OnlyFans / Online camgirls

bk19xsa

Robin
The cat is out of the bag. How do you prevent Only Fans from growing unless specific laws are made to ban it, which in the US looks unlikely?

Men are the biggest simps and they are THE market for OF. Let's say majority of the current OF simps do give up OF or become God fearing Men. As soon as that happens the buyers decrease. However, the OF women are going to charge 10$ instead of 100$ and then buyers will again start increasing. The options to mint money from OF using debauchery is endless. The women, when losing suppliers, will offer even more lewd acts. What if some women start selling themselves to the highest bidder or make it a subscription that for each monthly payment they will come to you weekly and 'spend' an hour? The business model can go on and on.

One might argue, well what about an economic collapse? Well, the OF server moves elsewhere and the trade continues. In fact, in hardships more women turn to prostitution and present world there will be OF as their Pimp platform.

We are heading towards a big moral apocalypse. I have written about this long back on this forum that the 'Needle always moves Left'. We need serious divine intervention to stop it or even rein it in.
 

Carolus

Robin
Protestant
I agree. The profits will follow a normal distribution with only a select few making a lot of money.

I bet the higher earning females are prostitutes in real life, not only online.
Yes, for many of these girls, their OF account is more of an ad than direct source of revenue.

Same with instagram. If a girl has lots of bikini pictures and such on her instagram, the odds that it is an advertisement is much higher than most people realize. Often these girls are lying to themselves about it as well since they accept things like free travel, vacations, and gifts instead of cash. I know girls who would be truly and deeply offended by an offer of cash but accept plane tickets, trips to party hotspots, tattoos, and drugs on a regular basis.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Yes, for many of these girls, their OF account is more of an ad than direct source of revenue.

Same with instagram. If a girl has lots of bikini pictures and such on her instagram, the odds that it is an advertisement is much higher than most people realize. Often these girls are lying to themselves about it as well since they accept things like free travel, vacations, and gifts instead of cash. I know girls who would be truly and deeply offended by an offer of cash but accept plane tickets, trips to party hotspots, tattoos, and drugs on a regular basis.
I graduated from high school pre-smartphone, and even then, there was plenty of shady stuff going on terms of girls doing covert sugar babying, "dating" older men and such. I knew girls in college that were getting flown to Vegas by businessmen. I can't imagine how bad it is now.
 

romain

Pigeon
This onlyfans model has made a total of $50 million since joining OF. And she's only 19 years old.


Update 4/26/20: Just in case there were any doubts about her claims, Bhad Bhabie has come back with receipts. In her latest Instagram post, Bhabie backed up her $50 million valuation with a screenshot and video of her OnlyFans earnings show a gross revenue of roughly $53 million with a net revenue of $42 million from April 2021 to April 2022. As some added spice, Bhabie caption the post saying "Go cry about it bitch,” making sure to tag and thank her talent agency as well
 

ed pluribus unum

Ostrich
Protestant
Yes, for many of these girls, their OF account is more of an ad than direct source of revenue.

Same with instagram. If a girl has lots of bikini pictures and such on her instagram, the odds that it is an advertisement is much higher than most people realize. Often these girls are lying to themselves about it as well since they accept things like free travel, vacations, and gifts instead of cash. I know girls who would be truly and deeply offended by an offer of cash but accept plane tickets, trips to party hotspots, tattoos, and drugs on a regular basis.
There's a thread from the "old" RVF titled "Tag the sponsor" that addresses this subject directly. I believe it may still be on here but could contain degenerate content (to illustrate the point, mind you, but still). The purpose of the thread was uncovering all the Instagram "models" and "influencers" touting luxury brands and private jet vacations to Dubai who paid for it all by subjecting themselves to the worst debauchery imaginable (and then some) from the uber-wealthy.
 

Carolus

Robin
Protestant
There's a thread from the "old" RVF titled "Tag the sponsor" that addresses this subject directly. I believe it may still be on here but could contain degenerate content (to illustrate the point, mind you, but still). The purpose of the thread was uncovering all the Instagram "models" and "influencers" touting luxury brands and private jet vacations to Dubai who paid for it all by subjecting themselves to the worst debauchery imaginable (and then some) from the uber-wealthy.
Thing is, it's not just "models" anymore. It's regular college girls with 1k followers. And its not just uber-wealthy men, it's sports players and moderately successful businessmen/professionals with curated instagram profiles. In the mere 12 years between me entering the dating market and now, engaging in amateur prostitution has gone from being disgraceful to being a point of pride among women.

If a girl is an OF "model" or whatever she has elevated status with most young women. None of them realize that, while debauched men will put up with them for sex, these men are entirely uninterested in them for anything else and they cling to the occasional story of a football player with multiple head injuries marring one of them for hope. Many think that they are actually improving their chances of acquiring a high status man due to their behavior putting them into the same rooms with the kind of men they think they deserve.

Based on internet data and my personal experience, I'd say that any good looking female college grad has at least a 20% chance of having engaged in some form of prostitution.
 

traelo

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
This is a step worse than being an OF model, which is essentially a virtual prostitute. Now college girls are becoming actual prostitutes.



Imagine spending 75K a year to send your daughter to Stanford and she's turning tricks on the side.

Sending a daughter to college in general is a bad idea, even if she doesn't become a literal whore, since the degeneracy is so rampant on college campuses she'll just end up engaging in fornication for free. I assume those girls were already engaging in fornication and figured they wanted to monetize their degeneracy with creepy old rich dudes, digusting.
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
This is a step worse than being an OF model, which is essentially a virtual prostitute. Now college girls are becoming actual prostitutes.



Imagine spending 75K a year to send your daughter to Stanford and she's turning tricks on the side.

This is actually worse than “real” sugar babying. She’s manipulating poor, lonely, likely autistic men. At least traditional sugar babying involves a mutual transaction and mutual risk (married men and young women that both want it secret). These guys are basically just being scammed by her. Any good autist will be able to track her down via clues in the background of her videos, and very easily if she reveals where she goes to school or grew up. How much you wanna bet she is recycling her user names across socials? Again, very easy to dig and put everything together. It’s downright dangerous and opens her up for blackmail and revenge porn for the rest if her life. Many of these men she is dealing with are desperate losers with little to lose.
 

8ball

Pelican
Catholic
Soft prostitution has become the norm for dating. Young men without good incomes have never had it harder to date. Young attractive girls would rather “share” a higher status man then date a regular guy. The US will soon approach Japanese level of incels.

It pretty much goes something like this for attractive girls:

1. She realizes in teen years that she grabs attention from most men. In a worsening obesity crisis, worsening demographics, worsening general health she stands out.

2. Creates instagram profile, immediately notices she recieves more likes than her ugly friends, likes from school/college, grown adult men and women, overseas men especially from countries where this is uncommon or not allowed.

3. Is DMd by guys, photographers, videographers, production companies, other “artists” fairly regularly to “collaborate”, she is now exposed to the artsy influencer world. Depending on how attractive she is, she will get anywhere from scams to very legitimate offers.

4. She receives some money for some collaboration work, a modeling or promo event. Likes the idea of getting paid for this work and immediately eliminates any thoughts about a proper career. This here is where the first line is crossed. She has sex with an influencer, artist, or whoever paid her.

5. The first batch of money quickly runs out so she decides to post more provocative photos and videos in the hope of grabbing more attention.

6. She gets her first open box video promo after increasing # of followers. Gets paid simply for trying on a product, recording it with her phone from her bedroom. Huge rush, she feels like she is on top of the world.

7. She quickly hits a wall financially and her online engagement has plateaued and realizes she cant keep up with lip fills, clothes, taning, bikini wax etc. Here is where she crosses the second like - she joins a sugardaddy site.

8. At first she is thrilled with the initial perception, however after searching and talking to many prospects she realizes she may have overestimated her worth. Her intial assessment of simply talking and keeping men company was wrong and she realizes that to make any money she should have to have sex with these men. Bills are piling and she does. She is now an instagram whore, who lives for likes, comments and is willing to have sex with older men in order to keep this up.

8. After a year or more of provocative short videos, pics, trying anything to be relevant, 8 different men from the site, she is completely unrecognizable from pre-instagram whore version of herself. She is tired of trying to lock a new sugardaddy, they keep pumping and dumping and its never as it should be. As a way to remedy the situation she decided to join only fans with the hope of transfering some of her followers as paid subs in exchange for showing her full self and more.

9. After 4 months of new full frontal content, she has only managed to convert a few of her followers and is making as much as working as Starbucks for the hours she is putting in. Bills have piled up and all of her credit cards are back. The guy thats giving her free weed left town. She decides to go back to the sugerdaddy route, this time she is open to meeting a rich guy to “invest” in her dreams.

10. 3 years pass by she is in mid to late 20s, she is still an instagram whore, with an only fans account, with a semi regular sugardaddy, who lives alone with her dog. She has no normal friends, addicted to anxiety meds, addicted to weed, never has any money, no future. She sees other girls from her childhood thar have taken a more righteous pass who are now married or engaged to be married and envy and anger take hold of her. She numbs the pain with more weed and meds until cognitive dissonance takes over.

This is the story of about 95% of these girls. Its incredibly difficult to make a living going this route. For every “success” there is 1000 failures, and this isnt a bar exam failure, its a horrific experience that lasts.

This will get worse before it gets better, there will be a generation of women that gets destroyed, the men as well from collateral damage. Fortunately the market corrects itself and the push back will lead to a generation of influencers doing the exact opposite.
 

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
Soft prostitution has become the norm for dating. Young men without good incomes have never had it harder to date. Young attractive girls would rather “share” a higher status man then date a regular guy. The US will soon approach Japanese level of incels.

It pretty much goes something like this for attractive girls:

1. She realizes in teen years that she grabs attention from most men. In a worsening obesity crisis, worsening demographics, worsening general health she stands out.

2. Creates instagram profile, immediately notices she recieves more likes than her ugly friends, likes from school/college, grown adult men and women, overseas men especially from countries where this is uncommon or not allowed.

3. Is DMd by guys, photographers, videographers, production companies, other “artists” fairly regularly to “collaborate”, she is now exposed to the artsy influencer world. Depending on how attractive she is, she will get anywhere from scams to very legitimate offers.

4. She receives some money for some collaboration work, a modeling or promo event. Likes the idea of getting paid for this work and immediately eliminates any thoughts about a proper career. This here is where the first line is crossed. She has sex with an influencer, artist, or whoever paid her.

5. The first batch of money quickly runs out so she decides to post more provocative photos and videos in the hope of grabbing more attention.

6. She gets her first open box video promo after increasing # of followers. Gets paid simply for trying on a product, recording it with her phone from her bedroom. Huge rush, she feels like she is on top of the world.

7. She quickly hits a wall financially and her online engagement has plateaued and realizes she cant keep up with lip fills, clothes, taning, bikini wax etc. Here is where she crosses the second like - she joins a sugardaddy site.

8. At first she is thrilled with the initial perception, however after searching and talking to many prospects she realizes she may have overestimated her worth. Her intial assessment of simply talking and keeping men company was wrong and she realizes that to make any money she should have to have sex with these men. Bills are piling and she does. She is now an instagram whore, who lives for likes, comments and is willing to have sex with older men in order to keep this up.

8. After a year or more of provocative short videos, pics, trying anything to be relevant, 8 different men from the site, she is completely unrecognizable from pre-instagram whore version of herself. She is tired of trying to lock a new sugardaddy, they keep pumping and dumping and its never as it should be. As a way to remedy the situation she decided to join only fans with the hope of transfering some of her followers as paid subs in exchange for showing her full self and more.

9. After 4 months of new full frontal content, she has only managed to convert a few of her followers and is making as much as working as Starbucks for the hours she is putting in. Bills have piled up and all of her credit cards are back. The guy thats giving her free weed left town. She decides to go back to the sugerdaddy route, this time she is open to meeting a rich guy to “invest” in her dreams.

10. 3 years pass by she is in mid to late 20s, she is still an instagram whore, with an only fans account, with a semi regular sugardaddy, who lives alone with her dog. She has no normal friends, addicted to anxiety meds, addicted to weed, never has any money, no future. She sees other girls from her childhood thar have taken a more righteous pass who are now married or engaged to be married and envy and anger take hold of her. She numbs the pain with more weed and meds until cognitive dissonance takes over.

This is the story of about 95% of these girls. Its incredibly difficult to make a living going this route. For every “success” there is 1000 failures, and this isnt a bar exam failure, its a horrific experience that lasts.

This will get worse before it gets better, there will be a generation of women that gets destroyed, the men as well from collateral damage. Fortunately the market corrects itself and the push back will lead to a generation of influencers doing the exact opposite.

Then frame 11 drops.

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Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
This above post also answers something that was posted here, or another thread. It was specifically, why do men pay for videotaped evidence of prostitution or cam girls etc.? My answer to this was something like - the same reason that some men pay for prostitutes who do "girlfriend experience". Society is full of men who want to know what it is like to be desired by an artificially beautiful woman. Someone who probably spends 2+ hours a day and $10K-20K per year on their appearance.

I've seen complete betas who go to prostitution conferences and they post things in their Twitter bio like, "I love beautiful women. I care for them and respect them very much." There are some of these men who sink so low as to think that one of these prostitutes might suddenly take an avid interest in them if they act as a cash or simp reservoir. Nothing else has worked, why not try.

This is not generosity, it's not charity, it's the huge price that some men are willing to pay for an outside chance at an intimate relationship with an artificially beautiful woman.

As has been said, we need to shut down all simping until we find out what the hell is going on.
 

Cuchulainn2016

Kingfisher
This above post also answers something that was posted here, or another thread. It was specifically, why do men pay for videotaped evidence of prostitution or cam girls etc.? My answer to this was something like - the same reason that some men pay for prostitutes who do "girlfriend experience". Society is full of men who want to know what it is like to be desired by an artificially beautiful woman. Someone who probably spends 2+ hours a day and $10K-20K per year on their appearance.

I've seen complete betas who go to prostitution conferences and they post things in their Twitter bio like, "I love beautiful women. I care for them and respect them very much." There are some of these men who sink so low as to think that one of these prostitutes might suddenly take an avid interest in them if they act as a cash or simp reservoir. Nothing else has worked, why not try.

This is not generosity, it's not charity, it's the huge price that some men are willing to pay for an outside chance at an intimate relationship with an artificially beautiful woman.

As has been said, we need to shut down all simping until we find out what the hell is going on.
I have to ask, what is a "prostitution conference"?
 

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
I have to ask, what is a "prostitution conference"?

I prefer not to use the usual term that is used to describe nude images and videos of fornication. There is far too much rolled up in it. It's like a burning pit of lowest common denominators, adorned by gaudy sirens, luring you into something the equvilant of a spiritual pub crawl. It is embibed with the modern concept of, oh, it's a bit naughty, but it's good for you. Don't be like one of those Christian conservatives, suppressing it all. They're probably all into BDSM and kinks. What is your kink? It's devoid that someone may be able to transcend these impulses.

So, a prostitution conference is a conference where women who are paid to fornicate on camera go and meet the simps who coom to them all day and sub to their only fans.

And since most of those women are also escorts, from whom shooting is a way to increase their fee for Johns, why not.

Here's a collage.

 

Cuchulainn2016

Kingfisher
I prefer not to use the usual term that is used to describe nude images and videos of fornication. There is far too much rolled up in it. It's like a burning pit of lowest common denominators, adorned by gaudy sirens, luring you into something the equvilant of a spiritual pub crawl. It is embibed with the modern concept of, oh, it's a bit naughty, but it's good for you. Don't be like one of those Christian conservatives, suppressing it all. They're probably all into BDSM and kinks. What is your kink? It's devoid that someone may be able to transcend these impulses.

So, a prostitution conference is a conference where women who are paid to fornicate on camera go and meet the simps who coom to them all day and sub to their only fans.

And since most of those women are also escorts, from whom shooting is a way to increase their fee for Johns, why not.

Here's a collage.


A, ok, you mean a convention for pornography then.

I was wondering what new technologies for hookers they might have each year that could be shown off at a conference, or maybe they have a pimp competition.

No offence, but personally I prefer to say exactly what I mean, to avoid any confusion. Words and images should hold no fear for a man, whether they have strong religious convictions or not, if they are a man.

It's a little bit of a trend appearing on the forum, where people are afraid to say what they mean, due to fear of censure, or perhaps fear of offense. Men are men, and should converse like it.
 

Cynllo

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
A, ok, you mean a convention for pornography then.

I was wondering what new technologies for hookers they might have each year that could be shown off at a conference, or maybe they have a pimp competition.

No offence, but personally I prefer to say exactly what I mean, to avoid any confusion. Words and images should hold no fear for a man, whether they have strong religious convictions or not, if they are a man.

It's a little bit of a trend appearing on the forum, where people are afraid to say what they mean, due to fear of censure, or perhaps fear of offense. Men are men, and should converse like it.

I'm looking for a word that can be used instead of the p-word, which will reduce it to a lowly state of mockery. For people who watch it (beta!), we have the term - coomer, or as it often appears - cooooomer. This is like "soy boy". It's light, soft, fluffy and ridiculous. There are other words you can call people, like the c-word, that are very harsh in sound and hence connotation. I think these soft word are good for making something ridiculous and ostracising it.

When I was in school, a big thing was flushing people's heads down the toilet. I can imagine people having their heads flushed down the toilet, while someone lords over them, "Look at little Moley! Little Moley with his little cooom mags! If you don't stop coooooming, you'll go blind."

Bullying is inevitable, so we may as well redirect it to masturbators. I have read that masturbation was once publicly shamed, with people saying that it will make you grow hair on your hands. This is exactly the sort of thing we need to bring back. That it's not true is even better. I've also seen an old book that has a diagram of two men. One is a man of upstanding constitution and posture, the other is a wizened and surly looking man, addicted to masturbation.

I'm not looking to avoid offence, I am looking to offend and ridicule all coomers, worldwide.

Since there is no such word as of yet I use "videotaped evidence of prostitution" (which I got from @Aurini).
 

Blade Runner

Hummingbird
Orthodox
This is the story of about 95% of these girls. Its incredibly difficult to make a living going this route. For every “success” there is 1000 failures, and this isnt a bar exam failure, its a horrific experience that lasts.

This will get worse before it gets better, there will be a generation of women that gets destroyed, the men as well from collateral damage. Fortunately the market corrects itself and the push back will lead to a generation of influencers doing the exact opposite.
That's a remarkable analysis, in that I'm quite sure it's very close to reality, if not an exact trajectory for most.

Notice that the denial of a woman to take advantage of her highest value days (early 20s) is also along these lines for the "normal" girls that just ride the carousel (another form of spaced out ho'ing, I say). For every girl that got lucky and finally decided to marry a guy at age 27, or wait and get bailed out at age 32, there are 1000s that are paid no mind after age 26, where girls lose their looks and fertility, precipitously. By the way, I dated a girl in my professional training for a short term (before realizing she was crazy) who exuded sexuality and was 25-26. If I had the older man mentality now and didn't care (was actually innocent back then, not that I'm indifferent to people now), I would have given her what she wanted. But I suspect she wanted to corrupt the younger version of me and control/manipulate me. What's more? The rack was sloppy by that mid 20s age. Looking back I always laughed about how weirdly disappointed I was in that. I wondered if that was modern picture/porn/too much sexuality that led to my expectations, and thus disappointment in that figure, that wasn't bad, but wasn't the 18-20 year old ideal (or her 18 yo self, either, which maybe was the point). What's funny about the girl in question here is that she "wised up" about 2 years later and locked down a professional as she was approaching 30 who was on the spectrum of simp ... but ultimately had I think 1 kid with her. LOL, the "make the best out of this now" scenario to have $ and be able to control the guy. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she cheated on him, but I have no reason to believe this except for what I know about her general mischief.
 
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