cover online dating from a perspective of reality. Nothing on the reality of it for most men and constant references to hookup culture, which only exist for about 1% of males and another few percent get the odd bite.
Are those real?
(The tats, that is.)
Are they permanent? If so, too bad.
Otherwise she might have been at least an 8. Why do they do this to themselves?
 

Aizen

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Something relevant has popped up on The Daily Mail:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...cGuirk-unmasked-vile-messages-got-sacked.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-Tinder-creep-reveal-abused-rejected-him.html

A guy who I think could be said to be a chad - top 1% - has been publicly shamed and lost his job because he was 'harassing' women on Tinder:

33698304-8779191-image-m-22_1601252394983.jpg


Here is one of the women who have accused him:

33647166-8779191-Ebonie_Sanderson_pictured_posted_voice_messages_from_a_man_on_Ti-m-2_1601256358213.jpg


Who I think would have fallen into the WNB category of most pre-July 2019 posters.

It's not the intention of the article, but gives you some insight into the situation.

He heavily negs women to the point an average guy would risk being reported to the police, but these women contend with him, trying to establish their value.

He also fornicated with this one:

33670602-8776897-image-a-2_1601177909806.jpg


on their first meeting,at which she just turned up at her home. The bang was enough for her, she moved on. Chad not like.

This is the state of Tinder. Chad's chasing 5s land-whales-to-be and being passed up by 7s after an ONS. Pakistan recently banned it. Maybe the only thing that country is doing right.

Western fathers just allow their daughters to be on what most men hope will be is a sex vending machine; while their sons are turned into raging simps by a sea of rejection. I've never seen the MSM cover online dating from a perspective of reality. Nothing on the reality of it for most men and constant references to hookup culture, which only exist for about 1% of males and another few percent get the odd bite.

This guy had his life ruined over these low quality women. Some are passably attractive, but none over a 7. Then again, the guy is pretty clearly sociopathic, or at the very least, extremely narcissistic. “A glimpse into the life of a Western chad”. Except he lost his job, had his full name shamed online, and is most likely banned from Tinder.

What‘s next for this 1%er?
 

Aizen

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Update: The man in question, Thomas McGuirk, has publicly apologized for his outbursts:

Sydney man Thomas McGuirk speaks out, ‘deeply sorry’ for ‘vile’ Tinder messages
Now the software engineer from Bondi, in Sydney’s eastern suburbs, has spoken exclusively to news.com.au as he wanted to apologise to the women involved as he recognised his behaviour was wrong.

“I didn’t mean the things I said, I was acting out in an impulsive way because I was hurt and I do recognise it,” Mr McGuirk said.
“It was absolutely inappropriate behaviour and I’m really disappointed in myself.”

Mr McGuirk said the backlash to his behaviour on multiple dating apps had been a “wake-up call” and he was “extremely embarrassed”.

“I was behaving so inappropriately and didn’t even realise, until this came out and it hit me, ‘what am I doing?’” he said.

He said he knew the way he behaved was “wrong”, stating he “struggles with rejection”.

“I was angry and upset. There’s no excuse for it, I have been brought up with good values and I am so distraught that I let my ego get the better of me.”

Mr McGuirk said he was “sincerely sorry” for his actions and added: “If I could take them back I would”.

“I didn’t mean the harmful things that I said. I was trying to say what I think will hurt them, it’s not what actually I believe. It makes no sense.”

The audio messages Mr McGuirk sent Ms Sanderson were so shocking that it sparked nationwide fury.

He could be heard in the clips saying: “You’re actually a fat f***ing pig. You know that? Thanks. You’re f***ing ugly. Your a** looks OKAY and you would have been one f**k. You would have been just one f**k because you’re a disgusting fat pig.”

His employer – who identified McGuirk from his voice and profile photo – made the swift decision to let him go, stating was there was “no place in our workplace for someone who treats women with that amount of disrespect”.
 

MichaelWitcoff

Hummingbird
Orthodox
The high percentage of overweight or obese women in their 20s, is astounding.

And they upload gross, unflattering pictures of themselves without the slightest awareness of how bad they look. Constant pictures of themselves shoveling food into their mouths. I can hardly believe how much things have changed in the last ten years; my first girlfriend tried her best to never even eat in front of me if she could avoid it. I’m not saying that’s the healthiest approach, but at least it demonstrated a desire to not look like a pig.
 

prophet60091

 
Banned
Atheist
Guy is definitely a psycho even by old forums standards.
I agree, and I'm definitely not going to defend him, but I can maybe explain it just from a mathematical standpoint.

First, he never imagined that the mainstream press would be willing to write an article on him. The calculation he made was, there are three options after she turns him down: (1) forget her and move on with your life. The probability you'll end up having sex with her if you choose this option is definitely 0% (2) play the nice guy, reply with something like, "it was great to meet you and I'd love to stay friends" - at best, this results in becoming an orbiter. The probability that you have sex with her is still 0% or nearly 0. (3) play the jerk. At worst, she blocks you (0% outcome). But at best, she stays engaged with you in order to defend herself and also because she likes drama. There is a small but non-zero probability that he can convert that into sex.

That's what he was going for, I imagine. I don't recommend it or condone it or defend it, but I will suggest that it'd be fantastic if women would take a dozen milliseconds to consider the insight this gives into their own psyche. They really do like drama. There really are women who have sex with men like this. I know it offends you, ladies, that I'm pointing this out, and I know you prefer to default to the "zomg patriarchy I'm a victim" narrative, but what I'm saying here is true.

And lest you believe I'm unfair, I think the exact same thing about simps who are taken advantage of by women. I don't hate women because they scam men on OnlyFans. The fact that that tactic is possible is insight into the weaknesses of men - and as a man it's important for me to face up to that. Ladies, you should do the same.
 

griffinmill

Pelican
And they upload gross, unflattering pictures of themselves without the slightest awareness of how bad they look. Constant pictures of themselves shoveling food into their mouths. I can hardly believe how much things have changed in the last ten years; my first girlfriend tried her best to never even eat in front of me if she could avoid it. I’m not saying that’s the healthiest approach, but at least it demonstrated a desire to not look like a pig.

Girls shovelling food into their mouths is one of my pet peeves too. I'm disgusted when I see pictures of girls doing this. It's totally gross. I also don't want a girl to eat much in front of me. In Eastern Europe this is possible. Girls pick through their food and they actually turn down food a lot of the time. Girls in the UK where I live? You should see what they can shovel away when I'm in their company. Disgusting.
 

Amwolf

Robin
Woman
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This is what his life has been ruined over. A Harley Quinn tryhard?
Wow, what a degenerate and how sad to destroy your reputation over something (notice that I said something rather than someone) like this? These unnatural markings to one's body are a sign of mutilation, vanity, and individualism. A tattooed woman has reduced her femininity and disfigured her purity — as one doesn’t have the right to mark the flesh of God’s creation. Tattoos are unorthodox and evil. Period.
 
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Seeker79

Kingfisher
Girls shovelling food into their mouths is one of my pet peeves too. I'm disgusted when I see pictures of girls doing this. It's totally gross. I also don't want a girl to eat much in front of me. In Eastern Europe this is possible. Girls pick through their food and they actually turn down food a lot of the time. Girls in the UK where I live? You should see what they can shovel away when I'm in their company. Disgusting.

If you're overweight don't post pics of yourself eating food! Common sense, especially on a dating website.

With 60% of women between 20 and 34 overweight, I guess it's the new norm.
 

godfather dust

 
Banned
Gold Member
Wow, what a degenerate and how sad to destroy your reputation over something (notice that I said something rather than someone) like this? These unnatural markings to one's body are a sign of mutilation, vanity, and individualism. A tattooed woman has reduced her femininity and disfigured her purity — as one doesn’t have the right to mark the flesh of God’s creation. Tattoos are unorthodox and evil. Period.
I generally would make the assumption that a woman with a sleeve tattoo and a choker on is looking for abusive men, which may have been why this guy decided to be an idiot and ruin his life.

I find such women disgusting and avoid interacting with them if at all possible.
 

Mr Freedom

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
I've noticed that aging beauties on FB talk a lot about their "stalkers" even though no one asked.

Because the western "modern" women craves attention and validation. Most men I know can have street altercations and not give a snuff about it in a few hours time.

A woman get's cold approached in daytime and you bet she will probably let all of her social circle and work colleagues know about it for a whole week.
 

Mr Freedom

Robin
Orthodox Inquirer
I agree, and I'm definitely not going to defend him, but I can maybe explain it just from a mathematical standpoint.

First, he never imagined that the mainstream press would be willing to write an article on him. The calculation he made was, there are three options after she turns him down: (1) forget her and move on with your life. The probability you'll end up having sex with her if you choose this option is definitely 0% (2) play the nice guy, reply with something like, "it was great to meet you and I'd love to stay friends" - at best, this results in becoming an orbiter. The probability that you have sex with her is still 0% or nearly 0. (3) play the jerk. At worst, she blocks you (0% outcome). But at best, she stays engaged with you in order to defend herself and also because she likes drama. There is a small but non-zero probability that he can convert that into sex.

That's what he was going for, I imagine. I don't recommend it or condone it or defend it, but I will suggest that it'd be fantastic if women would take a dozen milliseconds to consider the insight this gives into their own psyche. They really do like drama. There really are women who have sex with men like this. I know it offends you, ladies, that I'm pointing this out, and I know you prefer to default to the "zomg patriarchy I'm a victim" narrative, but what I'm saying here is true.

And lest you believe I'm unfair, I think the exact same thing about simps who are taken advantage of by women. I don't hate women because they scam men on OnlyFans. The fact that that tactic is possible is insight into the weaknesses of men - and as a man it's important for me to face up to that. Ladies, you should do the same.

yep

He was running "Asshole" game which in the West comes off as the best probability of him getting a sexual encounter.

However it did not work out well for him due to whatever reason. It looks like modern secular dating/game in the West is increasingly becoming a zero-sum game. You can either avoid women who reject you and get nothing, become a worthless simp in the hope that you will be given some pity after lady gets pumped & dumped by chad or act like the Asshole and either give the woman the emotional investment and drama for her to fall for you or fail in the process and watch as she doxxes you to oblivion to the point that you lose your job and reputation.

It's no wonder that a large number men nowadays are either turning to MGTOW or on the other end of the spectrum becoming onlyfans beta simps. It's just not worth it.

Sadly as a result marriage rates are falling and ideas like misandry and misogyny are on the rise slowly making the genders further apart from understanding one another. The only fix for this is to reintroduce strict religious values into western society but sadly I don't see that happening unless their is a major famine or WWIII like crisis that hit's the planet.
 

prophet60091

 
Banned
Atheist
It's just not worth it.

I still enjoy flirting. I enjoy making a girl laugh. So, because of that, I'm able to enjoy practicing "game" for that alone. And when I sometimes bag one for sex, even better.

Beyond that, sadly, I have to agree that it's not really worth it. If a woman wants a date ...meh, it's not worth it. If she wants an LTR, it's probably not worth it. If she wants marriage, it's definitely not worth it.

And I'll concede that things may be different in religious communities, because what I'm describing is my view on the kind of women that I'm seeing in secular society. For me, they're not worth anything more than the bit of dopamine I get from flirting, and the occasional fleeting pleasure of sex. Anything more than that crosses into "no thanks" territory for me.

Pretty sad situation we're in.
 
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