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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emperor Constantine" data-source="post: 1320944" data-attributes="member: 16623">Samseau, where do you draw the line? For example, was it okay for Christians to hold secret services in the catacombs when the Romans banned Christianity outright? I agree that in a lot of places we can work our way around the law, like with drive-in masses. And I'm with you that it would be very good if we did something like this instead of not giving people the Eucharist. But when the state's laws and God's laws are in conflict, I struggle to see any Biblical basis for obeying the state instead. And that's the situation we're in now. For example, James 5:14-15 instructs priests to anoint and pray over the sick, and state law in many places are not allowing that.</blockquote>