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paninaro

Woodpecker
One man is subscribing to a woman's Onlyfans and then sending the nudes to their father. The women are not very happy about this.
That's an awesome troll by the guy. Some people responded to his tweet saying he violated copyright by sending them to the father. Is that really the case? It seems to me he paid money for the image, and unless the sender explicitly retained distribution rights, doesn't he have a right to redistribute them? Especially considering he's not redistributing them for profit. Any lawyers care to comment?
 

CynicalContrarian

Peacock
Gold Member
@tarashouse
Sad. Today I learned about a man who buys pictures of naked girls, a consensual sale, but then he sends them to their Dad, their employer, their church, etc. I really didn’t know such people existed
Crying face

@TellYourSonThis
Good. The ever increasing normalisation of prostitution in all its varying forms is getting out of hand. Perhaps the humiliation will be enough to get her to stop. Not because she is innately moral or a good person, but because she values her family above her greed.
@TellYourSonThis
The less comfortable they feel being promiscuous and arrogant, the better. The less emotional/moral support and acceptance they get for engaging in degenerate behaviour, the better. For without acceptance, they crumble. Modern society is far too enabling of women's degeneracy.
 
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kinjutsu

Pelican
That's an awesome troll by the guy. Some people responded to his tweet saying he violated copyright by sending them to the father. Is that really the case? It seems to me he paid money for the image, and unless the sender explicitly retained distribution rights, doesn't he have a right to redistribute them? Especially considering he's not redistributing them for profit. Any lawyers care to comment?

I saw a thread where the guy was threatening to send the photos to the girls family, friends, church. But he hadn't done it yet. Thhat right there is enough to get the attention of the police. Its extortion. Very easy for them to arrest him.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
It's only (illegal) extortion if he has no right to distribute the pictures yet threatens to do it in order to obtain an outcome from the person being threatened.

Your crazy ex keeps annoying you.
Extortion: "Buzz off or I'll post those nudes you sent me to facebook.
Not extortion: "Buzz off or I'll post that picture of you face down in your vomit to facebook.

The legality of the redistribution is the question, which in most places will also hinge on whether the material is considered legally pornographic.

Kind of ironic when you think about it. Supposedly a lot of the shots aren't technically nudes by the standards of today's Sodom and Gomorrah society we live in.
 
The following quotes are all from college newspapers. Colleges are promoting "sex work" which is a term people use to make prostitution not seem filthy.

Justifications women give are: It's better than working other jobs, it pays for college, it empowers them, it puts them in control of men, they feel good about themselves, it's not porn if it's feet or underwear pics, it's real work just as any other job, it's stigmatized and shouldn't be [usually no reason given as to why... the general progressive view], and they're doing good because men are lonely and want companionship.

I had my images turned off, but there might be sexy images on the newspaper websites.

Cam Girl. Stripper. Student. Lady Lola Lightning cams and strips to fund her entire tuition, living costs and more. No toys or tricks involved.

“I like camming because I can literally do it from my room, and I’m not having to dance [in a club] seven times for a couple dollars,” Lola said. “And I’m the only person there, it’s not like a full club of other girls too. I wouldn’t call [stripping] competitive, but it’s obviously easier for me to make more money.”

It’s clear: Lola calls all the shots. On Periscope, she can block trolls instantly, set prices for her private streams and go live whenever she pleases.

“I tell anyone. I’m definitely not too shy about it,” Lola said. “Usually everyone is like ‘Oh ok, I know someone who knows someone that does that too.’”

...

For Lola, the strip club is a place of female worship that allows her to, for a moment, level the playing field between men and women as patrons pay to watch her perform. That liberating energy spills into her daily life.

“I’ve become way more confident in how I carry myself — like especially when I talk to men too,” Lola said. “I used to be sort of shy in a way, and now it’s like I’m this unstoppable force, and they’re smelly.”

...

“I definitely think everyone should be paying for porn.”

...

Coming from a big family, Lola made the conscious decision to be financially independent and not rely on her family. All of her tuition and rent money comes out of her stripping and camming gigs.

“[My mom] doesn’t like it,” Lola said. “She just worries about me, like any parent would.”





“To me, it is just another form of art”

“I didn’t start going into it with an idea of what I was doing. It started when I met a date on Tinder. He asked me if I had any fetishes, and I was a little shocked but I asked him if he did, and he said, ‘yeah, I got a thing for feet’,” said the student. “I was kind of like, ok, it’s whatever, and then he asked me if I would take pictures and send them to him for a price, and me being a broke college student, I found the offer to be extremely beneficial for me.”

The student described feeling conflicted by the transaction. “In a way it empowered me, but it in a way it also was not empowering. He is asking for pictures of my feet and no other parts of my body. It feels good to be found attractive, but it sucks the only part that he found attractive was my feet. It was like a double–edged sword. ‘It’s like, yay, I make money because my feet are cute.’”

The student said that the person they was sending pictures to sent them a reference video on how to pose with their feet and explained that there are certain poses that are considered to be sexier, and pleasurable.

“When my feet are together, or the way that I rub them are what my clients find to be attractive. Videos are more popular than pictures, but they are just videos of just feet, no face, or other parts of the body. Painted toenails are a big yes, from pastel to pinks and purples, what some consider ‘feminine,’” said the student. “Sometimes they like the idea of feet to smell like buttery popcorn. To get more money you have to mention they have a smell similar to buttered popcorn. It just what they like.”

...

“It’s not prostitution. It is not pornography. To me it is just another form of art,” said the student. “If it [were] other parts of my body, I wouldn’t be so willing to send pictures, though, because that’s too private. It’s hard to explain,” they said.




Myths and realities of being a camgirl, told by a camgirl: Paid for two semesters of my tuition by camming, and it's not what people think.

I frequently say “sex work is real work” for two reasons: first, because my work is just as valid as anyone else’s, and second, because many people are truly unaware that camming and performing requires, well, work.

...

Hollywood portrayals of sex workers tend to generalize all sex workers into jaded, thick-skinned pros and exploited, waifish victims.

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[It's a myth that] Sex workers have “dead eyes.” I hear this about camgirls, strippers, and every other type of sex worker. However, I personally feel a lot more dead and listless when I work my retail job than when I’m in front of a camera. If I’m not looking straight at the camera and smiling, it’s because I’m trying to adjust my underwear and I don’t want to make it obvious. When an exotic dancer is staring into space as she turns around the pole, she’s just as likely to be thinking about the fact that she needs to do laundry as any tragic and profound reflection on exploitation.

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One of my favourite clients was a military man who was stationed in a remote area where he couldn’t easily meet people. He found it convenient to spend money on a camgirl, but only about half of our private shows were sexual in nature. We would talk for hours about his family back home (who he cared for greatly), his aspirations to move his career forward, and how his life differed from mine in Canada.

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Before I became a camgirl, I had no idea how many people need this kind of companionship in their lives. People combine their loneliness and their sexual desire in all sorts of ways.

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Camming puts me in a position of control. People can’t physically do things to me when I cam, and I can’t physically do things to them — I am being paid to do things to myself, and say things about myself or about my client that will get them off.

....

If someone demands that I do something I won’t do, I can just reach out and shut off the webcam.



This last one is a joke story written for a comedy college newspaper, but compared to the real stories above, it could be real.

Loyola Student Decides To Become Cam Girl After A Week Of Online Classes

“I see it this way, I am already getting so much experience being on camera for class,” the student said. “Why not just keep the camera going for an hour or two more and maybe make some extra money?”

...the student feels “grateful” that she can still get a little extra income from those unsatisfied by their quarantine partner.

Additionally, the student believes that being a cam girl allows her to stick to the University's values of social justice without leaving her apartment.

“I like to think I am doing a bit of a public service,” the student said. “Everyone stuck at home is already bored and horny, why not help my fellow human? Care for the person AND care for the community. I mean, it’s a win-win for everyone.”
 
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To be fair, I'd probably sell pictures of my feet if I could.
I think there's something to this. To them it's easy and doesn't feel like making pornography or being a prostitute standing on the curb, at least not right away. There's a deception, though, as to how harmful it is to their souls. It also opens doors to more dangerous places. When college newspapers, along with popular culture, pushes this type of behavior, I completely understand why more women try it.

As always, I don't want to take a holier-than-thou attitude with these matters, but rather I strive to understand them and help people if I can. I strive to hate the sin (focusing on my own) but love the sinner.
 
Many girls are signing up cause some cam girls are boasting about how much they are making with OF, Patreon and Manyvids. But there has got to be a saturation point. Even without the corona related economic downturn, how many e-thots can the economy support?

Another thing is the novelty factor. OF girls interact a lot with their buyers and reply to every message they get. So they are providing that "real connection" compared to free tube porn.
 

kel

Kingfisher
Many girls are signing up cause some cam girls are boasting about how much they are making with OF, Patreon and Manyvids. But there has got to be a saturation point. Even without the corona related economic downturn, how many e-thots can the economy support?
The vast majority make essentially nothing (compared to the time they put into it), just like most YouTubers or instagram influencers don't make anything or even end up spending a lot of money and coming out in the red. For everyone one Pewdiepie or Belle Delphine there are myriad nobodies you never hear about who racked up credit card debt to go nowhere.
 
This thread is to discuss the cultural impact of OnlyFans, not to share sexy photos.

One man is subscribing to a woman's Onlyfans and then sending the nudes to their father. The women are not very happy about this.

Legend. He is doing God's work.

The following quotes are all from college newspapers. Colleges are promoting "sex work" which is a term people use to make prostitution not seem filthy.
Colleges promoting prostitution only makes sense. They want those girls to be able to pay their 6-figure tuition fees for women's studies. Institutional pimping is a thing.

The whole 'sex work' notion is cringeworthy to the core. It fits the perversion of the nihilistic, postmodern, anti-human cult that has taken a hold of certain parts of society. Coming up with such a term is the approach of a pimp who wants to make his business more credible and lure more girls into prostitution. Again, not surprising that colleges are promoting this.
 

bucky

Pelican
It's only (illegal) extortion if he has no right to distribute the pictures yet threatens to do it in order to obtain an outcome from the person being threatened.

Your crazy ex keeps annoying you.
Extortion: "Buzz off or I'll post those nudes you sent me to facebook.
Not extortion: "Buzz off or I'll post that picture of you face down in your vomit to facebook.

The legality of the redistribution is the question, which in most places will also hinge on whether the material is considered legally pornographic.

Kind of ironic when you think about it. Supposedly a lot of the shots aren't technically nudes by the standards of today's Sodom and Gomorrah society we live in.
My guess is that if what the guy did by sending those pics to their dads, churches, etc. isn't illegal already, it will be made so soon.

Can't help thinking he's a bit of a hero though.
 
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