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Talus

Newbie
Many girls are signing up cause some cam girls are boasting about how much they are making with OF, Patreon and Manyvids. But there has got to be a saturation point. Even without the corona related economic downturn, how many e-thots can the economy support?
With UBI starting to seem inevitable, I'd say this subsector will only grow. Add in the the force multipliers of digital currencies (micropayments) and recurring stay at home orders, and it has all the steam it needs.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
I'm going to be honest. It strikes me as a pervert finding a way to behave in a spiteful manner while indulging his perversion. Or in other words it's a deviant's way to have power over someone they couldn't posses in real life.

When gamma males go bad.

What does soliciting the photos and forwarding them achieve that couldn't be achieved by simply sending those people a link to her onlyfans user page? This person is not interested in building a better world or curing infernal infection. They are lashing out in anger at their own position in life.

I no longer see this kind of hate/mischief-driven conduct as conducive to anything except more evil. Nobody does this sort of stuff with Christ in their heart.
 

Batman_

Woodpecker
What bothers me most about sites like onlyfans isn't the camwhores doing it, but the men. The worst offenders are men who parrot the feminist narratives and act like these women are angels, suggesting that only angry incels/neckbeards should care what a liberated women does with her body.

And on another note, I actually think the camwhores are worse than hookers in some ways, because they're taking advantage of loser men and offering them nothing in return.
 
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kel

Kingfisher
All of this stems from men, ultimately. The battle must be fought on both fronts, shaming the "women" who do it is still important especially given how much more susceptible women are to shame than men (though the losers who support this stuff aren't exactly overflowing with masculinity), but ultimately women only do what men allow and encourage.
 
The vast majority make essentially nothing (compared to the time they put into it), just like most YouTubers or instagram influencers don't make anything or even end up spending a lot of money and coming out in the red. For everyone one Pewdiepie or Belle Delphine there are myriad nobodies you never hear about who racked up credit card debt to go nowhere.
I half agree with you here

The girls who use onlyfans do make money. Although it's nothing significant, not a sustainable form of income in the long run and will turn out to be a massive mental and emotional drawback for them as the years go by.

At best they will have made money through which they paid off some of their student loan debt. however the drawback here is that they will eventually be outed by friends or family shaming them for the rest of their lives. Yeah that 20 second video of you pleasuring yourself online has probably been saved and uploaded to an x rated site by some hedonist somewhere. Good luck getting a decent job or being respected by your own family now. This reminds me of a story a while back where a trainee police officer in New York was outed as being a dominatrix in the past and promptly fired. The College campuses obviously don't teach these broads the meaning of consequences and how engaging in sleazy activity will affect them in later life.

At Worst the onlyfans camgirl lifestyle will consume them. They will believe in their own hubris and be encouraged by their subscriber base, the feminist "you go girl" crowd or in some cases (if things are really messed up) their own family to engage in more sicker forms of debauchery and basically make their career posting x rated smut on onlyfans. Not only that but it will probably lead them to the dreaded path of actual sex work and fetish club practices where STD's and HIV await and which is controlled by and for the global mafia. Who control's that "mafia"? Well all I gotta say it does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Once they get to that stage it is almost impossible to get out from the darkness that they have been consumed by. There is a reason why Prostitutes rarely live past the age of 40

So there is some money to be made but it comes with terrible consequences. If you have always wondered what the meaning of "selling your sole to devil" really means then look no further than the global sex industry.
 
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gework

Pelican
Gold Member
I think there's something to this. To them it's easy and doesn't feel like making pornography or being a prostitute standing on the curb, at least not right away. There's a deception, though, as to how harmful it is to their souls. It also opens doors to more dangerous places. When college newspapers, along with popular culture, pushes this type of behavior, I completely understand why more women try it.
This has been a long time coming.

A while back I was looking at some songs that were popular when I was a pre-teen. Given I dropped out of popular culture 18 years ago I forgot about it. But it's full of sexual content that was broadcast all day every day while I was a child. Booty calls, mackin', hooking up with multiple women. I remember kids singing songs when I was six about sex.

Only Fans is a step up from Miley Cyrus nude with a dildo. These girls can think they are classier than her.

Yesterday I saw a video I was going to post, until I realised all the participants were eCelebs.


But most of these girls in the video have 500k-1m Instagram followers. A lot have OnlyFans, but all make a living of having men look at them they'd rather not, if not for the money. If you follow the rabbit hole it's a festival on like and flash whoring. This will surely be something we see a hangover from at some point in the future.
 
Many are going to regret this just like the girls in the girlsdoporn case. And these OF girls will have no one else to blame either.

What's sad is that they don't realise how short sighted they are being. None, or at least 99.99% are not going become a millionaire or get FU money. Even if they get 200-300k by the time they finish college what have they really achieved even in materialistic terms.

They can pay off their student loans, do a bit of traveling or buy a starter house. But they could have done all that even without the ethot money. Just a few years later like all their other peers. And without risking their professional aspirations.
 
A general trend in social media I see is social media porn. Regardless of what I think of it from a moral perspective, I think this is just the beginning. Those girls on onlyfans are making money because they are early adopters and ahead of the curve. In ten years time, it will be socially acceptable for women to share softcore or even hardcore porn on social media porn apps. By that time, most will do it out of group pressure or to show off and get quick endorphine doses from people hitting the like button on the sight of her bare breasts, not for money.

Once pornography becomes acceptable for mainstream women, the majority of them will adapt it.
 

ginsu

Sparrow
A general trend in social media I see is social media porn. Regardless of what I think of it from a moral perspective, I think this is just the beginning. Those girls on onlyfans are making money because they are early adopters and ahead of the curve. In ten years time, it will be socially acceptable for women to share softcore or even hardcore porn on social media porn apps. By that time, most will do it out of group pressure or to show off and get quick endorphine doses from people hitting the like button on the sight of her bare breasts, not for money.

Once pornography becomes acceptable for mainstream women, the majority of them will adapt it.
Yes, you're right that seems to be inevitable. Don't remember who said this, might have been on this forum, but they predicted that tinder would just get to the point of sharing pics of the reproductive area.

Maybe it won't reach the point of sharing them publicly on social media but certainly behind some locked doors just like the Onlyfans is. It could be paid for the beta's and free access for chads that girls want to attract.

It's competitive out there. Just like men are told not to play this game, it's equally hard for women Their time investment doesn't return all that much value if you do the math. It is necessary to keep pushing the envelope if all you are offering is yourself as a sexual object and you want to one-up the competition.

The worst thing about this whole devolving of society is that with each step down, the next generation of people ages into it and to them its completely normal. This keeps happening on and on.
 
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Rob Banks

Kingfisher
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What's sad is that they don't realise how short sighted they are being. None, or at least 99.99% are not going become a millionaire or get FU money. Even if they get 200-300k by the time they finish college what have they really achieved even in materialistic terms.
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But they could have done all that even without the ethot money. Just a few years later like all their other peers. And without risking their professional aspirations.
The implication being that if they made more money and didn't risk their "professional aspirations," then it would be OK and it wouldn't be short-sighted?
 

Hypno

Hummingbird
Good lucking people have always gotten more than their fair share of lifes rewards.

Technology, especially since the smart phone and dating apps, have accelerated that trend.

This is just an example of monetizing that status.

People like the incels get upset but all of us on some level resent the disparities that are growing wider and wider. We don't approve of the response but we don't like the phenomenon either.
 
these OF girls will have no one else to blame either.
lol no, they'll blame "predatory sites like OF which lure in impressionable women with promises of wealth, but fail to tell them about the longterm consequences."

There's never going to be a case where a woman has no one to blame.
 
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To be fair, I'd probably sell pictures of my feet if I could.
A while back I was dating a very sheltered girl of nineteen. One time she excitedly told me that one of her friends from church was making a bunch of money selling pictures of her feet. "She gets $15 for each picture," she explained, "and she has a ton of customers. I had no idea why people pay so much for pictures of feet!"
Very carefully, I explained to her what industry her friend was in, and what the pictures are used for. She was horrified. The next wednesday at youth group, she told her friend what was going on. Apparently the "foot model" acted like she had no idea.
 
It's a whole new game now. There was always camgirls but now with the advent of the smart phone it's even easier. Don't even need a computer anymore. Just a premium Snapchat, Onlyfans and a myriad of others. Plus nowadays the younger ones don't have any shame so they don't care.

It is sad though how awful the young girls are today. I happened to come across a couple of message boards/websites that people post these girl's stuff to and the girls are mostly just trash. Bad tattoos, smoking weed, twerking to ghetto rap and they all sound like they have brain damage. Here and there there's some really cute ones but it's sad how busted a lot of them are. Like they're all used up at 22.
 
The implication being that if they made more money and didn't risk their "professional aspirations," then it would be OK and it wouldn't be short-sighted?
I meant to say that explaining the economic reason for not doing this is what could work on these girls. Telling them not to do it by citing religious or any other moral reasoning is not going to work. These girls are already sexually active and are posting bikini pics all over social media. OF is just one step further. The only silver lining to these debauchery is that most of these newbies seem to have started with Playboy style nudes for now. Every few are doing hardcore videos AFAIK.
 

Rob Banks

Kingfisher
I meant to say that explaining the economic reason for not doing this is what could work on these girls. Telling them not to do it by citing religious or any other moral reasoning is not going to work...
OK, but then what would be the point?

Let's say there is a girl who wants to do porn but ONLY chooses not to because the money isn't good enough. Do you think this girl would make a good wife?

The only valid reasons for not doing it are moral reasons.

If it were purely economic ("your career options will be ruined and you won't make enough money for it to be worth it"), then all of a sudden it becomes reasonable. Kind of like how it was reasonable for Roosh to become a non-PC blogger even though it ruined his career opportunities.
 
I think most people on this forum would agree that women will do lots of things relating to sex if society lets them do it. The reason most still don't esp in conservative countries is cause of negative economic consequences and even physical retaliation by angry family and community members (I don't agree with the violence part at all).

Does that mean there are very few genuinely virtuous women? Probably. But the fact that girls can calculate the economic and social consequences of their actions and not indulge in any kind of sex work and debauchery is good enough. So a girl who chooses not to do porn for money is at least a smart girl who can analyze things and will make a good wife.
 
A girl is in reality only as virtuous as the family she was raised under. So obviously if the dad has no moral proclivities or has left the family then the girl subsumes societies ideology. Guys really need to wise up, the girl assumes the identity of the man she's under, or should. Obviously it's a complicated problem, but stems from socio-economics+religion mostly. If no jobs (or they're given over to women) then the men can't provide as breadwinners so there goes the patriarchy, and even if the guy can act as provider (which assumes alot nowadays), then he still has to have some moral backbone.

With 'OnlyFans' or whatever it is, it's female nature to be 'taken care' of. She assumes the roles given to her. Again, if no one is playing 'daddy' government will step in and you'll end up with girls throwing all caution to the wind. It's nothing 'new', what is 'new' here though is simply the technological impact. One has to understand the nonsense which is the internet itself. Computers, the internet in particular, is framing human social interaction. You might be thinking, "we'll yeah, obviously, duh..." but the fact of the matter is anyone online perpetuates the entire vicious cycle. To be blunt here, the internet itself is the main cause for concern, not 'OnlyFans'.

Obviously the selling of self digitally is vulgar and reprehensible and should be done away with, but the internet itself is a porn machine. Don't you guys get it? The internet is structured to flood porn and subdue people. In effect it's a form of slavery. So, while obviously 'OnlyFans' is just another venue for women to copycat each like they always do, they are simply more slaves to the larger prerogative here; namely your entire life is being wasted digitally, literally, and figuratively.
 
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