News Orthodox response to Coronavirus / Great Reset

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
PRAISE GOD! ALL GLORY TO GOD!

Please read this directive from Metropolitan Joseph. REJOICE with me, my brothers!



May 14, 2021

Christ is Risen!

I pray you and your parishes had a blessed Pascha and Bright Week. In light of the announcement by the CDC yesterday saying that people who have been vaccinated no longer need to wear masks and social distance, whether indoors or outdoors, and in light of the reality that most every adult who wants to be vaccinated has had the opportunity to be vaccinated, we are lifting all requirements to wear masks and social distance in our churches in the United States of America. Nevertheless, those who choose to continue wearing masks in the church should not be discouraged IN ANY WAY from doing so. The only thing we ask is that if you have any high risk people in your parishes who are unable to be vaccinated for medical reasons that you make every effort to accommodate them by having a small area of the church, where they can still social distance and wear masks, set aside in order for them to feel safe.

Additionally, in light of the new CDC recommendations, choirs, church schools, coffee hours and social functions, hall rentals, meetings, etc. may also resume as each parish determines it is the appropriate time, but no later than the beginning of the new ecclesiastical year in September. For those parishes needing to move more slowly, we ask that you implement the changes in the sanctuary immediately, and then slowly transition with the other items mentioned above. Of course, our parishes in Canada continue to be restricted by the civil authorities and we pray we will have the same good news for them in the near future.

Wishing you and all the faithful a blessed Paschal season, I remain,

Your Father in the Risen Lord,

+JOSEPH
Archbishop of New York and Metropolitan of all North America
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
It's unfortunate he made this decision based on the secular "authorities" and not Church teaching, but it's a step in the right direction. You love to see it!
The Metropolitan is very loosely interpreting CDC guidelines, which say that only the vaccinated need not wear masks indoors.

Notice that Joseph does not mandate vaccination, for participation, anywhere in his directive.

It is subtle, but there is an element of malicious compliance here.

At any rate, Glory to God in the highest! Peace to His People on Earth! CHRIST IS RISEN!
 
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lasunsets

Pigeon
So I'm a Catholic but I visit Orthodox (both Eastern and Oriental) Churches often here in the LA area. Before March 2020, I often went to St. Sophia Greek Orthodox Church here in LA. If you have been here, you know that this is one of the most beautiful churches in America. The interior is stunning. The reason I say this is because I went on their website to check what is going on there and saw the following in the bulletin,

"The Los Angeles County Health Department has allowed houses of worship to offer faith-based services both indoors and outdoors with mandatory physical distancing and face coverings over both the nose and mouth that must be worn at all times while on site both inside the Cathedral and outside in the parking lot. Divine Liturgy will take place inside the church. Seats will be available inside and outside the cathedral. Only the number of Liturgy attendees that can be accommodated with proper distancing in the marked lines on the pews will be allowed inside the church. MASKS ARE MANDATORY inside and outside the parking lot. No one will be allowed on the Saint Sophia property without a mask. If anyone removes their mask outside of taking the Holy Communion, they will be requested to leave and escorted outside the premises."


Apparently, you're not even allowed on the property if you don't put on a mask and if you refuse you will be escorted! Incredible. It's fitting though since it's a parish that has several wealthy individuals and henceforth many I'm sure love this world more than they love Christ and the next life.

I would venture to say that they would escort St. Paisios or St. Porphyrios out if they came to that church for we know that these holy men would never wear a mask.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
So I'm a Catholic but I visit Orthodox (both Eastern and Oriental) Churches often here in the LA area. Before March 2020, I often went to St. Sophia Greek Orthodox Church here in LA. If you have been here, you know that this is one of the most beautiful churches in America. The interior is stunning. The reason I say this is because I went on their website to check what is going on there and saw the following in the bulletin,

"The Los Angeles County Health Department has allowed houses of worship to offer faith-based services both indoors and outdoors with mandatory physical distancing and face coverings over both the nose and mouth that must be worn at all times while on site both inside the Cathedral and outside in the parking lot. Divine Liturgy will take place inside the church. Seats will be available inside and outside the cathedral. Only the number of Liturgy attendees that can be accommodated with proper distancing in the marked lines on the pews will be allowed inside the church. MASKS ARE MANDATORY inside and outside the parking lot. No one will be allowed on the Saint Sophia property without a mask. If anyone removes their mask outside of taking the Holy Communion, they will be requested to leave and escorted outside the premises."


Apparently, you're not even allowed on the property if you don't put on a mask and if you refuse you will be escorted! Incredible. It's fitting though since it's a parish that has several wealthy individuals and henceforth many I'm sure love this world more than they love Christ and the next life.

I would venture to say that they would escort St. Paisios or St. Porphyrios out if they came to that church for we know that these holy men would never wear a mask.
St. Sophia appears to be GOARCH, which is a somewhat pozzed church within Eastern Orthodoxy.

This has already been discussed at length on the forum: if you want a more traditional EO church that is open to converts, look for the Antiochian and ROCOR parishes.
 

lasunsets

Pigeon
St. Sophia appears to be GOARCH, which is a somewhat pozzed church within Eastern Orthodoxy.

This has already been discussed at length on the forum: if you want a more traditional EO church that is open to converts, look for the Antiochian and ROCOR parishes.

Noted. I went to a smaller Antiochian church on Holy Friday and it was packed, no masks, and no distancing. It was glorious and it felt so right to be with others who had the same sentiments as me. The priest of that parish will be rewarded by God for not allowing fear to win over Christ.

Christ is Risen!
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Noted. I went to a smaller Antiochian church on Holy Friday and it was packed, no masks, and no distancing. It was glorious and it felt so right to be with others who had the same sentiments as me. The priest of that parish will be rewarded by God for not allowing fear to win over Christ.

Christ is Risen!
Truly, He is Risen!
 

LightofApollo

Sparrow
Woman
St. Sophia appears to be GOARCH, which is a somewhat pozzed church within Eastern Orthodoxy.
Erasmus, we are SO pozzed, not just somewhat pozzed. Utterly, hopelessly, beyond-the-line pozzed where I've come to the point that I've sworn never to set foot inside another GOARCH church so long as I live.
When this nonsense first started, they turned me away from the cup. I cried in the parking lot and drove home. I thought to myself, surely this was a misstep. Surely they'll come to do the right thing, if we are truly the Orthodoxy.
I went back one more time to the ghastly site of temperature checks and masks. When I took communion, it stuck in my throat, like a barb. As I was leaving the church, some of the laypeople immediately voiced their displeasure at the time I was taking to escort my elderly mother through the door. That was the one that got my Greek up the most.
Three strikes. They are out.
Hearing about this Antiochian church has refreshed my hope. I was ready to not step foot into any institution ever again, and the thought of having to do so was wounding my soul. It's too late for me this week (I'd have to find a place within the next hour and a half...) but hopefully I can find an Antiochian or non-compliant ROCOR church in my area that is maskless and vaxless, consequences be damned for the glory of the One who saves.

I am a Greek, a lifelong attendant to the GOARCH, and I swear, here and now, never to step foot inside another GO church that isn't Antiochian. Take that as an endorsement to any who hear to stay far away from the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Anywhere.
I hope they read this and Kazantzakis me. That'll free me even more up to find an actual functional church unwilling to bend the knee to secular psychopaths.
I'm ashamed of my church. May God guide me to one that shames me.

Xristos Anesti / Christ Has Risen!
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Erasmus, we are SO pozzed, not just somewhat pozzed. Utterly, hopelessly, beyond-the-line pozzed where I've come to the point that I've sworn never to set foot inside another GOARCH church so long as I live.
When this nonsense first started, they turned me away from the cup. I cried in the parking lot and drove home. I thought to myself, surely this was a misstep. Surely they'll come to do the right thing, if we are truly the Orthodoxy.
I went back one more time to the ghastly site of temperature checks and masks. When I took communion, it stuck in my throat, like a barb. As I was leaving the church, some of the laypeople immediately voiced their displeasure at the time I was taking to escort my elderly mother through the door. That was the one that got my Greek up the most.
Three strikes. They are out.
Hearing about this Antiochian church has refreshed my hope. I was ready to not step foot into any institution ever again, and the thought of having to do so was wounding my soul. It's too late for me this week (I'd have to find a place within the next hour and a half...) but hopefully I can find an Antiochian or non-compliant ROCOR church in my area that is maskless and vaxless, consequences be damned for the glory of the One who saves.

I am a Greek, a lifelong attendant to the GOARCH, and I swear, here and now, never to step foot inside another GO church that isn't Antiochian. Take that as an endorsement to any who hear to stay far away from the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Anywhere.
I hope they read this and Kazantzakis me. That'll free me even more up to find an actual functional church unwilling to bend the knee to secular psychopaths.
I'm ashamed of my church. May God guide me to one that shames me.

Xristos Anesti / Christ Has Risen!

This was beautifully written, thanks. What you write of the GOARCH seems all too familiar here in Canada as well. I guess the Ecumenical Patriarchate is going full globalist.

Truly, Christ is Risen! May God bless you my brother as you find a new parish.
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Orthodox
The COVID pandemic was no accident, and the way the vaccines are being imposed so dictatorially reveals a more sinister purpose at play, Archimandrite Philotheos, abbot of the Athonite Karakallou Monastery, the latest Athonite elder to address the topic, says in a newly-released video.

“We sense that the coming of this pandemic was no accident, and in fact, that it was manufactured. And then came the vaccine, supposedly ‘to suppress the pandemic,’ but we sense that this is all being directed, is artificial, in order to achieve what they want—their ultimate purpose,” the Athonite elder says.

“And we can see in the way they are now imposing the vaccine that the dark forces have their ultimate goal. We have also been prepared for this by the Revelation of St. John the Evangelist, and we have been warned by the Apostolic Fathers who speak of the days of the Antichrist,” Abbot Philotheos continues.

This ultimate goal and purpose is the “future sealing,” Fr. Philotheos explains. “And they’re preparing for all this now. So we see in what a dictatorial way they are trying to push the vaccine! With what brainwashing from the media and the internet! And we know they’re paying the reporters, the channels, and all that.”

“They abolish democracy, abolish human rights, abolish so many things these days. How do they reconcile all this? Under the pretext, of course, of the pandemic that they have produced,” the abbot says.

“They are already saying that the coronavirus will come even stronger in the autumn so they can influence the rest of the people! But all this troubles us and causes us, justifiably of course, to be suspicious. And that is why we see the work of the devil behind all of this,” Fr. Philotheos warns.

“We hope in the enlightenment of God and in the goodwill of many Christians and intelligent people who see this and resist it and sense that something is happening behind it all. And as you can see, many things will be revealed. The grace of God will reveal them.”

“That’s why we are pained and worried to see this situation now, and we implore God’s grace and the Panagia to guard her people, God’s people,” the elder concludes.

Several other Athonite elders have made several warnings, including Elder Parthenios, the abbot of St. Paul’s Monastery, Elder Euthymius of the Holy Resurrection Kallyva in Kapsala, who was a disciple of St. Paisios, Elder Gabriel of the Kelli of St. Christodoulos of Patmos, also a spiritual child of St. Paisios, and Elder Paul of Vouleftiria, a doctor of molecular biology and biomedicine.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Brothers, I am deeply distressed and my heart has sank within me.

Orthodox parishes in Canada -- even ROCOR and Antiochian -- appear to be fully compliant with secular authorities. The masks don't bother me as much as the capacity restrictions: it has been difficult for me, my wife and my children to attend church, and partake of the Eucharist.

My priest has also told us it's fine to get the vaccines, and has even encouraged us to do so. He dismissed the 'nonsense' from Athonite monks about vaccines being part of a conspiracy. The laity at my parish appear to be okay with masks/vaccines/distancing. They're mostly converts who are 'typical Canadians,' if you know what I mean.

Bishop Alexander of Montreal appears to be on board with the Covid agenda: he sent out a Pascha message suggesting as much.

My question is: aside from deepening my prayer life and attempting to partake of the sacraments, what can I do as a layperson about this state of affairs?
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
:(


Granted, this is with one of the two Russian vaccines: one of these is a traditional attenuated virus vaccine, and so is basically the equivalent of drinking sugar water (from my understanding).
 
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