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<blockquote data-quote="Stoyan" data-source="post: 1592024" data-attributes="member: 24958"><p>I've always thought that the Russian-Japanese war was very unnecessary, and it actually indirectly led to the collapse of the Russian Empire, and the Communist coup. In my opinion, no event in modern history changed the world more than the revolution of 1917. And yet it was caused by the Russian-Japanese war. The Communist coup actually should have occurred earlier in history. In 1905 was the first Russian Revolution, but it was suppressed by the Tsarist government. However they could not stop 1917 from happening.</p><p></p><p>Before Nikolai II Romanov became the Tsar, he took a trip to Japan with his cousin, George the Prince of Greece. While there, he visited some Buddhist monastery. One of the priests there gave him a prophecy: if you will go to war with Japan, your country will be destroyed and you will be killed together with your family. I don't know if he heeded the prophecy or not, but apparently God decided that the heir to the Russian throne didn't learn what he needed to learn, so another event occurred. While Nikolai was walking with George through the streets of Tokyo, a samurai had crept behind him, and tried to hit Nikolai onto the head with his katana. However George had a quick reaction, and he deflected the sword with his cane. It seems obvious to anyone that these two signs give you a very serious and obvious message: Do not go to war with Japan! Also there is evidence that Russian Orthodox priests gave Nikolai a similar prophecy.</p><p></p><p>I agree with St. Nicholas of Japan, the Russian-Japanese war was completely unnecessary. Before the war, Russia had everything that it needed to build a prosperous empire. At that time, the quantity of territory was established, now the time was to increate the quality. I mean exactly taking care of material and spiritual well-being of the citizens of the Russian Empire. Imagine, one sixth of the world, from Poland (was part of the Russian Empire) to Kamchatka! A territory so rich with natural resources as forest products (wood, pine nuts, tar, sap, mushrooms), animals in the forests, rivers overstuffed with fish, natural gas, oil, gold, silver, nickel, iron, copper, rare earth minerals, etc. Almost only a very small percentage of the territory in Siberia was used. It was basically like untouched land since the Ice Age. Very few people living there, mostly along the rivers and in isolated places. It was such a pure land, and a vast land, the development of which could have been done wisely and ecologically, without harming the environment or depleting resources. However this land was unused during the Tsarist regime. And even Kamchatka, which is much closer to Tokyo than to Moscow, was under control of the Russian Empire. It is understandable that Japanese would be envious, living on such overpopulated crowded islands, when there is an entire open continent right next door.</p><p></p><p>And on the other hand in the western parts of the Russian Empire, in Ukraine, Belarus, and Poland, overpopulated territories with many landless peasants, unhappy and angry peasants. The Russian Prime Mister, Piotr Stolypin, had a plan to move all these people into the eastern part of the Russian Empire, Kazakhstan, Siberia, and the Pacific coast, both settling these territories, and deflating the tensions in the western parts of the Empire. However he was killed under mysterious circumstances, which could have easily been prevented by the Tsar, and his plan wasn't implemented. As a result these angry peasants foolishly supported the Communist coup, and it was all over for the Tsarist regime.</p><p></p><p>I think that the Russian Empire was the aggressor in this war, and it was all caused by the pride and stupidity of the Russian government. You would think that with all this practicaly undeveloped territory they would have to devote lots of time and efforts, and resources for developing these territories. But no, they chose to go to war instead. Why? To gain more territories. Well, what are you going to do with these new territories if you haven't even developed those territories that you already have?</p><p></p><p>Some wars and military operations can be justified. For Japan, it is understandable, they needed more territories to take pressure off their overpopulated islands, and they needed the natural resources of Korea and Manchuria to help their industries. But for the Russian Empire there was no good reason, no wise reason, why they should have fought in that war. Especially it was even counterproductive because then the Russian Empire would have turned against itself the Japanese Empire, but also the United States and Great Britain, who were supporting Japan. And also the Russian Empire also would have turned the Chinese against itself! Even if the Qing Dynasty was too weak to defeat the Russian army, there would have been Chinese guerilla fighters such as the Society of Righteous Fists and other ones, which would have been a nasty occupation period for the Russian army in Manchuria, even if they would have been successful in the Russian-Japanese war.</p><p></p><p>It is my philosophical theory that there are certain paths of development for certain societies, that are written by God. And if a society goes off the script, to do not what is in it's mission or it's destiny by God, then that society gets punished, not by supernatural means though, but by logical ones. If you attempt to walk on the ceiling, you will learn what is gravity the hard way. Similar principles also are applied to individuals, if we walk on our own correct path, we get some kind of benefits, or if we attempt to stray from it, we eventually get into trouble. Unfortunately if the monarch does not understand such fundamental principles, and does not want to listen to others, then it is bad news for everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stoyan, post: 1592024, member: 24958"] I've always thought that the Russian-Japanese war was very unnecessary, and it actually indirectly led to the collapse of the Russian Empire, and the Communist coup. In my opinion, no event in modern history changed the world more than the revolution of 1917. And yet it was caused by the Russian-Japanese war. The Communist coup actually should have occurred earlier in history. In 1905 was the first Russian Revolution, but it was suppressed by the Tsarist government. However they could not stop 1917 from happening. Before Nikolai II Romanov became the Tsar, he took a trip to Japan with his cousin, George the Prince of Greece. While there, he visited some Buddhist monastery. One of the priests there gave him a prophecy: if you will go to war with Japan, your country will be destroyed and you will be killed together with your family. I don't know if he heeded the prophecy or not, but apparently God decided that the heir to the Russian throne didn't learn what he needed to learn, so another event occurred. While Nikolai was walking with George through the streets of Tokyo, a samurai had crept behind him, and tried to hit Nikolai onto the head with his katana. However George had a quick reaction, and he deflected the sword with his cane. It seems obvious to anyone that these two signs give you a very serious and obvious message: Do not go to war with Japan! Also there is evidence that Russian Orthodox priests gave Nikolai a similar prophecy. I agree with St. Nicholas of Japan, the Russian-Japanese war was completely unnecessary. Before the war, Russia had everything that it needed to build a prosperous empire. At that time, the quantity of territory was established, now the time was to increate the quality. I mean exactly taking care of material and spiritual well-being of the citizens of the Russian Empire. Imagine, one sixth of the world, from Poland (was part of the Russian Empire) to Kamchatka! A territory so rich with natural resources as forest products (wood, pine nuts, tar, sap, mushrooms), animals in the forests, rivers overstuffed with fish, natural gas, oil, gold, silver, nickel, iron, copper, rare earth minerals, etc. Almost only a very small percentage of the territory in Siberia was used. It was basically like untouched land since the Ice Age. Very few people living there, mostly along the rivers and in isolated places. It was such a pure land, and a vast land, the development of which could have been done wisely and ecologically, without harming the environment or depleting resources. However this land was unused during the Tsarist regime. And even Kamchatka, which is much closer to Tokyo than to Moscow, was under control of the Russian Empire. It is understandable that Japanese would be envious, living on such overpopulated crowded islands, when there is an entire open continent right next door. And on the other hand in the western parts of the Russian Empire, in Ukraine, Belarus, and Poland, overpopulated territories with many landless peasants, unhappy and angry peasants. The Russian Prime Mister, Piotr Stolypin, had a plan to move all these people into the eastern part of the Russian Empire, Kazakhstan, Siberia, and the Pacific coast, both settling these territories, and deflating the tensions in the western parts of the Empire. However he was killed under mysterious circumstances, which could have easily been prevented by the Tsar, and his plan wasn't implemented. As a result these angry peasants foolishly supported the Communist coup, and it was all over for the Tsarist regime. I think that the Russian Empire was the aggressor in this war, and it was all caused by the pride and stupidity of the Russian government. You would think that with all this practicaly undeveloped territory they would have to devote lots of time and efforts, and resources for developing these territories. But no, they chose to go to war instead. Why? To gain more territories. Well, what are you going to do with these new territories if you haven't even developed those territories that you already have? Some wars and military operations can be justified. For Japan, it is understandable, they needed more territories to take pressure off their overpopulated islands, and they needed the natural resources of Korea and Manchuria to help their industries. But for the Russian Empire there was no good reason, no wise reason, why they should have fought in that war. Especially it was even counterproductive because then the Russian Empire would have turned against itself the Japanese Empire, but also the United States and Great Britain, who were supporting Japan. And also the Russian Empire also would have turned the Chinese against itself! Even if the Qing Dynasty was too weak to defeat the Russian army, there would have been Chinese guerilla fighters such as the Society of Righteous Fists and other ones, which would have been a nasty occupation period for the Russian army in Manchuria, even if they would have been successful in the Russian-Japanese war. It is my philosophical theory that there are certain paths of development for certain societies, that are written by God. And if a society goes off the script, to do not what is in it's mission or it's destiny by God, then that society gets punished, not by supernatural means though, but by logical ones. If you attempt to walk on the ceiling, you will learn what is gravity the hard way. Similar principles also are applied to individuals, if we walk on our own correct path, we get some kind of benefits, or if we attempt to stray from it, we eventually get into trouble. Unfortunately if the monarch does not understand such fundamental principles, and does not want to listen to others, then it is bad news for everyone. [/QUOTE]
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