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CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member

Oh that is classic.
They have OF accounts do they...?
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CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Aren't most OnlyFans girls simply high-tech strippers? "Oh, you are so special to me, baby... I missed you, so much!" That is how I tend to view them. As for the men who pay them money to interact with them, I wonder what percentage of them are autistic?


Oh definitely.
It's all on a spectrum.

Basic Twitch e-girl who shows minimal skin.
Slutty Twitch e-girl who shows plenty of thigh & cleavage.
"Sexy selfie" Instagram e-thots.
Bikini Instagram e-thots.
Barely nude OnlyFans girls.
Nude OF girls.
Sex / masturbation orientated OF / MyFreeCams girls.
Strip joint strippers.
Porn stars.


It all boils down to how much each girl is willing to do, in order to fulfill her attention validation requirements.

That they can earn money off of OF is a massive part of it. Then bonus points if they get to do it from the comfort of their own bedroom & don't have to actively engage with weird or wearisome men in person.
 
I'm gonna argue the contrarian for a minute.... I'm curious

There's many, many situations in life that are not ideal at all. In a perfect world, if OnlyFans is Option A, it's much better to do Option B. But here in this world, if you're a girl, and this coronavirus thing has just come by, and you don't have money to pay for rent or food... OnlyFans starts to look like an option that makes sense.

In the case of girls who aren't doing it cause they're in high need of the money.... well..... I think that hustling, and achieving success, and cultivating a market, is something that comes waayyyyy easier for a man than for a woman. For us guys, often the challenge is for us to step outside of our heads and learn how to relate and to connect with what's around us. For girls...... connecting comes very naturally, but trusting their own minds and having the confidence to commit and act does not come naturally to them. These girls are learning to connect with their masculine sides which is so key for every woman to do, and it's impressive when it happens, the same way it's key for every guy to connect with their feminine side, and impressive when they manage to do that. Speaking of which...

If you're a guy and you're feeling like a loser and you want to elevate your life to the point where you have enough self-esteem and dignity (dignity and refinedness are things that come much more easily to a woman), what's gonna help you go from A to B, where A is being a loser, and B is feeling worthy enough to get a girl's attention? Well... sometimes.... it's paying for a girl and seeing the way she treats you kindly and respectfully even though you're paying here.

We're judgemental about how transactional things are on places like OnlyFans... but really.... aren't they just a very small sampler of what marriage is? Which is the biggest transaction of them all? Most of us here agree that gender roles are a good thing in marriage, could it not be argued that OnlyFans is like marriage, except instead of being on the timeline of years and decades, it's on the timelines of hours? And OnlyFans involves less commitment so it's actually a more safe way to explore these kinds of dynamics? Cause I'll tell you about someone who's been said to have used high-end escorts.... Donald Trump haha.

So I wonder if to some degree the sex market can help men become more comfortable being sexually dominant and feel ownership over their sexuality and women can become more comfortable being assertive and feeling ownership over their own sexuality too.

Yes, I think OnlyFans and these sorts of things can absolutely be used in a way that creates even more chaos, and confusion, and hurt in your life. 100% agree. But I also think it can act as a vehicle for a number of people. Sometimes the only way out is the way through.

Your wife and her boyfriend are glad that you found a way to cope, I'm sure.
 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
Belle Delphine, the girl who made a fortune on OF NOT showing the goods, is now showing everything...and she's doing porn on Christmas. I guess the bathwater sales...dried up.

Wonder how much money she managed to save.

Not a new story necessarily.
Girl starts in Playboy. Then goes to Penthouse. Then to soft porn. Then onto full porn.

Drugs, money, abuse. One reason or another for the slippery slope.
 
Nice personal attack instead of engaging in a philosophical conversation.
Sometimes the only way out is the way through, you know ?

BTW, why did you delete your preceding posts (not the most logical way to start a philosophical conversation).

It seems his profile is no longer available. He actually texted me asking if I could delete my quote of his post where he makes his case for cuck. It contains some real nuggets of deep philosophical insights such as:

'dignity and refinedness are things that come much more easily to a woman'

he must be talking about Belle Delphine here.

This ties in very nicely with:

'if you're a girl, and this coronavirus thing has just come by, and you don't have money to pay for rent or food... OnlyFans starts to look like an option that makes sense.'

Using your body for sexual exploitation in front of strangers around the world vs. getting a job where you get to keep your clothes on. Makes sense.

He finishes off strong with:

'it's paying for a girl and seeing the way she treats you kindly and respectfully even though you're paying here.'

paying somebody to be nice. Cuck level 1000%.
 
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Oh definitely.
It's all on a spectrum.

Basic Twitch e-girl who shows minimal skin.
Slutty Twitch e-girl who shows plenty of thigh & cleavage.
"Sexy selfie" Instagram e-thots.
Bikini Instagram e-thots.
Barely nude OnlyFans girls.
Nude OF girls.
Sex / masturbation orientated OF / MyFreeCams girls.
Strip joint strippers.
Porn stars.


It all boils down to how much each girl is willing to do, in order to fulfill her attention validation requirements.

That they can earn money off of OF is a massive part of it. Then bonus points if they get to do it from the comfort of their own bedroom & don't have to actively engage with weird or wearisome men in person.
I never really understood why hot girls would do porn or cams for money (now, 20+ years ago a porn career could actually be very lucrative, but those days are over). If a hot girl “needs” money, they can easily make hundreds a night in the bar/restaurant industry (at least in US tipping culture), sure not at some truck stop cafe, but at the popular places they likely want to work at anyway. If they wanted the thrill and higher paydays, they could easily turn to “escorting” and benefit from the discretion (saw some of this in my time in the hotel industry). But alas, the money is merely an excuse for these girls when the societial shame catches up to them. The money is merely the bonus, the real payday for these girls is the massive validation and dopamine hits from the simp attention, and likely a (mostly false) assumption that their whoring antics will maximize their exposure and appeal to 1% chads (it might work for short term hookups, but ruins their long term appeal). I think its very difficult for men to understand this line of thinking in a woman, but I’m just guessing it's something along the equivalent of men going all out and essentially pretending to be rich for a short period of time, in the hopes of faking it until they make it, and landing enough 8+ lays to validate their own worth. Women are just terrible at weighing cause and effect, and they can’t comprehend the negative aftermath in the midst of massive short term gratification. I’m surprised there aren’t more female drug addicts, but part of that might be explained by their absolute fear of social ostracization.
 
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Dr Mantis Toboggan

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Belle Delphine, the girl who made a fortune on OF NOT showing the goods, is now showing everything...and she's doing porn on Christmas. I guess the bathwater sales...dried up.

Wonder how much money she managed to save.

You left out the most disturbing part. She plans to auction off the condom used in the porno after it's filmed.

 

CynicalContrarian

Owl
Gold Member
I never really understood why hot girls would do porn or cams for money (now, 20+ years ago a porn career could actually be very lucrative, but those days are over). If a hot girl “needs” money, they can easily make hundreds a night in the bar/restaurant industry (at least in US tipping culture), sure not at some truck stop cafe, but at the popular places they likely want to work at anyway. If they wanted the thrill and higher paydays, they could easily turn to “escorting” and benefit from the discretion (saw some of this in my time in the hotel industry). But alas, the money is merely an excuse for these girls when the societial shame catches up to them. The money is merely the bonus, the real payday for these girls is the massive validation and dopamine hits from the simp attention, and likely a (mostly false) assumption that their whoring antics will maximize their exposure and appeal to 1% chads (it might work for short term hookups, but ruins their long term appeal). I think its very difficult for men to understand this line of thinking in a woman, but I’m just guessing it's something along the equivalent of men going all out and essentially pretending to be rich for a short period of time, in the hopes of faking it until they make it, and landing enough 8+ lays to validate their own worth. Women are just terrible at weighing cause and effect, and they can’t comprehend the negative aftermath in the midst of massive short term gratification. I’m surprised there aren’t more female drug addicts, but part of that might be explained by their absolute fear of social ostracization.

They may not necessarily resort to hard narcotics. Yet there's plenty of 'anxious' chicks on anti-depressants...
 

Max Roscoe

Kingfisher
I never really understood why hot girls would do porn or cams for money (now, 20+ years ago a porn career could actually be very lucrative, but those days are over). If a hot girl “needs” money, they can easily make hundreds a night in the bar/restaurant industry (at least in US tipping culture), sure not at some truck stop cafe, but at the popular places they likely want to work at anyway. If they wanted the thrill and higher paydays, they could easily turn to “escorting” and benefit from the discretion (saw some of this in my time in the hotel industry). But alas, the money is merely an excuse for these girls when the societial shame catches up to them. The money is merely the bonus, the real payday for these girls is the massive validation and dopamine hits from the simp attention, and likely a (mostly false) assumption that their whoring antics will maximize their exposure and appeal to 1% chads (it might work for short term hookups, but ruins their long term appeal). I think its very difficult for men to understand this line of thinking in a woman, but I’m just guessing it's something along the equivalent of men going all out and essentially pretending to be rich for a short period of time, in the hopes of faking it until they make it, and landing enough 8+ lays to validate their own worth. Women are just terrible at weighing cause and effect, and they can’t comprehend the negative aftermath in the midst of massive short term gratification. I’m surprised there aren’t more female drug addicts, but part of that might be explained by their absolute fear of social ostracization.
The money is nice, but fundamentally they are attracted to the attention / social fame / etc. It's why they are attracted like flies to honey to things like faceberg and twatter. They don't make any money off of virtue signaling, but they receive social credit, which is far more valuable. I did an article on chaturbate a few years back, and I understand the participants are making some money doing pornography now, but that wasn't really the case back then, at least not for the vast majority of sluts.

Bottom line: It's not about the money, but of course if you can make money doing it then some people turn to doing it full time, which is orders of magnitude more degenerate than a girl secretly and silently sending a topless photo on her snapchat on the downlow. It has created the whole phenomenon of "sex work" (outside of streetwalkers which of course have always existed)

And anyway you can't apply any logical or rational model to women's choices and behavior because biologically that's not how they operate.
 
They don't make any money off of virtue signaling, but they receive social credit, which is far more valuable.
What virtually every married man I know understands (even if they aren't red pill): Women simply don't view money as a unit of work the way a man typically does. It's why any career related to finance/money management is still overwhelmingly male outside of the obligatory hot sales girl types. The concept of money is completely synthetic and mostly irrelevant to them.

Their perceived status in their workplace or social circles are what really drives them, because deep down, the modern "independent woman" is all just a facade. Women entering the workforce wasn't any sort of equality movement. It was simply an emerging middle class of idle young women that didn't want or need to settle for the neighborhood beta, and saw the burgeoning opportunity to access pools of high status men with minimal female competition. This of course opened the flood gates because we all know how ravenous and jealous women can be if they see a counterpart successfully optimizing their SMV.
 

kosko

Peacock
Gold Member
Belle Delphine is literally not even that attractive. Sorry.
That is part of her appeal as she is the degraded NSFW version of the girl next door or weirdo girl from the lecture.

I do think she looks like a premature goat, but that is just me.
The money is nice, but fundamentally they are attracted to the attention / social fame / etc. It's why they are attracted like flies to honey to things like faceberg and twatter. They don't make any money off of virtue signaling, but they receive social credit, which is far more valuable. I did an article on chaturbate a few years back, and I understand the participants are making some money doing pornography now, but that wasn't really the case back then, at least not for the vast majority of sluts.

Bottom line: It's not about the money, but of course if you can make money doing it then some people turn to doing it full time, which is orders of magnitude more degenerate than a girl secretly and silently sending a topless photo on her snapchat on the downlow. It has created the whole phenomenon of "sex work" (outside of streetwalkers which of course have always existed)

And anyway you can't apply any logical or rational model to women's choices and behavior because biologically that's not how they operate.

No. It's all for the money.

A woman can get attention and fame very easy/free in 2020. A woman taking the path of whoredom on Only Fans is purely for monetary purposes. There is no such reality where a woman has to shoulder the resource burden when it comes to sex - this is solely within the men's domain. If a woman is choosing to dive into that realm, it is solely for the monetary gains (unless she is in such a rough spot she has no other options - an example, an intellectually weak girl who is an HS dropout and realizes that sex work is her only "path of least resistance" towards a six-figure income).

For example, no exotic dancer woman will ever tell you she enjoys being a stripper because she likes to dance. She will tell you very bluntly she enjoys it because of the money - the performance aspect may come 2nd or 3rd, but the chief motivation is money. Women want their resources - no need to think otherwise that it is anything else (If the woman truly enjoyed dance - and that was the sole focus - she would be a go-go dancer in a normal nightclub or a cheerleader as many of those girls are former dancers with technical dance training).

Women may be clueless about the biological clock regarding their own finite attractiveness. Still, they know the power it yields in acting as a magnet towards men (some don't know how to handle the power, some girls exploit it). Some women connect the dots on how this can be tied to monetary gains, and if she has no hang-ups on the moral or social implications, she is off to the races to create an Only Fans account.

Only Fans represent the nexus of attention and thirst that is packaged into a monetized package. It is a tool for women to commoditize and control thirst and not much else. The platform is built like a Casino/Gaming site with booby traps and rewards for men as they dive into different thirst levels. Women like it as it gives them max control, all tied within a monetized funnel, while men get sucked in because of the "intimacy" it provides with the various dopamine traps it has built-in.

The worst part of Only Fans is that it is normalizing sex work and further commoditizing male-female relations. I don't remember if I mentioned this already, but this was always by dark prediction of how things would devolve here in the West as traditional male-female relations crashed further and further into the dumps. It will continue to erode into a pure transaction type environment until it hits rock bottom.

Prediction: Next up, you won't be able to message girls on these dating apps without credits - wait - it will come soon. First, it will start as the credits will be used to "get attention," Next, you won't be able even to message at all unless you send a credit/gift.
 
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