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<blockquote data-quote="Aboulia" data-source="post: 1592155" data-attributes="member: 16697"><p>I would tend to agree, murder is a sin, but murder is applied <strong>inside</strong> society, you're transgressing the bounds of acceptable relations to each person <strong>within your society, </strong>killing isn't the same outwards as it is in war, as war is competition between groups whether just or unjust, those more conscientious Christians may opt for doing support roles during war, but since you're reaping the benefits of society, you must also have some sense of duty to fight for it, as flawed as it may be. To be ungrateful, is unchristian.</p><p></p><p>The danger that I see, and it is quite right for the Americans to get up in arms over this, is the denigrating of history, yes, men were flawed, as all men are, even saints are generally canonized long after their death for this reason, it lets those with personal issues die out. But to undermine the history of a nation and expose those flaws has a danger of destroying the unity of a nation, This is why Ham is cursed after exposing his father's nakedness. Keep in mind your own sins while criticizing others. If the Founding Fathers fell into the ideological currents of the times, who among you has refrained from legitimizing the propaganda pandemic in one way or another, whether it be in wearing a mask,</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, a constitution is good in a sense, but it's also bad in a sense, it's good when tyrants oppress you, you have something to fall back on, but it's bad in a sense that if you have to write down the laws of unspoken conduct between people, then you've already lost the understanding of how people in society should act towards one another. </p><p></p><p>Now whether it provided people more rights or not is up for debate, for it's until you disagree with the other side, as the South did at one point.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As always, the reasons for things are more important than the action. Reason being, that <strong>after a war, </strong>soldiers must be rehabilitated into society, so that they aren't treating fellow citizens as they would combatants, as you can't turn from a quick thinking/acting combat mentality to a slow to anger, gentle mentality by flipping a lightswitch.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aboulia, post: 1592155, member: 16697"] I would tend to agree, murder is a sin, but murder is applied [B]inside[/B] society, you're transgressing the bounds of acceptable relations to each person [B]within your society, [/B]killing isn't the same outwards as it is in war, as war is competition between groups whether just or unjust, those more conscientious Christians may opt for doing support roles during war, but since you're reaping the benefits of society, you must also have some sense of duty to fight for it, as flawed as it may be. To be ungrateful, is unchristian. The danger that I see, and it is quite right for the Americans to get up in arms over this, is the denigrating of history, yes, men were flawed, as all men are, even saints are generally canonized long after their death for this reason, it lets those with personal issues die out. But to undermine the history of a nation and expose those flaws has a danger of destroying the unity of a nation, This is why Ham is cursed after exposing his father's nakedness. Keep in mind your own sins while criticizing others. If the Founding Fathers fell into the ideological currents of the times, who among you has refrained from legitimizing the propaganda pandemic in one way or another, whether it be in wearing a mask, Yes, a constitution is good in a sense, but it's also bad in a sense, it's good when tyrants oppress you, you have something to fall back on, but it's bad in a sense that if you have to write down the laws of unspoken conduct between people, then you've already lost the understanding of how people in society should act towards one another. Now whether it provided people more rights or not is up for debate, for it's until you disagree with the other side, as the South did at one point. As always, the reasons for things are more important than the action. Reason being, that [B]after a war, [/B]soldiers must be rehabilitated into society, so that they aren't treating fellow citizens as they would combatants, as you can't turn from a quick thinking/acting combat mentality to a slow to anger, gentle mentality by flipping a lightswitch. [/QUOTE]
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