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<blockquote data-quote="Eusebius Erasmus" data-source="post: 1592123" data-attributes="member: 20940">I don’t mean to dishonour or discredit your military service, and I apologize for offending you. I do not mean to suggest that soldiers are condemned: we have examples of soldiers-martyrs like Holy Theodore the Tyro after all. (I also think there is an aspect here of “laying down one’s life for a friend.”) My purpose is simply to put forth the Orthodox position on this. If violence is to be undertaken, it should be as a last resort, and is never condoned as good. It is a well known tradition that Orthodox soldiers returning from war had to do penance. My experience in these matters has no bearing on these facts. From these premises I fail to see how the American Revolution was good. Soldiers fought and died… for what? For freedom from unjust taxation and quartering? These problems are worse now that the United States is ‘independent.’&nbsp; Forgive me if I speak out of turn.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eusebius Erasmus, post: 1592123, member: 20940"] I don’t mean to dishonour or discredit your military service, and I apologize for offending you. I do not mean to suggest that soldiers are condemned: we have examples of soldiers-martyrs like Holy Theodore the Tyro after all. (I also think there is an aspect here of “laying down one’s life for a friend.”) My purpose is simply to put forth the Orthodox position on this. If violence is to be undertaken, it should be as a last resort, and is never condoned as good. It is a well known tradition that Orthodox soldiers returning from war had to do penance. My experience in these matters has no bearing on these facts. From these premises I fail to see how the American Revolution was good. Soldiers fought and died… for what? For freedom from unjust taxation and quartering? These problems are worse now that the United States is ‘independent.’ Forgive me if I speak out of turn. [/QUOTE]

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