Pride much?
Orthodoxy And The Religion Of The Future
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This thread is about Fr. Seraphim and his book. This is a last warning to take Orthodoxy vs Protestant issues into the existing thread.
If your warning is directed to me, I'd like to point out that I made no criticism of Orthodoxy. My post pointed out how the congregation that I attended implements some elements of Orthodoxy.
I was challenged by someone who stated that no one who is serious about theology can refer to themselves as Protestant.
I've been reading and studying. But I'm not sure where the Orthodox Church is as regards Protestanism.
Is it Protestant or not?
Serious question-- not intended to stir up a controversy. I'd like to know.
It seems to me that the Orthodox Church was "protesting" something which caused the split from Roman Catholicism on July 16, 1054.
I'm seriously interested in your take on the matter, Roosh.
I was challenged by someone who stated that no one who is serious about theology can refer to themselves as Protestant.
I've been reading and studying. But I'm not sure where the Orthodox Church is as regards Protestanism.
Is it Protestant or not?
Serious question-- not intended to stir up a controversy. I'd like to know.
It seems to me that the Orthodox Church was "protesting" something which caused the split from Roman Catholicism on July 16, 1054.
I'm seriously interested in your take on the matter, Roosh.
Check out Fr. Josiah Trenham's book Rock And Sand, an in-depth treatment of this exact subject from somebody who grew up Reformed and was educated by the best before becoming Orthodox.
My response to the other guy has been carried over, per Roosh's request, to the other thread.
The Orthodox Church did not split from Rome. Rome split from the Orthodox Church.
That's such an asinine statement.I'm a devout Protestant and I have excellent grasp of theology.I believe in once saved always saved because God said that once you have accepted salvation through Christ he will not let you go.I know about the Scofield/Darby con and I certainly don't believe the atheist Christ killing Jews are the chosen people.Those who accept Christ are the chosen people.I don't believe in the whole left behind con either,Christians will be here with the rest during the tribulation.I do believe suffering brings us closer to God but much like the Catholic"good works get you to heaven"I don't believe that somehow suffering in and of itself has anything to do with salvation.I really gain alot from what I read here and I don't feel the need to disparage so why do you insult Protestants such as myself?Martin Luther got things right and I trust that great man of God.I'll stay Protestant and know my thinking is correct Mountaineer.Where in heaven will arrogant dividers like you fit in?Sounds like you fall for the Jewish lies about us that have derailed many a Christian.Just because the current Jewish controlled rabble like Hagee preach lies and many believe them does not diminish what Protestants have been and still are.We are in the end times and the elect are fooled not just in Protestant churches but in all Christian churches.I certainly hope everyone else here is not so arrogant and dismissive and wrong as you.I've never found Roosh to treat fellow Christians in this way,he has always been upright and respectful of all following Christ,perhaps you could learn from him.
None of Christianity’s greatest theologians would ever have dared utter the sentence “I have [an] excellent grasp of theology” out of fear that they were deep in prelest (or spiritual delusion) and that grace would be withdrawn from them on account of their arrogance. Perhaps there is good reason they promoted humility instead.
This. I think most Orthodox christians I encounter online are recommending Fr. Seraphim's books. Then why are most of his books out of print? I belive demand is enough for a reprint. Of course you can easily grab E-book version but I think the physical paper book is more adequate for serious books. I hope "Orthodoxy and Religion of the Future" and his biography will be reprinted soon.
Great review btw. Seeing God gave San Fransico Blessed Fr. Seraphim Rose and Saint John Maximovich gives me hope that He would give South Korea a holy man oneday.
Father Seraphim Rose’s name comes up a lot when I talk to Orthodox adherents. What is unique about his writing that draws people in so well?
He had a good grasp on the spirit of the times, things such as modernism and finding the satanic roots of Enlightenment ideas and and how they evolved into the French revolution and communism. He describes many things we innately are aware of, or half aware of, being on the redpilled side of things and makes everything click. He ties evolution, nihilism, communism, and atheism together. He had fallen for some of these modernist deceptions before his conversion which allowed him to understand how evil these things can be and led to his zealous repentance - in this way he is quite similar to Saint Augustine.
He was also persuasive in person. He once gave two lectures to California college students, and just from those two lectures among those who listened, many converted to Orthodoxy and several became monks, deacons, priests, and I think even at least bishop. These lectures were published in the short volume "God's Revelation to the Human Heart."
https://ibb.co/TW63Hn5
I have some tapes from St Hermans Monastery that I’ll be recording soon God willing, I received them from someone at my parish, I will share links to them in the general Orthodox forum when I’ve ripped them
I have some tapes from St Hermans Monastery that I’ll be recording soon God willing, I received them from someone at my parish, I will share links to them in the general Orthodox forum when I’ve ripped them
Thanks for the review Roosh, Orthodoxy and the Religion of the Future is certainly one of the better reads out there.
Not sure how things work in South Korea, but in the States and in most countries you can buy the ebook and use a software tool to remove the restrictions on printing, as long as you don't distribute it. Sure, it's not ideal, but it beats reading on a screen.
Just reading E. Michael Jones Libido Dominandi, Sexual Liberation and Political Control and was both fascinated and appalled to note that after Vatican 2 many monasteries and convents were subverted and destroyed by the introduction of so called "encounter groups" where the participants were encouraged to open up to each other and have "spiritual experiences" - ties in with what Roosh is talking about here and Fr Seraphim Rose. Would like to read this, I have already read Nihilism, which was excellent.
It is written Pope Paul VI declared himself pentecostal after meeting with a "charismatic delegation."
It seems, from written documents, ROCOR has stayed true to the faith while these "ecumenical movements" attracted other Christian denominations to replace Jesus Christ with this "spiritual experience."
Ok, from email exchange I just had with a priestmonk I know, because homoeopathy is not even evidence based and is also illogical, it contradicts Orthodox Christian thought. For more on its lack of evidence and its illogicality, see here:
https://www.cmf.org.uk/resources/publications/content/?context=article&id=334
Now, from an Orthodox Christian spiritual perspective, we could only believe that the greatest treatment for both body and soul is Christ and the Church.
From an Orthodox Christian physical/scientific perspective, medicine, being subject to the laws of physics, must be evidence based and logical.
Anything, then, which does not profess Christ/the Church or evidence and logic, is neither truly spiritual or scientific/medical, and must therefore be crazy or occultic. Whatever the case, it can not be anything good. And this is only reinforced by the fact that it was a Freemason who came up with homoeopathy in the first place.
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I appreciate you writing this Roosh. Another great article. You probably get this a lot, but your writing has improved 10 fold over the old RoK days. I look forward to your next article.
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