Orthodoxy And The Religion Of The Future

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Elicola

 
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Roosh said:
The Orthodox view on yoga is that it's demonic:
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Hidden Fire: Orthodox Perspectives on Yoga. Joseph Magnus Frangipani

The postures of yoga are not religiously neutral. All of the classic asanas have spiritual significance. For example, as one journalist reports, the Sun Salutations, - perhaps the best-known series of asanas, or postures, of hatha yoga - the type most commonly practiced in America - is literally...
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Yoga has always been marketed in a seductive and sacrilegious manner.

The article says that stretching and Pilates conditioning for balance and coordination are acceptable. My criticism of "gym yoga" is that instructors try to exert pseudo-scientific spiritual authority when they lack basic medical and scriptural knowledge.

Would you want your wife to attend a class taught by this snake?

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Ah_Tibor

Ah_Tibor

Pelican
Woman
Orthodox
Elicola said:
Yes, "Christian Yoga" is an oxymoron, akin to "Christian Hinduism," where spoiled American housewives spout Sanskrit.

What's next, "Protestant Pole Dancing," "Jewish Jui-jitsu," "Hindu Hula Hooping," or "Islamic Ice Skating"?
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I would totally watch the last three hahaha
 
paternos

paternos

Robin
Catholic
Thanks Roosh for writing this.

I relate strongly to your observations, end of my 20s I was captivated by Buddhism, spent quite some time in a monastery even.

After some time I got very nervous, which I couldn't really explain at the moment.

Roosh said:
the point of life is to “enjoy” it in the here and now
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I wasn't able to enjoy it anymore, sitting and breathing and I felt I went wrong but couldn't fix it. How I see it now is that the nihilism sucked the life out of me. I felt good in away, 1 meal a day, calm, no screens, no internet.

When the newness of the experience wore off. The monastery, the experience, the buddhist monks, the discontent grew.

Philosophically the wheel of Dukkha was the most discussed symbol. Trying to break the cycle of suffering.

Duḥkha - Wikipedia

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It is opposed to the word sukha, meaning "happiness," "comfort" or "ease."

And this concept took hold in me in the years after. Dukkha bad, Sukha good.

Then I ran into health problems, constant pain, unsolvable and the collapse set it. How to find Sukha, when you get pain?

Roosh said:
My pride loved the notion of reaching existential “enlightenment” through my own works without having to submit my will or ego to a higher power.
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So I tried to fix the pain with the means available obsession, sex, eating.

If the outlook is, life is about comfort, happiness and ease. We are in a big problem.

Then a loved one passed away and got buried from the Catholic church. I expected endless pain and sorrow as the modernists taught me, but God gave me community, family, love and kindness.

Then my journey to Christianity began. I now see that God meets me in the soil. When I'm broken. Not faking brokenness. Broken. Humble. Not as an act, but broken to humbleness. In pain. Suffering is of great importance. Not as a goal. But joy grows in suffering. It's such a paradox to my original way of thinking and living life.

To give an example I have a friend who is getting in the tantra, ayahuasca, yoga, psychology, alternative therapy scene and seeing him scares me now. In a certain way he seems happy, acting light and he seems to feel more happy most if the time. But I find it impossible to relate to him nowadays.

He told he has panic attacks at night sometimes, but his psychologist told him not to talk about it. Knowing this just makes me feel so sad for him.

Roosh said:
This is why the rapture doctrine is so dangerous
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It's weird and it scares me. Modernism, starting in the enlightenment thinks it can remove the pain of life. No more racism, everybody equal, everyone happy.

Roosh said:
It appeals to those who fail to see the need for spiritual labor.
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I think modernism, enlightenment is an amputation of life. It misses half of it. Denying sorrow, pain, brokenness, darkness. Is there light when there is no darkness. Can flowers grow in the air? Without the dark soil full of worms and decaying plants?



Nowadays I can cry again, feel softness, weakness in the light of God, power in the soil.

Ordered the book! Thanks man
 
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Liviu

Robin
Orthodox
Trewolla said:
What I don’t understand with those who believe in “once-saved-always-saved” is how they reconcile the completeness and finality of their mission before God with the fact that they are still alive.

So no one who is alive is saved?
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No one who is alive is ALREADY saved. Salvation is a process and a personal striving and its finality remains a mistery and can`t be guaranteed before leaving this world despite the fact that the workers in the field of faith are usually closer by every year (hard to be by every day because there are many up`s and down`s in any human life) to own salvation. This is the Christian-orthodox belief.
 
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Robin
Orthodox
EndlessGravity said:
What I can't understand is how Orthodox work around Ephesians 2:8. It appears to be very works-centered and legalistic from the outside, not to mention ignoring that we are saved now, not at some future date.

Edit: I suspect both traditions are talking past each other because they misunderstand what "faith" actually is.
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Just for everyone knowledge

Ephesians 2:8

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Define grace and define faith. A faith merely knowing but without facts have the demons. It is said `they believe and tremble`. Is that the faith the apostle talks about ?

As Darius, the initiator of this forum said: If we are saved now , why are we still here ?

Let`s remember. Protestantism appeared as a reaction at the exagerations and errors made by Catholic church which was no more One True Church at the beginning of XVIth century.The motto of protestantism is `sola scriptura`. Was said that if Luther would have known Orthodoxy wouldn`t have made the reformation.

Let`s remember that before Gospels were writen Holy Gospel was only preached. The first Holy Gospel (Matthew if I remember well) was written in 44 -45 AD. So we have about a decade or more of Christian faith without the most important scriptures.

Actualy , Holy Scripture is a fruit in the tree of Holy Tradition. And Tradition was formed within Church.

So first was Church or New Israel, second was Tradition and third Scripture.

As in old times, first was Old Israel, Second was Old Tradition, third was Old Scripture.
 
GreatIrishElk

GreatIrishElk

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
(Bumping this thread)

If you have not read this book, please make an effort.

“To the very end of this age there shall not be lacking Prophets of the Lord God, as also servants of satan. But in the last times those who truly will serve God will succeed in hiding themselves from men and will not perform in their midst signs and wonders as at the present time, but they will travel by a path of activity intermixed with humility, and in the Kingdom of Heaven they will be greater than the Fathers who have been glorified by signs. For at that time no one will perform before the eyes of men miracles which would inflame men and inspire them to strive with zeal for ascetic labors.... Many, being possessed by ignorance, will fall into the abyss, going astray in the breadth of the broad and spacious path.
—Prophecy of St. Niphon of Constantia, Cyprus”
 
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