Online dating in 2007 vs now: what happened?

TheosisSeeker

 
Banned
Orthodox Catechumen
The thing is, I don't have problems with approaching women in public. If I see an attractive woman alone in the grocery store I will ask her a question and say hi, etc. The problem is I don't really know where to go to meet single women anymore. I'm 35, so I'm too old for the college bars. Online dating has been a total failure for me. I think when I was on POF a few years back, I had maybe 2 dates and one misrepresented herself, the other I just wasn't into.

I have had a couple of dates through friends. One was totally boring and again, I had to 100% carry the conversation when we were out. Another girl I dated was super clingy. I don't mind that, but then I found out that she was still sleeping with her "buddy" from work.

I tried out MeetUp but the women weren't into me. One I kind of liked was into another guy in our group.

I think I just have to learn to be comfortable being on my own. It has affected my relationship with my parents too. I feel like they are too controlling/treat me like a child and it is going to affect my dating life. Maybe I am worried over nothing and should just accept the situation and God will lead me.

To add to all the other issues with dating in the West, trust is another one.

Many 'single' women are not really 'single' at all. Some have a guy they are fornicating with, maybe attached maybe not.

It's really a sad state of affairs, but I have found a few white pills.

1) It increases your ability to practice the faith.
2) You realize that true happiness comes from within yourself through the Holy Spirit.

The fact that life would be 'better' married is a mirage. Problems and sufferings would still exist, albeit in different forms.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
The fact that life would be 'better' married is a mirage. Problems and sufferings would still exist, albeit in different forms.
If we really think on this last part, I think we realize it is true. I think the greater part of the suffering with this isn't the denial that dealing with a woman can be its own cross, but rather that you didn't have a legacy, which really should be the case if you have good qualities. Alas, that is the world we are living in.
 

SlickyBoy

Ostrich
Many 'single' women are not really 'single' at all. Some have a guy they are fornicating with, maybe attached maybe not.
Unless she's one of a dying breed who lives with her parents until marrying, virtually all western women of marrying age will be monkey branching. They will never be purely single the way a maiden would have been in days gone by.

Current technology and social trends facilitates them working against their best interests, and the brainwashing of everyone involved doesn't wear off until far too late - if it ever does.
 

stonesfan99

Pigeon
Catholic
Wow I'm done with online dating. I tried out Coffee Meets Bagel, went back on Tinder for a bit, tried out Snapchat stupidly... I got no matches. So either no one is on these apps anymore, or women are getting so many matches that they never see me or my messages I sent. I don't know but I think I'm just going to stop caring about dating, travel and hope I meet someone along the way. I like asian and latin women. No, not a fetish, just the type of women I like. I think that may be my best bet. I've gotten numbers flirting with women at the grocery store too.
 

Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
Wow I'm done with online dating. I tried out Coffee Meets Bagel, went back on Tinder for a bit, tried out Snapchat stupidly... I got no matches. So either no one is on these apps anymore, or women are getting so many matches that they never see me or my messages I sent. I don't know but I think I'm just going to stop caring about dating, travel and hope I meet someone along the way. I like asian and latin women. No, not a fetish, just the type of women I like. I think that may be my best bet. I've gotten numbers flirting with women at the grocery store too.
I found online to be such an unbelievable waste of time. It's so skewed that the girls that are interested are a full 3+ points lower than you, so all it does is waste your time and make you think you're way uglier than you actually are. Currently there's not really a good option. The best place to meet women in general is at bars but they usually aren't that great.
 

TheosisSeeker

 
Banned
Orthodox Catechumen
Wow I'm done with online dating. I tried out Coffee Meets Bagel, went back on Tinder for a bit, tried out Snapchat stupidly... I got no matches. So either no one is on these apps anymore, or women are getting so many matches that they never see me or my messages I sent. I don't know but I think I'm just going to stop caring about dating, travel and hope I meet someone along the way. I like asian and latin women. No, not a fetish, just the type of women I like. I think that may be my best bet. I've gotten numbers flirting with women at the grocery store too.

I don't recommend Coffee Meets Bagel. You will get matches if you are patient, but they are low quality. I did get one solid match from there about a year ago, but it didn't work out. In her case, we had lots of things in common too. The app is filled with mostly feminist career women looking for Mr. Perfect.

Even the 'Christian' women were bad. They had bikini pics on their profile and during conversation they were lukewarm about the faith. One Protestant woman (shouldn't have even been chatting, but was) went on and on about her issues with Christianity and kept sending me podcasts from her pastor and seemed to fetishize him. I'm like I'm not going to your church.

Overall, I agree it's a waste of time.
 
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hedonist

 
Banned
Other Christian
Do any of these apps nowadays allow you to filter for unvaccinated women? Or is the likelihood of finding an unvaccinated woman on these apps so infinitesimal anyway that it's pointless to even try?


Dont worry the vaccinated ones will tell you they are it’s like a giant fluro sign..... for now. Give it 6mths to a year and it will be best kept secret.
 

stonesfan99

Pigeon
Catholic
What actually works for you all for dating? I used to just meet people through friends. But my circle of friends is so small now that I never meet anyone that way. A whole bunch moved for school/work. Should I meet people through co-workers?
 

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
What actually works for you all for dating? I used to just meet people through friends. But my circle of friends is so small now that I never meet anyone that way. A whole bunch moved for school/work. Should I meet people through co-workers?

I met someone at a very specific conference for the field I have worked in for 12 years or so. In hindsight I should have been going to these things for years. I own one of the largest companies in a multi-billion-dollar market, yet I've never spent a second to communicate with anyone else who works in or is interested in the topic. I got the emails or numbers of four girls from the conference. One of them I am guessing is about 35. The other three are all 20. Two are not interested, but one of them is. She has good trad ideas and thinks the modern world is debauched. Very feminine.

I have spent a bit of time this year trying to dig out trad or trad-friendly women online. It would really be better to get a secretary for this. It's a lot of work for very flaky returns. I think part of the issue is that it's difficult to start any sort of connection online. And I think it's impossible for many women to put in any effort into these communications. I have found I can get a lot of numbers (outside of Western countries), but they don't put any effort in. It's a bit like talking to a brick wall. I can send on average 20 sentences and get back two with nothing to work with.

Beyond that, despite the bad situation with cities, there are lots of opportunities to meet people who are not connected to the degraded system. You could go on a week tour of different churches, and ask a question to anyone there, even grandma.

I also think, despite a lot of the correct red-pill analysis on women, there are a lot of women who are largely out of the mating paradigm due to certain traits. Quiet girls who like to read books. I spoke with one and she said guys approach her, but she's not interested in the type of guys who approach her.

In travelling, as few places I have found good for meeting people (not necessarily girls directly):

- health food shops (probably not in the West)
- double/quad bed train carriages in the FSU, maybe other places
- some churches
- shared accommodation
- meet ups (many listed on sites like Meetup)
- farmer's markets
- English language groups (I've been to an Orthodox one in Russia)
- vegan/vegetarian restaurants - you may think this odd, but in non-Western countries this is generally people who can think and they are quite different to Western countries; I just met a guy in one who is a vegan, but thinks one of the biggest problems in his home-country is divorce, and thinks the culture is degen... same with the health food shops. I met one owner who had three children and was worried about the microchip. In Serbia one old guy who owned one invited me back to his home. His main interest was football.

This is all outside of the west. I guess it will work in the West. But it's going to be more degraded. And I wouldn't even think of health food shops and vegan restaurants in the West.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
I met someone at a very specific conference for the field I have worked in for 12 years or so. In hindsight I should have been going to these things for years.
Work things that are quasi social events may be the best of all, as they are less serious than work, more social and oriented towards connections in one way or another, anyway. They approximate the "university" or "early job" connections that used to be common, even in the West. I agree, it's sad that we didn't realize this as much. But think about how common they are? Yearly events at best, and how many are you going to attend. Three a year? Probably. And that's trying hard, too.
I have spent a bit of time this year trying to dig out trad or trad-friendly women online. It would really be better to get a secretary for this. It's a lot of work for very flaky returns. I think part of the issue is that it's difficult to start any sort of connection online. And I think it's impossible for many women to put in any effort into these communications. I have found I can get a lot of numbers (outside of Western countries), but they don't put any effort in. It's a bit like talking to a brick wall. I can send on average 20 sentences and get back two with nothing to work with.
I feel like Cynllo has certainly done his homework on this and he is right that it would require a secretary. It is lack of trust since online isn't natural or gives a feeling of how normal socially the person is, or how he carries himself. Women are social cue beings. Feels, as you know, good or bad that's how they decide.

Of course, the problem with the west is that once you are successful and 35+, no one is interested in 30+ women. The few that a random, successful guy would consider at all have a hallway of dikk thrown at them daily.
 

Zagor

Kingfisher
I’ve recently took up dancing and hiking. For both activities more women singed up than men, and men (and most women) are predominantly of the older age (50+) In the dancing group there’s about 5 women of eligible age for me to consider, same in the hiking group. Now if I would narrow it down by attractiveness, that’s 4 women in total, and as of yet I don’t know them well enough to narrow it down by character, so in the end there might be no pickings at all. But I didn’t go into it for the women anyway, I want to hike and dance.
 

Optimus Princeps

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen

Can't verify the sources in the article, but didn't we call it?
Looks like the whole thing is just a honeypot and Israeli data collection operation. A new dating app trying to gain users, which is integral for it to work, yet they don't allow you to actually join without an invitation but let you fill out all of the information before telling you so.

We are living in such evil times.
 

Blade Runner

Crow
Orthodox
Looks like the whole thing is just a honeypot and Israeli data collection operation. A new dating app trying to gain users, which is integral for it to work, yet they don't allow you to actually join without an invitation but let you fill out all of the information before telling you so.

We are living in such evil times.
I just asked this question a week ago. Amazing that it already came true. Thanks for the links.
 
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